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Former Obama Official’s Paycheck Fairness Talking Points Demolished in CNN Brawl
Mediaite ^ | 4/8/2014 | Noah Rothman

Posted on 04/08/2014 3:28:53 PM PDT by markomalley

Anita Dunn, a veteran Democratic operative and a former White House communications director in Barack Obama‘s administration, did not perform all that well when tasked with defending the president’s election year push for a variety of remedies to the issue equal pay for women. To the extent that this an issue at all, which Dunn failed to prove, she also was unable to demonstrate that the White House’s proposed solutions would even address the issue without creating new, far more tangible problems for employers and employees alike in the process.

After CNN host Jake Tapper noted that it is already illegal under the National Labor Relations Act to punish one employee for disclosing what they make to another employee, Dunn sidestepped the issue by saying that it was nevertheless difficult to have those conversations with co-workers. She did not, however, outline how a presidential order would address the perennial problem of awkward conversations.

Not only did Dunn burst out of the gate by failing to comprehensively address Tapper’s question, she undermined the White House’s effort to create hostility between employer and employee when she said that compensation disparity most likely occurs without the employer even being aware of it.

“Most contractors are probably not even aware if they have these disparities,” Dunn said. “And after you control for seniority and after you control for performance, and all the other things that go into pay, if you still have a disparity you want to ask yourself, ‘Why is it?’”

Tapper noted that a recent study revealed that the White House, too, does not pay women on average as much as men. The Heritage Foundation’s The Foundry senior contributor, Genevieve Wood, observed that the White House’s defense is the same as the private sector’s — that the calculation which asserts that women make 77 cents for every dollar men make is flawed.

Wood added that this kind of flawed calculation might discourage young women from entering the workforce or asking their employer for the salary they deserve. “We ought to be celebrating where women are, not telling them that they’re down where they shouldn’t be,” Wood said.

Dunn made a vital counterpoint here, noting that Wood was correct about young women but incorrect about women of child-rearing age and older. But after this moment, the wheels fell off.

“In the private sector, you’re still going to have — you’re going to have more men at senior levels,” Dunn asserted. “If you look at corporate boards, for example, women are still only 17 percent of corporate boards.”

Wood noted that Dunn had diverged entirely from the subject at hand by shifting from equal pay to complete equality of employment along gender lines, and shifted the conversation back to equal pay. Wood then asserted, based on a Department of Labor study, equal pay already exists.

“According to the department of labor who did the study in 2009, if you compare job to job, experience to experience and you break the same experience to the table, they are making the same,” Wood said.

Finally, Wood and Dunn engaged in a rhetorical brawl over the need for the proposed Paycheck Fairness Act. Wood said that this legislation encourages employees, men and women, to sue their employers and discourages employers from giving raises or bonuses based on performance.

To counter this valid point, Dunn fired the last salvo in her arsenal. She began by accusing Wood of deviating from the issue at hand, a tactic that Dunn had, in fact, resorted to on multiple occasions throughout the interview. Finally, Dunn whimsically insisted that the Paycheck Fairness Act is nothing more than a toothless, unenforceable guideline designed encourage employers to not discriminate against women. Wood, admirably, did not let this misleading assertion stand.

Wood’s performance was forceful, and she routinely interrupted Dunn — a level of assertiveness for which the former White House official seemed unprepared. Furthermore, Wood’s command of the data surrounding employee compensation rates was strong but not reflective of years of research on the subject. Even so, Dunn was unable to counter most of her assertions. That could be due to the fact that her arguments are simply not that convincing.

When faced with even a cursory counterargument, the administration’s effort to reanimate the War on Women crumbles. In the absence of a Todd Akin-like figure to make their arguments for them, it is possible that the White House is simply ill-suited to mount a convincing claim that such a war even exists.

