Posted on 03/18/2014 8:37:58 AM PDT by Din Maker
Thanks for the info. It would take something big to change the dynamics of that race with only 2 months to go. Sarah Palin campaigning for Bevin across the state (I doubt she would challenge McConnell, though) or something like that, together with a lot of money pouring in. I will be bummed if Bevin can’t pull this off, it will make McConnell more arrogant than ever—and make him believe that now it’s time to sell himself to Democrats, so he will thumb his nose at conservatives. All the more reason for the Dem to win in November. Imagine, the Senate majority leader losing in a tsunami year. That would send a message, too.
Pure, unadulterated bovine excrement. Bush was NEVER a Conservative and RARELY fought the Democrats on domestic issues. He was simply a kinder-gentler big government statist. Surrendering to democrats instead of upholding Constitutional/free market and Conservative principles were the problem time and again.
That point is irrelevant to the question of “How can we move forward?” You can yell and scream all you want but you will be powerless until conservatives can generate enough votes to advance an agenda.
You have a fatal case of Normalcy Bias and clueless as to the reality of what time it is.
It sounds like you are happy being part of a powerless, impotent, angry mob ruled by liberal socialist/communists and joining the opposition and fighting for freedom through the mechanics created by the constitution for initiating change is too much of a bother for somebody as important as yourself.
The Constitution has been overthrown by the regime in power and aided by the very party you think is going to save it. You sound just like the typical Judenrat Party hack and echo what McConnell just told the NYT last weekend.
You DO NOT fight a MarxoFascist coup by supporting Ruling Class Statists who have made it public that they intend to wipe out Constitutional Conservatives.
Who the hell do you think you are trying to fool here?
I’m still waiting for your solution. Please explain how you propose to fix the problem. Unless you are advocating a violent overthrow of the government you must have a realistic plan to advance a conservative agenda through the electoral process.
WHAT IS YOU SOLUTION?!?
I hear you. However, I think strong backing from Rand Paul would get Matt Bevin elected. I’m not convinced that McConnell could beat the democrat, Lundergan-Grimes, in November but I believe Bevin would. Against the odds and the wishes of the establishment republicans, including McConnell, Rand Paul managed to get elected with the strong support of the Tea Party crowd. I think Paul should return the favor, set aside his personal ambitions and help Tea Party-backed Matt Bevin get elected.
I think Rand Paul is the best thing to come out of this state in a very long time. That being said, prior to the Tea Party McConnell was about as good as it could get. I'm thinking I won't vote for Mitch in the primary, I truthfully haven't decided yet. I'm sour on Mitch but he has done a lot of good in the past, I'm reluctant to fire someone who has done so much good. Remember that it was McConnell who sued over McCain Finegold and went all the way to the Supreme Court.
There are many things worse than a Senator McConnell. Regardless while I am a conservative I will vote for the candidate whomever it is that wins the Republican Primary.
Ted caught some heat from RNC for his “no endorsing pre-Primary.
I’m a TedHead first, but I don’t think we should be calling Rand a RINO for a different position.
The other thing that needs to be learned by the GOPe is that they cannot savage conservative candidates every single time and then expect us to support their people blindly because the Democrats are worse. We have learned that this is not necessarily the case. Sharon Angle, Blount, the guy from Indiana, the gal from Rhode Island. They were all the kind of people who Democrats would rally around and defend when they got in trouble. Imagine if a guy like Karl Rove came to the defense of conservative candidates, instead of attacking them as harshly as the Democrats. They just might be able to recover. Instead, when the party goes after them, and fails to provide funding, and laughs at them, they have no chance. And then, the GOPe says, "see, I told you." They are great at self-fulfilling prophecies.
“supposedly”
You accept rumor for fact in your daily business? :)
You are obviously racked in 5th stage Normalcy Bias. The fact that WE have been overthrown in a velvet coup because idiots voted for a MarxoFascist in 2008 escapes your ability to recognize.
I served the GOP in Cook County, IL - I know what institutionalized corruption and rigging looks like. Think North Korea. Now it's NATIONAL. We saw our last 'honest' national electoral process' back in 2008. If you rest your hopes on a corrupted electoral system, rigged in favor of the Ruling Class and the New Oligarchy, then I say to you - enjoy the new Soviet, it's all your children will ever know.
Please explain how you propose to fix the problem….WHAT IS YOU SOLUTION?!?
If you understood the lessons of history - even our OWN history - you would know the answer to that question.
But you and most others ABSOLUTELY refuse to see the truth - and so we have no solution for this problem of the overthrow of the Republic, except to suffer at the hands of the tyranny of men imposing a MarxoFascist state upon us.
If people will not look at reality and understand the truth facing them, they have no hope whatsoever in prevailing over the intents of evil men. Period.
Absolutely correct. Reasonable observation shows that while most people are against OCare, the GOPe is refusing to campaign on it. Overwhelming evidence is that if the entire GOP ran on nothing but the evils of Ocare, they would cream the Dems all over the place in Nov. They are quietly and carefully avoiding doing that. They want to win AND keep Ocare. Because Ocare is POWER over we, the great unwashed.
