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1 posted on 03/26/2014 11:50:25 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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Oh, Oh! Better watch out for SunkenCiv. ;^)


2 posted on 03/26/2014 11:54:40 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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Sounds like she should pay her “Liberty Tax”


3 posted on 03/27/2014 12:06:06 AM PDT by funfan
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America acted stupidly in 2008 and 2012.


4 posted on 03/27/2014 12:25:46 AM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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It will be interesting to see what happens as the reality of this sets in, and as people are spending thousands, tens of thousands per year more than now, and have NO medical care.

BO did not anticipate this. I wonder credibly if he truly, his spoiled self, has no earthly idea how money works, and he thought that people like Bush just ran around telling everyone what to do, eating and travelling, and things all worked out.

But single payer will not happen. this is it. It just unravels from here.

THe government medical systems, Germany, England and Canada, they are not healthy. Our own, the military medical system is often joked about, the VA was always considered inferior, and those do not operate very well. Not like private medical care, here. They are huge and inefficient and bad doctors can thrive for twenty years in those systems. The patients are healthy, in the active duty side, young, and their spouses and kids, ditto. The VA, lots of elderly and sick, but it is a limited population. And they, former military, combat vets, are the most, by far, patient people in the country. They show up, get told it’ll be a 5 or 7 hour wait, and they smile and sit down and wait.

And those tow are systems with doctors. The military pays for the education of these doctors. They can do so.

Now, with a $17 T debt, growing, and this fiasco costing billions just to run, that’s before any medical care takes place, there is no medical school tuition coming from anywhere, no doctors are going to want to be a part of this, and med students are changing their minds.

Ann is right about the Shorts clad doctors.

This is not going to work.

Any one of those politicians could use their brain and see what is happening, and fix it, at least campaign against it.

But no one, after six months of implementation, is getting care under this. THe delay is a sign to me that they are even putting off single payer. The medical community willing to go along with this, and I haven’t heard of anyone, will be as competent as anyone else who signs up to work for BO. they’ll be like biden, Pelosi, ryan, Reid, Cantor, Boner, and the secret service agents who got sent back home for drunkenness unless they were set up


5 posted on 03/27/2014 12:31:26 AM PDT by stanne
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Ann sounds pissed...

"So my only two health insurance options...are: (1) a plan that no doctors take; or (2) a plan that no hospitals take. ...

"Obamacare has made actual health insurance "illegal."

7 posted on 03/27/2014 12:48:30 AM PDT by DannyTN ( .)
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You may have an employer-provided plan now, but the waivers can't go on forever. If you live in America, your health insurance is going to disappear, too.

I don’t know. I suspect that the waivers will continue until there is a Republican in the White House.

The waivers will be perfectly fine with the Dims until they have a Republican to blame. Then suddenly waivers that have never been legal in the ObamaCare Act will no longer be just fine. The Republican in the White House will have to enforce the law as written.

Of course the Liberal Press will fall in line with the Democrats that was then this is now strategy to blame the failure of the socialized healthcare plan written and passed with out a single Republican vote on the sitting Republican president.

And yes my friends the Republican will fall for this trick and crawl away whimpering. The Dims will then push for a single payer socialized healthcare plan and the freshly beaten whimpering dog Republicans will fall in line and help the Democraps hammer out a socialized healthcare law that will condemn us all to a British still healthcare that kills the old and the young and condemns the rest to slow and cold healthcare that only a European Socialist could tolerate.

10 posted on 03/27/2014 12:59:10 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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This is the most frightening description of what it really means to those who need the ACA. I didn’t know it was this bad. The stuff of nightmares.


19 posted on 03/27/2014 2:44:46 AM PDT by firebrand
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There are some problems with the government application of the healthcare law. The first is that it does nothing to implement Standardized Prices for Procedures available to the public.

Let me explain: Going to a car dealership and haggling for a Deal starting from the MSRP is more transparent to the customer than obtaining healthcare in America. When you go to the hospital you provide them all your financial data, life history for health and work, plus any insurance and forms of payment, all before you receive treatment. Only after treatment are you informed of the cost. That cost is set by a hospital administrator or the doctor, who knows what you can afford and they still gerrymander your final co-payment if they can squeeze one from you. At least with the Car Dealer and Salesman, they work from your Credit Score, and you finance or pay for the vehicle before you receive it. The healthcare in the United States costs a different price for each and every customer or patient as one prefers to see those who are treated.

Where is Dental Care and Eye Care - are they not more important to far more people than contraception and abortion?

Why did the politicians shield Consumer Price Schedules or prevent laws from making Medical Costs Transparent, as say the menu at McDonalds or Burger King? While there are variables, build into every patient's bill is the overhead that the Administrators approve before sending out a bill, which in all likelihood is based on the information you already provided on insurance(s) coverage and employment/income sources.

If the Conservative Base is going to reverse ObamaCare, it must start with transparency in Pricing. A good place to start might be with what Medicare will pay for a certain procedure, or what Aetna/Coventry Health Care Insurance would pay, and find a level of profit not exceeding the 7-8% the Oil Companies are subjected to not exceeding as fair compensation for all patients. Broken arm with two hours treatment, $750 or a pair of glasses (available from Bejing for $58 with single lens multifocal prescription) for $120.

I know some the pricing ideas may trample the free market, however, those who determine not to participate in receiving insurance are already charging their customers higher rates - capitalism at work. But for those with insurance, the amounts billed should be standardized.

A final thought on the health care debacle. I believe that the socialists ideas on crony-capitalism exhibited in the Auto Industry bailouts is evident in the healthcare industry as well, given that all payments are tied to the insurance company's which in turn will ensure (insure) that an entire sector of the economy remains viable without defaults.

23 posted on 03/27/2014 3:42:50 AM PDT by Jumper
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Q: How come Ann “I Love RINOs” Coulter can’t muster the same courage that Matt Drudge has?

A: Because RINOs love big government programs as much as the other wing of the Demoplican Party.


24 posted on 03/27/2014 3:49:46 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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"I prefer to think of my plan as "undocumented."

Priceless. Good of Ann Coulter to keep the destruction wreaked by 0bamacareagaedon at the top of the news.

Interesting that at the same time the democRATS are said to be secretly pushing for new changes to ObamaCare amid midterm fears

Wrap this albatross around their necks this November.

26 posted on 03/27/2014 4:18:56 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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In a sane and just world (yes, my fantasy), there would be national TV commercials featuring sports and Hollywood stars explaining 0bamacare to America with their script written by Ann Coulter.


27 posted on 03/27/2014 4:30:33 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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