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Fort Hood gunman sought mental health treatment
The Boston Globe ^ | 04-03-2014 | Will Weissert

Posted on 04/03/2014 3:59:39 AM PDT by PaulCruz2016

FORT HOOD, Texas (AP) — An Iraq War veteran being treated for mental illness was the gunman who opened fire at Fort Hood, killing three people and wounding 16 others before committing suicide, in an attack on the same Texas military base where more than a dozen people were slain in 2009, authorities said.

Within hours of the Wednesday attack, investigators started looking into whether the man’s combat experience had caused lingering psychological trauma. Fort Hood’s senior officer, Lt. Gen. Mark Milley, said the gunman had sought help for depression, anxiety and other problems.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: forthood; fthood; ivanlopez; mentalhealth; mentalillness; shooting

1 posted on 04/03/2014 3:59:39 AM PDT by PaulCruz2016
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To: PaulCruz2016
"Within hours of the Wednesday attack, investigators started looking into ... "

"Hadjer' coffee yet, Fred? ... OK .. back in a sec ... just gather up our stuff n' we'll take off when I get back .... cream n' sugar, right ?"

2 posted on 04/03/2014 4:22:25 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: knarf
“Work place violence” or “jihad by terrorist”?
3 posted on 04/03/2014 4:35:03 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: PaulCruz2016

All this is just plannd by Odumbo. Take away the rights for guns and deal with the mentally ill. America will become much smaller.

So the guy has ptsd, just another psychological babble story. Right, he was nuts too.


4 posted on 04/03/2014 4:44:53 AM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: hondact200

“All this is just plannd by Odumbo”

Unrest in another part of the world:

Syria/Ukraine.

Disaster of 0-care:

September-October Launch/Dismal sign up numbers, no data on who actually paid. Disaster.

Attack on a military installation:

Aaron Alexis/Ivan Lopez.

Somehow this all seems familiar. Makes me wonder what was happening during the first Fort Hood incident.


5 posted on 04/03/2014 4:52:19 AM PDT by Antihero101607
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To: PaulCruz2016

key word: sought?


6 posted on 04/03/2014 5:03:41 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: PaulCruz2016

This would never happen if military members were permitted to carry concealed weapons on base. But not in this feminized military. The states surrounding bases permit that, but not the bases themselves, supposedly places of martial professionalism. Feminist paradigms are a biotch.


7 posted on 04/03/2014 5:06:46 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: dalebert

Key word: treated, key word: suicide, Key word: homicidal.Key word: side effects. We live in a country incapable of connecting the dots.


8 posted on 04/03/2014 5:08:13 AM PDT by Captain7seas
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To: PaulCruz2016
I'm not gonna judge at this point.Never having gotten within 6000 miles of combat (despite having served in the Vietnam era) I'm in no position to tell a combat vet “just get over it”.I will say that any member of our Armed Forces who show even the slightest psychological troubles,particularly if they have combat experience,should be treated with kid gloves both by medical staff *and* the chain of command.
9 posted on 04/03/2014 5:16:38 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: dalebert

Sought mental health at the VA ?


10 posted on 04/03/2014 5:19:28 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: hondact200

....Or rather deal with what is really troubling America, the reality of EVIL.


11 posted on 04/03/2014 5:25:38 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: hondact200
So the guy has ptsd, just another psychological babble story. Right, he was nuts too.

PTSD or SJS. He didn't just snap. This was premeditated since he bought the gun a not long before the terrorist attack.

12 posted on 04/03/2014 5:33:29 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Progov
“Work place violence” or “jihad by terrorist”?

I can't decide which one I'd rather be killed by. /sarc

13 posted on 04/03/2014 5:33:41 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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Obamacare!


14 posted on 04/03/2014 5:34:27 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Sought mental health at the VA ?

"Sought"? They are trying to cram it down your throat!

You cannot call or visit the VA these days without someone asking you if are going whacko. IIRC, they ask you that before they tell you that "if you are having a medical emergency, call 911".

It has been that way for several years.

