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Nancy Pelosi moves to force immigration vote
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | March 26, 2014 | By Carolyn Lochhead

Posted on 03/26/2014 3:09:47 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco opened on Wednesday an effort to force House Republicans to bring an immigration overhaul to a vote. Most observers think the effort is doomed.

Rep. Zoe Lofgren, a San Jose Democrat who is the top Democrat on the Judiciary Committee’s immigration panel, spoke passionately on the floor about a potentially “truly historic” day, but so far it remains just that. President Obama likewise issued a statement encouraging the effort.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; alreadyposted; amnesty; border; california; nancypelosi; randnesty; tyranny

1 posted on 03/26/2014 3:09:47 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Pray she is not successful.


2 posted on 03/26/2014 3:10:37 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

3 posted on 03/26/2014 3:18:34 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I thought it was Boehner’s job to force this?


4 posted on 03/26/2014 3:21:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Immigration is dead until after the elections.

It is WAY too close to the next elections for ANY politician to be making a risky vote.. especially on something as controversial as Immigration/Amnesty.

She knows this. Imagine forcing Dems in red states such as Arkansas and Louisiana to vote on immigration NOW. LOL!!!


5 posted on 03/26/2014 3:22:03 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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Mmmmm....vote-crazed Dems are desperate----the clock is ticking ---- 2014 looms and the votes arent there for the lock-stepping party loyalists.

Minority Madam Nancy Pelosi (Dimwit-CA) has said that amnesty legislation would pass by June if it passes this year,

FACTS ON FILE---The Senate Immigration "Reform" Bill
Protects corrupt Latino Public Officials from US laws and from prosecution.

Vote-crazed Dems' amnesty law absolves elected/appointed latinos holding US public office from prosecution for wrongdoing---for crimes like government fraud, graft, bribery, selling votes for cash....(the usual politician crimes).

There really is a Ntl Assoc of Latino Elected and Appt Officials organized for govt fraud.

NANCY SUCKS UP at Ntl Assoc of Latino Elected and Appt Officials Gala in DC
L-R--Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ);
Dr Salomon Melgen (under scrutiny for corrupt deals w/ Sen Menendez);
Rep Nancy Pelosi (Dimwit-CAL); Francisco
J. Sanchez, US Under Secy of Commerce for Intl Trade,
Emilio Sanchez, Pres/CEO of VOXXI
(Photo/ Voxxi---Dr Melgen's latino solidarity web site)

6 posted on 03/26/2014 3:23:37 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This would be a wedge issue that would favor the Republicans, if there weren't so many of them hell-bent on suicide. Given that Boehner and the GOPe want it, but are holding off for now to avoid a fight within the caucus, the devious play would be to set it up so that Nancy Pelosi "forces" a vote. Boehner's RINOs can then vote with the Dem caucus, and we have illegal aliens as our new brethren.
7 posted on 03/26/2014 3:23:38 PM PDT by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The only vote that is needed on immigration is the one that makes the Government actually use the immigration laws it has. They have worked for million up to this point.


8 posted on 03/26/2014 3:23:49 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: ConservativeMan55

The most dangerous time is the day after the November elections until the new Congress is seated in January.

Watch for the amnesty pimps in Congress to rear their ugly heads during this time period.


9 posted on 03/26/2014 3:25:11 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: nickcarraway

She’s giving Boehner cover. John Boy will claim “there’s nothing I could do”.

The Uniparty is the enemy.


10 posted on 03/26/2014 3:25:37 PM PDT by Ray76 (Profit from the mistakes of others, you'll never live long enough to make them all yourself.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco opened on Wednesday an effort to force House Republicans to bring an immigration overhaul to a vote. Most observers think the effort is doomed.

How about Screw You, Never.

Does Screw You, Never work for you?

11 posted on 03/26/2014 3:25:48 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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Obama's done everything he can to suckup to illegals except fellate a latino on the Capitol steps. Obama is hopping like a jack rabbit to enroll illegals---b/c healthcare.gov is also a voter registration site---all those illegal enrollees can be plugged into Democrat rolls.

