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Oil rig worker says he saw missing plane go down: report
The Washington Times ^ | 3/12/14 | By Jessica Chasmar

Posted on 03/12/2014 12:33:06 PM PDT by Fitzy_888

Edited on 03/12/2014 12:35:14 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

ABC News correspondent Bob Woodruff has obtained a letter that an oil rig worker in Vietnam wrote to his employer claiming he saw Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 go down in flames.

Mr. Woodruff tweeted an image of the letter saying, “Oil rig worker claims in employer confirmed letter-he saw the plane go down. Vietnamese say they found nothing.”


(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 370; china; iran; malaysia; mh370; oilrig; oilrigworker; southchinasea; vietnam; waronterror
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It would be about 140 nautical miles off the coast of Vietnam (Vung Tau) in something like 350-400 foot depth.

Would the Chinese deny complicity in shooting down the plane, irrespective of what air power was tasked? Consider, would the Soviets for weeks deny the Chernobyl disaster against all logic...yup they sure did.

1 posted on 03/12/2014 12:33:06 PM PDT by Fitzy_888
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To: Fitzy_888

This whole situation is becoming absurd.

2 days ago, there was a report “the Malaysian Military” tracked it on the Western side of Malaysia, not the Eastern side, where it was supposed to be. Today, the Malaysians’ reply is “sorry - human error. That’s not correct.”

3rd world cultures and government bureaucracies amuse me.


3 posted on 03/12/2014 12:38:50 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Fitzy_888
Fox & Friends mentioned an update to the missing Malaysian flight this morning suggesting an oil rig worker may have witnessed the plane on fire at a high altitude. The story is covered here An early facebook post also included a photo posted by a passenger on another plane who witnessed what resembled several windows in sequence with fire blazing through each taken while traveling on Flight AK5122 Arasia from KL to KK at 6:45pm
4 posted on 03/12/2014 12:39:43 PM PDT by wtd
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To: Fitzy_888

http://www.upstreamonline.com/live/article1354973.ece


5 posted on 03/12/2014 12:39:57 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: PGR88

They have backed off the u-turn, Malaysian air force tracking claim. I thought it most likely went down en route.


6 posted on 03/12/2014 12:42:19 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (In the long run, we are all dead.)
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To: cynwoody

Because of the certainty and clarity expressing the object was moving in line with his observation point, making no attempt to assert whether it was coming toward him or moving away from his location, I’d say that increases is credibility.


7 posted on 03/12/2014 12:42:21 PM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: Fitzy_888

Why on Earth would China shoot down an airliner? They have a very sophisticated intel group. If they wanted somebody dead that person would have an allergic reaction or a heart attack. If they wanted the airliner to go down there would be an “obvious” cause like a failed engine or an electrical short. Why risk becoming the world’s pariah? Remember what the Soviet Union went through after shooting down Korean Airlines flight 007? (They thought it was an American recognizance plane called Cobra Ball. From the angle of their radar the two images crossed. When they separated the Soviets misidentified 007 as Cobra Ball. KAL 007 was off course and passed over a Soviet airbase. It was chased from the rear and the fighter, overextended, fired a missile at extreme range. He never had a visual and could not ID the target as a 747 instead of a 707. The missile flew up an engine and the plane fell several miles while breaking apart. It was a nightmare for the Soviets.)


8 posted on 03/12/2014 12:43:17 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Fitzy_888

He’s not a reliable witness since he doesn’t have an official government employee title.


9 posted on 03/12/2014 12:44:59 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Fitzy_888

I keep wondering if China shot the plane down thinking it was violating “their” airspace in the South China Sea.


10 posted on 03/12/2014 12:45:02 PM PDT by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: cynwoody

I need to say that this guy, Mike McKay, has provided EVERYTHING needed to find this wreckage. What a perfect, scientific report. All the revelant and supporting data is clearly reported.

He must be an engineer on the rig.


11 posted on 03/12/2014 12:46:01 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: wtd
image of locations mentioned by oil rig worker
12 posted on 03/12/2014 12:46:04 PM PDT by wtd
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To: Fitzy_888

8.375064, 108.706183

I converted these to Decimal degrees if anybody wants to search the location on google maps.


13 posted on 03/12/2014 12:46:40 PM PDT by barmag25 (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? NO!!!)
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To: PGR88

I’m having trouble believing anything they say, too. This report gives a lot of detail about the siting; bearing, wind, Lat and Long. Everything except the actual time of the observation.


14 posted on 03/12/2014 12:47:12 PM PDT by virgil
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To: wtd

Whoa! That Facebook pix + the coordinates. Finally some real info.


