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I find the obsession that everyone has to go to college personally ridiculous. It does not matter if the parents are rich or not, what matters is what you have in your brain.
1 posted on 04/06/2014 5:26:49 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
I took Thermodynamics, Heat Transfer, Differential Equations, and Fluid Mechanics when I was an undergraduate.

Today, colleges offer garbage like this:

20 Completely Ridiculous College Courses Being Offered At U.S. Universities


2 posted on 04/06/2014 5:32:14 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Kaslin

Never has been.


3 posted on 04/06/2014 5:32:18 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: Kaslin

Excellent article! Thank you for posting it.


4 posted on 04/06/2014 5:35:30 AM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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Hey Kaslin. I agree whole heartedly with your statement. I’ve known plenty of PhD’s that are absolutely brilliant but are dumber than rocks. Real world facts being attacked with doctoral thesis don’t always work. On the other hand, I’ve known folks with hardly a high school diploma able to figure out things that are beyond a lot of “highly” educated folks. Somtimes your real world experience far exceeds your “learned” ideas. :>} Then there are folks who just “get it”. Not to mention the folks who think that they MUST go in to horrendous debt to send their kids to school. Whatever happened to working your way through college? So it takes more than 4 years. Sense of pride is/can be a good thing.


5 posted on 04/06/2014 5:36:20 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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It is now for the low information voters who could care less dont do the work and will get that piece of paper anyway fr breathing and the illegals who also get it for free


6 posted on 04/06/2014 5:37:00 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Im missing a jumbo jet with 235 passengers has anyone seen it?)
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College is education. College is for the intellectually capable.

Those who lack the intellect drop out.

There are some like Anita Hill and Michelle Obama and basketball players who are continually lifted up beyond their intellect but they are few.


7 posted on 04/06/2014 5:37:22 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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If you want to see a room full of white middle aged divorced liberal teachers give a collective gasp of disbelief...
Just repeat the title in that room.

Yeah, that’s what happens.

BLASPHEMY! RACISM!


9 posted on 04/06/2014 5:41:04 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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I agree with you.

I was at a neighbors grad party a couple of years ago. All of the graduates were strutting around telling everyone what private schools they were going to. One kid sheepishly told all of the Dad’s he was going to automotive mechanic school. We all, to a person, told him he was the smartest of the bunch.

Two years later, he is working full time and making close to $60,000 a year. His goal is to take over a local garage.

He has no debt.

The kid is a genius. And he is happy.


10 posted on 04/06/2014 5:43:43 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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Community colleges have been turned by the educational establishment into liberal arts college prep schools instead of centers of training for technical and administrative jobs for those not desiring a four year liberal arts degree.

A nearby community college had a nationally renowned 2 year woodworking program turning out skilled cabinet makers, furniture makers, and trim carpenters. A new college president came to the school and made an arbitrary decision to close the program because the furniture industry was going offshore so there would in the future be no need for this training. The school shut down the program, sold off equipment, sent the skilled instructors packing and reallocated the funding to liberal arts education. The school ignored the fact that very few graduates were going to work in furniture and cabinet factories. In fact most would get a few years of experience, start their own businesses, and become successful small businessmen in the region. The program was dropped despite strong opposition from graduates and the community.

Within the past week I met with an entrepreneur who started an HVAC company that today employs 43 people. He lamented the fact he could not find enough skilled young people to hire as installers and repair technicians. The local technical schools and community colleges are not supplying enough skilled graduates to bring into the business as trainees.

There is a high demand in the market for skilled tradesmen who can work with their hands and their mind. It is a shame the education system fails high school graduates who would benefit from learning a trade. Reallocating some of the billions wasted on higher education toward technical education would benefit small business, millions of unemployable young people, and boost the economy.

Unfortunately the elites who run the education industry look down at people who work the hands and their minds.


14 posted on 04/06/2014 5:45:37 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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Progressives permit only certain opinions in university as witness to this
19 posted on 04/06/2014 5:56:40 AM PDT by wtd
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“We know it’s harder to find a job today without some higher education,” President Obama said in December 2013, “so we’ve helped more students go to college with grants and loans that go farther than before. We’ve made it more practical to repay those loans. And today, more students are graduating from college than ever before.”

I can see at least one lie in this paragraph. Maybe three.

For the life of me I can't understand how college has become so expensive. If congress wants to investigate something investigate this.

Poor kids who do go to college have such a financial burden to start off their life it's depressing.

22 posted on 04/06/2014 6:02:37 AM PDT by McGruff (prop.a.gan.da - information of a biased or misleading nature)
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I think that nationally the level of high school teaching has declined to the point where “Community College” is now 2 years of the old senior year in high school.