JUST FOR THE RECORD Obama's elevated latinos to the USSC, cabinet positions, admin jobs, absolved illegals of all culpability for falsifying official documents, welfare fraud, EITC fraud, murders, border violations, arms trafficking, drug trafficking. He stopped deportations, gave 'em jobs taken away from Americans, free healthcare, education, financed every other whim w/ tax dollars.

Obama is illegally giving out work permits, refusing to deport most captured illegals and he has illegitimately created a DREAM ACT by fiat. This is a man who has made absolutely clear that he has no intention of enforcing immigration law; so how do you make any kind of deal that relies on his implementing even tougher rules?

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GRAB A TOWEL Vote-crazed Dummycrats Sen. Chuck Schumer (Dim-NY) and Rep. Luis Gutierrez (Dim-IL) are salivating at the chance of passing amnesty.

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Meet the new Dummycrats---voting several times each under several identities. Quoting America hater Miguel Perez of Cal State-Northridge’s MEChA chapter: “The ultimate MECha ideology is the liberation of Aztlan (taking back the SW USA). Communism would be closest [to it]. Once Aztlan is established on US soil, ethnic cleansing (of Americans) would commence: Non-Chicanos (Americans) would have to be expelled — opposition groups (that's us) would be quashed because latinos have to keep power.”

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Hmmmmmm.....Schumer and Gutierrez are awfully close-mouthed about federal Tax dollars flowing to race-based, blood-thirsty "La Raza." The amnesty bill would gift LaRaza w/ a neverending per annum $100 million to conduct its hate-America activites.

NOTE Violence-filled La Raza was given tax dollars and Congressionsl earmarks to finance its mortgage activities. La Raza's "strategic partnerships” with Wachovia and Bank of America forced the lowering mortgage-application requirements and documentation standards. La Raza aided and abetted risky federal and private-home loans to latinos over the last decade thanks to the lending industry’s version of “don’t ask, don’t tell.” In addition to millions of federal tax dollars, La Raza also collected a $1 million Democratic earmark that funded “community-development” projects. Analysts report that much of it went to "mortgage counseling." (waiting for hysterical laughter to die down).

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Republican Sen Charles Grassley tried to assist Americans w/ an amendment to the amnesty bill "Congress should not thumb its nose at the millions of Americans who are victims of identity theft, often perpetrated by an undocumented person who steals Social Security numbers to get jobs, govt benefits, driver's licenses and more. This amendment will simply require the person applying for RPI status to disclose any previously used Social Security numbers," said Grassley. "It's the first step to helping clean up the mess that's been created for the victim of identity theft. The amendment also authorizes certain federal agencies, upon receipt of this information, to notify individuals who were the victims."

SEN SCHUMER CHIMED IN: Dismissing Sen Grassley's proposal, ranking Dem member Sen Schumer (Dimwit-NY) said: "When people are living in undocumented status, there are times, I suppose, when they've made up identities, made up Social Security numbers. How are they going to remember all that? (The) purpose of this bill is to bring people out of the shadows. We all know when they lived in the shadows, they had to forge documents, forge Social Security numbers, et cetera. I just don't see how, when you've lived here 10 years, and you've had many different identities, many different numbers, you're going to remember them all," said Schumer.

12 posted on 03/26/2014 3:31:40 PM PDT by Liz
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Now you have a real point there!!


13 posted on 03/26/2014 3:33:50 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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DOES GUTIERREZ HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST? Is he a member of La Raza or other America-haring organizations in line to receive millions in federal tax dollars via the amnesty bill? If he is a member, that would be grounds for diaqualification.

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Gutierrez brags he was once in "the bario" working as a cab driver before stinking up Capitol Hill with his Third World mentality.

So how many identities was Bario-Luis using?

<><>How many Social Security numbers was he using?

<><> How many govt checks was he cashing?

Americans demand answers.

Americans demand to know whether Gutierrez falsified official documents to get college scholarships and financial aid.

<><> Did Gutierrez ever engage in voter fraud?

<><> Did he ever coach others to engage in voter fraud?

<><> Is he registered to vote under several identities?

<><> did he ever vote under several identities?