15 posted on 03/12/2014 12:48:17 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Fitzy_888

If you want to see where this “sighting” was, you can go to this site and enter the lat & long for the point.

http://itouchmap.com/latlong.html

Lat. 08* 22’ 30.23” N, Long. 108*42’ 22.26” E


16 posted on 03/12/2014 12:48:27 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Fitzy_888
Google maps location:

https://www.google.com/maps?t=m&ll=6.6514712,110.6178045&z=6&q=8%C2%B022%2730.2%22N+108%C2%B042%2722.3%22E&cid=0x0&output=classic&dg=ntvo.

It's the green arrow.

17 posted on 03/12/2014 12:49:06 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Fitzy_888

There have been a number of passenger’s families who have called cell phones on that flight and had someone pick up the calls, and then click off.

I do not believe that can happen when a plane crashes.


18 posted on 03/12/2014 12:49:10 PM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF USA CITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: Gen.Blather

If the Chinese had reason to believe the flight was high jacked and headed toward their main land do you think they would hesitate for a second to shoot it down? They kill people even babies all the time to serve the greater good. They are “good” like that.


20 posted on 03/12/2014 12:49:56 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: WildHighlander57; maggief

Someone somewhere saw or heard something and may hesitant to say anything


21 posted on 03/12/2014 12:49:59 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: Fitzy_888

That so weird


22 posted on 03/12/2014 12:50:03 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: PGR88

Yeah, they are either incompetent, corrupt or both. In many cases incompetently corrupt. On the other hand the US is very competent and completely corrupt.


23 posted on 03/12/2014 12:52:24 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: justlurking

Nothing there but a southbound delta winged jet, painted green.


24 posted on 03/12/2014 12:55:37 PM PDT by biggerten (Love you, Mom.)
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To: Rodamala

Assuming it’s not a hoax.


25 posted on 03/12/2014 12:56:37 PM PDT by virgil
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To: Fitzy_888

If the plane was wildly off its flight plan, it is conceivable that it could have been shot down.


26 posted on 03/12/2014 12:57:07 PM PDT by kabar
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To: wtd

The oil rig guy is nowhere near the flight path.


27 posted on 03/12/2014 12:57:16 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Tastes like Heaven, Burns like Hell! Mmmmmm. What is it?)
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To: wtd

You would think that FB picture would be a lead story. Not every day one looks out the window of a plane in mid air and see another plane on fire across the sky.


28 posted on 03/12/2014 12:57:44 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: kabar

It was never wildly off of its flight path when the transponder quit.


29 posted on 03/12/2014 12:58:29 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Tastes like Heaven, Burns like Hell! Mmmmmm. What is it?)
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To: G Larry
The distance from his location to the airplane's last reported location is 365 miles.


30 posted on 03/12/2014 12:59:12 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

That certainly is within the realm of possibility.


31 posted on 03/12/2014 1:01:37 PM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Fitzy_888

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/america-strong-withstand-9-11-president-obama-tells-author-bob-woodward-article-1.442891

President Obama smugly told Bob Woodward (cited above)that the US could just absorb another 9-11 attack. I think China would absorb an attack, blame it on their Muslim separatists and use it as an excuse to go in and kill thousands. But making themselves the bad guy is very unlikely. It is almost impossible to keep something like this secret. When the Soviet premier came out and said they didn’t shoot down KAL-007, Reagan produced the recording of the ground controllers ordering the pilot to fire his missile. They know better than to lie. It seems very improbable that anybody shot it down. It’s most likely it was hijacked and then crashed due to whatever was going on in the cockpit. Or, it might just have been a spectacular “oops!”


32 posted on 03/12/2014 1:01:42 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: US_MilitaryRules

The rig at that location does not match the name in his letter.

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/8767771/vessel:TAM_DAO_01

Thats a vietnamese rig. His name doesn’t sound Vietnamese.


33 posted on 03/12/2014 1:02:15 PM PDT by barmag25 (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? NO!!!)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

“The oil rig guy is nowhere near the flight path.”

At this point... What difference does it make?

(Sorry, somebody had to do it...) ;-)


34 posted on 03/12/2014 1:02:35 PM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Elections have consequences - NOW LOOK what we have to deal with...)
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To: SatinDoll

I don’t think anyone picked up the calls. The fact that the phones rang only means that the towers or satellites were trying to connect with the phones.

Besides, all the batteries would be dead by now anyway.