I employ a couple very bright young people. One of them wrote a list of the things he didn’t learn in high school that I had to teach him - things that were part of my high school (graduated in 1969 and I did NOT go to college).

Here is a partial list:

- How and why to vote. Used to be called Civics.
- How to use banking (checks, savings, etc). Used to be called Home economics or something similar.
- PRACTICAL math. This was the course that the “vo-tech” kids took and taught how to use math every day.
- A simple, general shop class. How things work like your kitchen sink, toilet, your car and the like. When I was in school EVERYONE took a shop or home economics course.
- A basic human biology course. He learned all about sex but learned nothing about kidneys, livers, gall bladders, etc.

The list goes on to include about 30 things.

So high school is now geared toward teaching just enough so a kid can get into college, but not enough so upon graduation a kid can function in the working world.


24 posted on 04/06/2014 6:04:15 AM PDT by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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My father went to College and graduated from the University of Michigan with a Engineering degree in 1949. He went on to work for GE, Whirlpool, and Emerson Electric. He invented most of the safety technology our world uses today.

I went to Ohio State with a business degree with computer courses in 1989. My wife went to Miami of Ohio with a business degree. We have two sons that are going to be college graduates. The only reason they went is they knew in their Junior year of Highschool what they would graduate in. One is a Bio-Medical engineer who graduates this year and the other one enters college as a Chemistry major 2018 class.

Not all should have children, college, marriage or house. The pursuit of happiness is a personal thing. God gave us all gifts and how you choose to use them is what makes humanity different and makes his plan perfect.
33 posted on 04/06/2014 6:22:14 AM PDT by Baseballguy (pharaphase (If someone does not believe in heaven or hell - they should not care where they go))
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A good percentage of college graduates today, maybe even a majority, would have been better off learning a skill or trade instead of attending college.

When they do graduate, many have inflated expectations but almost no marketable skills.

They can’t fix a plumbing leak or change the oil in their car themselves, and thanks to a near useless college degree, they can’t earn the money to pay a plumber or mechanic to do it for them.


37 posted on 04/06/2014 6:30:35 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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The Census Bureau’s 2011 survey found that the median bachelor’s degree recipient will earn 85% more over the course of their careers than the median high school graduate. Associate’s degree holders will earn 38% more. These figures vary by course of study - engineers benefit from the greatest wage premium, while those who studied humanities or other liberal arts benefit the least - but the benefits are nonetheless there.

Correlation is not always causation. It could be that those who did earn degrees would have earned more over their lifetimes even without the degree. It could be IQ and motivation that is responsible for the financial success, not the college degree.

For instance, if the engineering student hadn't gone to college, perhaps he would have started his own business in a technical field that could be mastered with self study or apprenticeships.

39 posted on 04/06/2014 6:35:52 AM PDT by wintertime
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The solution to this is at the state level, since universities receive the majority of their money from the state.

First, recognize the axiom that the *reason* that states subsidize higher education is so that their citizens can get better paying jobs than with just a high school education.

Then compile a list of majors offered by the university, compared to how many of their graduates in those majors get employment in that area of study within six months of graduation.

At the top of the list of majors, you will see Nursing, Education, and Criminal Justice, as getting the most jobs for the most graduates. At the bottom you will see ethnic and gender studies and many other joke majors that get no one hired, ever.

After this, only two questions remain:

1) Should the state discontinue funding for these worthless majors?

2) Should the state prohibit students from impoverishing themselves by using students loans to take these majors?

Loan slaves do not improve society, which is why in most states loan sharking is outlawed. So why not outlaw loans that impoverish students yet do not provide them with fair “consideration” (a business law term)? States have “lemon laws”, so why not “lemon degree” laws?


41 posted on 04/06/2014 6:38:05 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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Schooling is not synonymous with education. The two are often opposed.

Anyone can learn marketable skills if they want to, or are incentivized to.

The most important function of formal schooling is to teach people how to communicate and think. Grammar and logic. With those two skills, children have the ability to learn and seek truth.

47 posted on 04/06/2014 7:00:10 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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“College Isn’t For Everyone”

What college isn’t is a substitute for competence and an old fashioned work ethic. Intelligence can be a handicap if a person views their IQ as a substitute for hard work and loyalty. I have been blessed/cursed with bright children and teaching this lesson is a full time job.


49 posted on 04/06/2014 7:24:25 AM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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bflr


56 posted on 04/06/2014 8:31:18 AM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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Bfl


57 posted on 04/06/2014 8:31:57 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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