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To: bfh333

I think the problem with many is that they believe that this can all go away with the next election. That is what keeps us paralyzed to inaction.

If the dems cheat or we lose in 2014, we will once again do nothing and swear that if we just win the 2016 election, we can turn all this back.

No matter what happens, the left isn’t going away. Win or lose they will keep up the pressure. Americans no longer control the Government, it is now a global body that operates outside the Constitution.

The idea is that the US, Mexico and Canada are to become one. Like it or not, with amnesty, we are pretty much over.


12 posted on 03/17/2014 5:45:04 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dforest
The idea is that the US, Mexico and Canada are to become one. Like it or not, with amnesty, we are pretty much over.

The borders in question no longer represent barriers between differing cultures - so for economic reasons, it seems expedient to the elites to simply do away with them. NAFTA has pretty much taken care of that already, but the elites' desire to annex Mexican labor and Canadian resources is simply too strong to be overcome by mere voters with quality-of-life concerns.

17 posted on 03/17/2014 5:51:58 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL-GALT-DELETE])
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To: dforest
No matter what happens, the left isn’t going away. Win or lose they will keep up the pressure.

Excellent point.

One of the major differences between the parties is that the democrats persevere while republicans generally do not.

Democrats can slop at the pig trough and still plot, plan and pursue their long term agenda.

republicans seem to be unable to do anything else once they have their snouts in the pig trough.


18 posted on 03/17/2014 5:56:23 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Albert Einstein: The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: dforest

“I think the problem with many is that they believe that this can all go away with the next election. That is what keeps us paralyzed to inaction.”

The truth is Obamacare and many of the progressive programs would be gone today if the Republicans had the guts to play politics the way the Democrats play it. If they were playing hardball like the Democrats the Republican Congress elected in 2010 had passed a balanced budget in 2011 that defunded Obamacare, slashed spending at the regulatory agencies, ended grants to community organizing groups, and downsized the bureaucracy by cutting out entire departments whose useful life is at an end (Education, Labor, HUD, Commerce, EPA, OSHA, much of HHS, Energy, Agriculture). Once they passed the budget they would have adjourned telling the Senate and the President this is the only appropriations bill you’ll get. The Democrat Senate would have declined to pass it, shutting down the government. The House would have taken the shutdown heat for 2-3 weeks and Boehner would have told Harry Reid and the press everyday all he has to do to open the government is pass the budget that’s on his desk. Given no choice Reid would have had to pass the bill and Obama would have had to sign it.

instead the Dems turned the tables on the Republicans. They refused to take any appropriations bill that didn’t meet their terms. The Republicans, afraid of being accused of shutting down the government caved and passed the appropriations bill Obama and the Democrats wanted.

Control over appropriations and taxation is a huge power if one will use it. The Founders purposefully gave those powers to the “people’s” House. The only way the progressive destruction of America will be halted is through the appropriations process (i.e. cut off the money). The Republicans have that power today if they have the courage to use it and stand tall in the face of a blistering media assault when the do. Ultimately if they stand tough they will win.

The fact they won’t do it and take the heat indicates they are complicit. Remember when Bush II was President and Hastert was Speaker, the Republican House and Bush went on a spending spree. Earmarks galore, new domestic spending programs, and Bush never once took out his veto pen. Electing a Republican Senate and President is not the answer. The House of Representatives doing its constitutional job and passing a responsible appropriations bill is the solution. All it takes is leadership and patriots who care more about the future of the nation than their own reelection and doing the bidding of Wall Street.


48 posted on 03/17/2014 7:27:21 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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