If what you say is true, then I can understand supporting Bevin. I am not familiar with details in Kentucky. If Bevin is that good, he should be able to beat McConnell in primary. Similar to Ted Cruz’s triumph over the establishment candidate in primary.
ahh... You are from IL. That explains a lot. The abomination in office today is “your” fault. He comes from your state. Your State had the chance to reject him politically but instead elected him to the Senate. Good job IL voter...
The conservatives in your State have failed. You are a raving lunatic who makes no sense. Your ability to persuade is -0-. Every time you open your mouth another moderate or independent chooses to vote democrat. You have no right to criticize the liberal government as long as you attack the opposition party. Until you choose to oppose the viable solution you are part of the problem...
That's it? That's all you got? Blame a single Conservative for not stopping a Communist from winning office in the corrupted Soviet State of IL? A state where the GOP Ruling Class took over the party and has run out every Conservative from it? The same thing the McConnell/Ruling Class Machine is now doing here?
You are not only stuck on stupid - you're ignorantly delusional.
The conservatives in your State have failed.
No longer my state, but same with the rest of the country. Your point? Many like you made the mistake of thinking if you play by the rules and appeal to a 'big tent', you can defeat Communist machine evil in a civil contest. You're wrong.
You obviously have no understanding what a coup and an oligarchy is. Good luck trying to vote that out of power.
Every time you open your mouth another moderate or independent chooses to vote democrat.
So says the moron who demands Conservatives surrender principles to vote for a Ruling Class Statist Republican who supports via stealth and subterfuge, the Democrat agenda.
You have no right to criticize the liberal government as long as you attack the opposition party.
There IS NO OPPOSITION PARTY. But leave it to you big government Statist supporters to decree that Conservatives like me have no rights. You and your Ruling Class pals like McConnell have a lot in common - "crush Tea Party Conservatives everywhere"….. you all sound the same. Same insults, derision and castigation if Conservatives will not tow your Ruling Class party demands.
Until you choose to oppose the viable solution you are part of the problem…
The same imbecillic advice coming from a party hack who thinks Dole, McCain and Romney were 'viable solutions'. You have no clue what time it is.
Enjoy what you've earned with your 'votes'.
When I was younger I boxed golden gloves and full contact karate. When you go into a fight you have to have a plan. You have to know your weakness in order to protect yourself and you have to know your opponents weakness in order to know how to attack. You cannot just go in all angry and thrash about; you have to be cool and calm.
Your problem is you don't know how to fight and how to defend yourself. You have no plan, no strategy for winning, only misplaced anger. You don't understand your enemy; hell you don't even know who your allies are. All you know how to do is lose. All you know is surrender. Your angry because you see everything slipping away and your powerless to do anything about. You are a defeatist.
Don't bother responding because I am done wasting my time on a fool. You have over 200 years of American History to review. There are lessons that will teach you how it is possible to win. There are great Americans who used the system created by our constitution to make changes for the better. Until the time comes when you are ready to transform yourself into an instrument for positive change you will remain a loser.
I don’t think we should be calling Rand a RINO for a different position.
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Then pray tell, what is the criteria for determining if someone is a RINO. I will be anxiously awaiting your reply.
You are so full of assumptions, not having any clue of that which you claim to know so much about.
I'm a 2nd Dan in Taekwondo and studied Iado and Kenjustsu - a few tourneys under my belt, so I have a little understanding of what it means to 'fight back'.
You remind me of the guys who were so overconfident in their particular style and tactics, they saw no use for understanding their opponent beyond what they thought was needed in their own skill box. They always lost. More instructive was how these same types of people always got their lunch handed to them in a streetfight because they assumed their antagonists would fight fair or with honor.
You have no plan, no strategy for winning, only misplaced anger.
Your 'strategy' is stuck on "vote the Ruling Class Rino" so we can "win", so your 'advice' is worthless here.
You don't understand your enemy; hell you don't even know who your allies are.
You're projecting again. I'm not the imbecile who thinks voting for more Ruling Class RINO's and appealing to Moderates is how we 'win' against lawless MarxoFascists. Nor am I the moron who supports a traitor to the Cause who tells the NYT that they are going to "crush Conservatives everywhere".
Look in a mirror pal. You are talking about yourself.
All you know how to do is lose. All you know is surrender. Your angry because you see everything slipping away and your powerless to do anything about. You are a defeatist.
Keep voting for Ruling Class Rino's and Statists and see where that gets you in terms of keeping the Republic and your liberties. You aren't surviving what's coming.
You have over 200 years of American History to review. There are lessons that will teach you how it is possible to win.
Says the imbecile who cannot fathom the concept that defeating the Crown took a bit more than voting for Loyalists to Parliament. But keep prostrating yourself before the throne and play by the rules they have established to ensure their perpetuity.
There are great Americans who used the system created by our constitution to make changes for the better.
You're too stupid to understand your faith in a corrupted system playing by corrupted rules while voting for corrupted men to save our liberties is a FAILED strategy in a streetfight with lawless tyrants.
You have a fatal case of Normalcy Bias.
Apparently, you did not read the article. If you would have you would know that it’s NOT a rumor. That was Mr. Benton’s own admission. Do you always jump to conclusions in your business without adequately researching first?
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