NRA: Federal surveillance policies could lead to gun registry

Washington Times ^ | March 16, 2014 | David Sherfinski

[neverdem]

The National Rifle Association has filed a friend-of-the-court brief in a case in federal court in New York challenging the federal government’s data surveillance techniques, arguing the data collection violates the First Amendment and could undermine federal privacy laws that prohibit the formation of a registry of firearms or gun owners.

The gun rights group is supporting a request by the American Civil Liberties Union to reverse a ruling from the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York that upheld the surveillance policies.

The brief filed this month comes as privacy issues and government spying has once again risen to the forefront after Sen. Dianne Feinstein, California Democrat and chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, made the stunning accusation on the Senate floor that the CIA snooped through congressional documents related to the country’s detention and interrogation techniques.

CIA Director John O. Brennan has denied the snooping and the CIA has filed an official complaint with the Justice Department accusing Senate staffers of having stolen the key CIA document in the first place.

But the NSA case is illustrative of the odd bedfellows the issues of privacy, spying and government surveillance have created in recent years...

[neverdem]

Strange bedfellows indeed!

[edpc]

Gun grabbers deny they will ever require registration. See CT for the lie.

[Paladin2]

Once all of the store surveillance cameras are tied into the NSA in real time, it's over.

There will be "The Machine" just like in the TV show "Person of Interest".

[gdani]

A defacto gun registry is but one reason to oppose this bipartisan-approved surveillance state.

[logic101.net]

When I was a kid they passed a seat belt law. They assured us that it would NEVER be a primary offense and no one would EVER be pulled over for it.

The same thing was done with smoking; “we just want non-smoking sections” in planes and restaurant's.

[KeyLargo]

Defense & National Security
Stockman, Miller bill restores veteran gun rights

By: Danielle Thompson
3/23/2014 09:24 PM

Second Amendment rights of law-abiding military veterans continue to be stripped away without due process.

A 1998 agreement between the Department of Veterans Affairs and the FBI was one of the first jabs at veterans’ Second Amendment rights. The agreement was made to send the names of veterans into the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, triggering a virtual lifetime ban from owning firearms of those who are labeled as “mentally incompetent,” meaning they need or desire the assistance of a fiduciary to help them manage, often complicated, financial affairs.

This agreement forced law-abiding veterans into the NICS database without due process.

There are legislators attempting to end the practice of forwarding names of military veterans to be stripped of their Second Amendment rights.

This congressional session, congressmen Stephen E. Stockman (R.-Texas) and Jefferson B. “Jeff” Miller R.-Florida) introduced H.R. 602, the Veterans Second Amendment Protection Act, to combat the assault to our law-abiding soldiers. Miller is the chairman of the House Committee on Veteran Affairs.

http://www.humanevents.com/2014/03/23/stockman-miller-bill-restores-veteran-gun-rights/

[SunkenCiv]

Aligning with the ACLU and Feinstein should be a red flag for anyone. Down the rabbit hole ping. Thanks neverdem.

[Yosemitest]

The only way to stop the COMMUNISTS is to bury them!

[Blue Collar Christian]

So if this moves forward to become policy and it is no longer legal for the gov’t to spy on us in this manner, by a show of hands, who believes the gov’t will stop spying on us in this manner?

[expat2]

Apparently anyone with a carry permit is registered as a gun owner in state and national databases associated with driver licensing.

[VerySadAmerican]

It’s already done. They’re not ready to admit it yet but “You are being watched.”

[redgolum]

I have been told there is a de facto registry all ready.

In short, if you get a catalog, you are expected to have a gun,.

[Resolute Conservative]

The movie Enemy of the State.

[Resolute Conservative]

Once they perfect eye scanning look for scene like the movie Minority Report where you cannot go anywhere without being tagged.

[tomkat]

The gun rights group is supporting a request by the American Civil Liberties Union ..

<hell @ 10° alert>

[tomkat]

That

Fascism 101

[Hardastarboard]

4.5 million of the highest profile targets are on the NRA’s computers. All they have to do is hack their membership rolls (and I’m sure they already have).

[lentulusgracchus]

... by a show of hands, who believes the gov’t will stop spying on us in this manner?

Uh, no.

ATF and FBI were already flouting Acts of Congress under Dubya and building 4473's and NIC checks into a national gun-owner list.

Remember that the Pew Centers have mapped the opinions and agendas of segments of the population. The e-RiNO's of whom the Bush Manor is part are very soft on gun rights, and in 1999, Pew opined that if strict gun control such as DiFi and Slick wanted did come about, it would be by the 11th-hour betrayal (my word) of 2A by the Crusterati among the GOP.

[Blue Collar Christian]

“... if strict gun control such as DiFi and Slick wanted did come about...”

Oh, I know. Dubya said he would sign legislation to renew the AWB if it made it to his desk. The GOPe are not the friend of freedom in this country, they are just progs getting the votes of conservatives only to betray us.