15 posted on 04/03/2014 5:36:27 AM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: Gay State Conservative
... any member of our Armed Forces who show even the slightest psychological troubles,particularly if they have combat experience,should be treated with kid gloves
I don't know the shooter's combat experience, but let me say this - how the hell did hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of combat vets return from the horrors of WWII and never shot up an Army base or school?
All veterans suffer PTSD - combat vets even more so. But it isn't some overwhelming, catastrophic disease like cancer where we need to profile, stigmatize and isolate our veterans.
PTSD has become the excuse du jour for bad behavior, just like racism is used by the poverty pimps and globull warming for everything bad that happens in the universe.
16 posted on 04/03/2014 5:46:58 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

He served 4 months in Iraq in 2011 during the pullout. He was a truck driver who saw no combat. That’s what I heard on the news this morning - of course, it may be updated and my information may turn out to be wrong.


17 posted on 04/03/2014 6:04:31 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: PaulCruz2016

Having been associated with the mental health medical community for about seven years, let me tell you, I learned that mental health care is not for amateurs and is very tricky business. And I thought I read that this fellow was on medication for depression and anxiety. People on these meds need frequent clinic visits and need to be very closely watched.

The problem is that depressed patients often clearly must be treated, but the treatments themselves can sometimes paradoxically make things worse. The most commonly used class of antidepressants, SSRIs, can basically dull the emotional and moral spectrum of patients. That is, the patient may be inured to symptoms of hopelessness and despair, but the meds may also may cause the patient just to not care about anything or anyone else. In other words, the meds can result in them ending up on the tipping point of sociopathic behavior. It will be interesting to see the reports of what this man’s demeanor was when he did this.


18 posted on 04/03/2014 6:04:33 AM PDT by mtrott
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To: miss marmelstein
He was a truck driver who saw no combat.
I wouldn't be surprised. Back in the late 70s, early 80s, I helped start my local Vietnam Veterans of America ... but quit after 6 months.
Turned out, the guys who couldn't hold jobs, did the most complaining, had the worst marriages, were most irresponsible, laziest, etc., were never in country.
But they could still blame VN for their problems, even if it was only by proxy.
19 posted on 04/03/2014 6:17:32 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

That’s sort of true in every profession, isn’t it? The biggest complainers are generally the laziest.


20 posted on 04/03/2014 6:21:08 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: mtrott

The watch time on anti-depressants is when the depressed person starts feeling more active - that’s when they often kill themselves. Once they get past that, the drugs can work wonders. I don’t think they depress “morals.” They do relieve relentless, pointless guilt associated with obsessive compulsiveness but do not turn people into moral idiots. Unless they were like that originally.


21 posted on 04/03/2014 6:25:52 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein
The biggest complainers are generally the laziest.
Biggest complainers are usually the worst offenders, not necessarily laziest.
22 posted on 04/03/2014 6:30:03 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: miss marmelstein

well thought out observations. SSRI’s were a lifesaver for me 10 yrs. ago. There is nothing like the helplessness of Anxiety, depression and panic disorder caused by genetic and environmental factors. I never had the urge to kill or any other aggressive tendency. I just wanted to feel normal again.


23 posted on 04/03/2014 6:45:52 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: 2nd Amendment

God bless you, Second! Depression is a truly evil illness. But it can be controlled with proper treatment and drugs. Sadly, I agree that genetics play a major role in mental illness.

Mariel Hemingway, btw, has dedicated her life to spreading the news about the connection between genetics and suicide. With her family history, she should know.


24 posted on 04/03/2014 7:28:21 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: PaulCruz2016

He was in Iraq for four months in a “non-combat job,” according to the news accounts from Ft. Hood last night. Why didn’t the Boston Glob know this?

There is speculation that he was trying for years to get a PSTD designation, but hadn’t succeeded. So he could have decided to show everyone who hadn’t believed him that he really was crazy, getting revenge at the same time. Of course, the true story will never come out because he is dead, unlike Hassan, who was revealed to be a genuine jihadi, even though the Obama administration didn’t believe it.


25 posted on 04/03/2014 9:33:43 AM PDT by txrefugee
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