<><> Did he coach illegals to vote using multiple identities?

<><> How many identities does he have?

<><> How many identities did Gutierrez ever use?

<><> Does he have a rap sheet here? Elsewhere?

<><> Does he now or did he ever receive welfare, food stamps, SSI, free medical care, Section 8 housing, UI, Workmen's comp under several identities?

<><> Did he ever apply for, and receive, monthly SS checks, claiming "asylum?"

<><> Did he or his family fraudulently apply for a sub-prime mortgage?

<><> Did he or his family ever make false claims on IRS forms in order to get multiple EITC refunds?

<><> Does he have a legal driver's license?

<><> Does he have a valid passport?

<><> How many times did he wire-transfer money back to Mexico? The Third World?

<><> Is he colluding w/ the Third World?

<><> How often does he travel to The Third World?

<><> Does Gutierrez or his family belong to radical America-hating organizations planning armed conflict to takeover the American SW?

<><> Did he ever get--free school lunches--welfare--- food stamps---free healthcare---SSI/ADD checks.

<><> Is he facilitating the draining of the US economy---wiring back to secret Mexican bank accounts?

<><> Does he or his family have offshore accounts under multiple identities?

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Did Gutierrez cash multiple govt checks under several identities in these categories:

UI, SSI, Workmen's Comp,

TANF (temporary assistance to needy families),

WICS (food assistance),

subsidized Section 8 shelter,

ObamaPhone subsidies,

Utility Assistance subsidies,

School breakfasts/lunches/snacks subsidies,

$5000 a year EITC checks per identity.

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Did Gutierrez ever falsify govt documents for himself? Did he use his Congressional office to falsify documents for illegal aliens in order to get govt benefits?

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Falsifying Government Documents involves altering, changing, or modifying a document for the purpose of deception.......can also involve forgery and/or passing copies of false documents. Falsifying documents is usually done in connection with broader criminal aims, such as extortion, government fraud, tax evasion, money laundering, financing terrorism........

Types of documents commonly falsified may include:
◾Tax returns and income statements
◾Personal checks
◾Bank account records
◾Business record keeping books
◾Immigration documents (such as visas, passports, etc.)
◾Identification cards and birth certificates

Many different types of acts can be considered as falsifying a document, including:
◾Altering or misrepresenting factual information such as prices or monetary amounts
◾Stating false information when requested to provide truthful statements
◾Forging a signature
◾Using official letterheads without authorization
◾Concealing assets or property WRT obtaining federal/state grants))
◾Knowingly using or distributing a fake document

A person can only be held criminally liable if they are deliberately acting with the intention of deceiving or defrauding another party. /

Falsifying documents is a very serious offense and is generally classified as a felony. This means that a person charged with falsifying documents may be subject to the following legal penalties:
◾Having to pay a monetary fine
◾Incarceration in a prison facility

Depending on the gravity of the offense, as well as individual state laws, falsifying documents can result in a prison sentence of 5-10 years. Also, if government documents or authorities were involved, the legal penalties may be more severe. ..... legal penalties may increase with repeat offenses.

The penalty for falsifying government documents is outlined in the Crimes Act of 1958.

14 posted on 03/26/2014 3:35:23 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

of course they’re going to push for immigration this week - after all, we can’t have everyone focused on Europe and Zero’s abject failure as America’s Statesman, can we?


15 posted on 03/26/2014 3:43:42 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: nickcarraway

Boner wouldn’t know how to force anything but the cigarette smoke out his sphincter, er, mouth. He is Bela’s bitch — she has more stones than he does.


16 posted on 03/26/2014 3:50:00 PM PDT by Polyxene (Out of the depths I have cried to Thee, O Lord; Lord, hear my voice.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I thought that our elected officials job was to enforce the Constitution and represent American Citizens? Last I heard Non Americans couldn’t vote. Yeah I know, I know!


17 posted on 03/26/2014 4:08:37 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Pelosi has her eyes on the prize.
18 posted on 03/26/2014 4:18:22 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

She need jail time


19 posted on 03/26/2014 4:27:19 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Im missing a jumbo jet with 235 passengers has anyone seen it?)
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