Watch the exchange below, via CNN:


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anitadunn; cnn; genevievewood; heritagefoundation; jaketapper
video at link
1 posted on 04/08/2014 3:28:53 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Don’t put all the blame on Obama. He’s just reading what Jarrett and Axelrod put in front of him. Its what he was hired to do.


2 posted on 04/08/2014 3:45:18 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: markomalley

It’s suddenly a full court press this week. I saw that Valerie Jarrett was going to be on CNBC telling the same old lies just before I walked out the door this morning.


3 posted on 04/08/2014 3:46:21 PM PDT by jiggyboy
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To: markomalley

The ‘77 Cents on the Dollar’ Myth About Women’s Pay

Once education, marital status and occupations are considered, the ‘gender wage gap’ all but disappears.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303532704579483752909957472#printMode


4 posted on 04/08/2014 3:48:08 PM PDT by jiggyboy
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To: markomalley
There is no pay "gap." When education, experience and risk are normed, women are paid the same as men.

Think about it. If women really were 30% cheaper than men, wouldn't employers hire all women?

5 posted on 04/08/2014 3:49:29 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

They also don’t take into consideration time on the job, promotions, etc.

Say you have two jobs that are equal in every way. You hire one man and one woman at the same pay to start. Both get the same merit increases over 2-3 years.

Then one person leaves for another job, whether it’s the man or woman. Are these libs now saying the next hire to fill the vacant position must be on the same level as the other employee who’s been there 3 years?

If it’s the man that quit they’d say “no” but if the woman quit they’d scream “wage gap! wage gap! wage gap!” if you brought in the new female employee at the new hire wage.


6 posted on 04/08/2014 3:54:34 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I support Joe Carr in the TN GOP Primary against Lamar!)
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To: Fledermaus
A major reason women lose seniority is by taking time off with young children. That is a choice, a good one in my opinion, but nevertheless a choice.

If you drill down deep into what the Dems are saying, they want women who have less experience, less seniority and less risk to be paid the same as a man with more of all that. Plus, men work more hours than women, and they still want the same pay.

7 posted on 04/08/2014 3:58:19 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: markomalley

Dunn lost face. The Great Helmsman is not happy with his disciple.


8 posted on 04/08/2014 4:02:39 PM PDT by tumblindice (Are all Democrats inveterate, habitual liars?)
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To: markomalley

So Drug Twitch with her nervous mouth clicks and finger pops didn’t do well?
Aww, that’s too bad.
Maybe she can have more time to idolize Mao TseTung.


9 posted on 04/08/2014 4:17:51 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: markomalley; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ..
Thanks markomalley. Here's a candidate for our next Sec'y of Labor:
The Heritage Foundation’s The Foundry senior contributor, Genevieve Wood, observed that the White House’s defense is the same as the private sector’s — that the calculation which asserts that women make 77 cents for every dollar men make is flawed. Wood added that this kind of flawed calculation might discourage young women from entering the workforce or asking their employer for the salary they deserve. “We ought to be celebrating where women are, not telling them that they’re down where they shouldn’t be,” Wood said... based on a Department of Labor study, equal pay already exists. “According to the department of labor who did the study in 2009, if you compare job to job, experience to experience and you break the same experience to the table, they are making the same,” Wood said.

10 posted on 04/08/2014 4:19:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: tumblindice

> the Great Helmsman

Heh heh...


11 posted on 04/08/2014 4:19:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: markomalley

It has been illegal to discriminate in wages on the basis of sex for 50 years.

A dumbed down America and a fawning propagandized press continue to do the bidding of the Democrat masters in ginning up a crisis-de-jour.


12 posted on 04/08/2014 4:22:04 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: colorado tanker
A major reason women lose seniority is by taking time off with young children.

I can see a statute giving women who raised children extra seniority years at their job.

13 posted on 04/08/2014 6:30:23 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: markomalley

So I can save almost 25% on salaries if I hire all women, sweet.


14 posted on 04/08/2014 6:32:47 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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