35 posted on 03/12/2014 1:02:55 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: SatinDoll
There have been a number of passenger’s families who have called cell phones on that flight and had someone pick up the calls, and then click off.
Probably picked up by Louis Farrakhan on the mothership.
36 posted on 03/12/2014 1:03:20 PM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: wtd

That photo looks horrible. Those poor people!


37 posted on 03/12/2014 1:03:52 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: Fitzy_888

I call Hoax on the letter.


38 posted on 03/12/2014 1:04:50 PM PDT by barmag25 (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? NO!!!)
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To: PGR88

...3rd world cultures and government bureaucracies amuse me...

yeah just like the USA


39 posted on 03/12/2014 1:06:42 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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Why on Earth would China shoot down an airliner?

It doesn't have to be intentional......Back in November they scrambled jets to investigate U.S. and japanese aircraft in the E. China sea.......and tensions have been increasing in the S. China sea as China is attempting to expand their territorial claim in that area.

As a side note, following the typhoon that hit the Phillipines, the U.S. sent one aircraft carrier, two cruisers and one destroyer plus two supply ships to help in the humanitarian relief.

That's an awful lot of naval force so the question that needs to be asked, was this truly humanitarian relief or a "show of force" to the Chinese who have been rattling their swords in that region?

40 posted on 03/12/2014 1:07:58 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: Fitzy_888
I also consider that this flight was shot down. In order for China to shoot it down, they'd have to have info. that the flight was hijacked because it was heading for China anyway.

Malaysia has F/A-18's and might have shot it down. The authorities steered searchers in wrong areas which raises suspicion they don't want evidence found which shows they shot it down.

China, Malaysia or even India could've shot it down.

41 posted on 03/12/2014 1:08:00 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Fitzy_888

Put him in front of the cameras and throw some water bottles at him to see what else he knows.


42 posted on 03/12/2014 1:09:42 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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http://twitpic.com/dy1qmm
43 posted on 03/12/2014 1:10:11 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: G Larry
Because of the certainty and clarity expressing the object was moving in line with his observation point, making no attempt to assert whether it was coming toward him or moving away from his location, I’d say that increases is credibility.

Yes, Mr McKay's email is refreshingly detailed and free of BS and incompetence. Of course, that doesn't mean it actually was MH370 that he saw. Unless the airplane stayed aloft and turned towards him after losing its transponder, the distance would seem to be a little far (365 miles from the point of last contact to Mr McKay's location). From how far on the surface should you be able to see a plane fire at altitude?

The mods deleted my posting of his email, but you can read it on Twitter here (click the image for a legible view).

44 posted on 03/12/2014 1:10:46 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Hot Tabasco

“That’s an awful lot of naval force so the question that needs to be asked, was this truly humanitarian relief or a “show of force” to the Chinese who have been rattling their swords in that region? “

(In November 2011?) If it was a show of force, can you imagine our metrosexual president authorized it as such? He’d say, “That’s something Bush would do. I’m far more nuanced. I’ll just call them and we’ll talk it out. Then we’ll all smoke a few j’s and it’ll be cool. You’ll see.”


45 posted on 03/12/2014 1:13:15 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: wtd

Looking at that photo, it’s unlikely a plane on fire. At that point, it wouldn’t even be in flight.........


46 posted on 03/12/2014 1:13:25 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: Gen.Blather

You can’t be serious. If China air traffic controllers had ANY indication the flight has been hijacked for the purpose of crashing into their iconic landmarks, skyscrapers or population centers you can bet the farm they’d shoot it down without hesitation.


47 posted on 03/12/2014 1:14:31 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Fitzy_888

Witnesses are very unreliable. I remember when flt 800 went down there were dozens of witnesses who saw a missile. After this there were reports in major newspapers about how unreliable eyewitness accounts are.


48 posted on 03/12/2014 1:14:38 PM PDT by TBall
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To: wtd

Interesting. I wonder what would start a fire onboard a plane that would also disable the transponder and passengers’ cell phones. Or what kind of structural or electronics failure onboard would disable it?

I wonder who or what on that plane might have set a fire or caused an explosion.

I wonder whether a particular passenger on that plane was the target of a terrorist attack.

The two Iranians look more and more suspicious, but there may have been others too. Perhaps this is part of the reason the Malays are taking so much time saying anything definitive until they check all of the passengers’ passports with their home governments. Is China cooperating? An earlier report said that China had stopped looking for the plane days ago— perhaps because they knew where it was.

My intuitive take when the plane first went down was that something went wrong inside the plane that brought it down, perhaps something wrong with the structure or with the pilot. Third possibility, passenger(s) was a terrorist. Definitely, it’s under water now.

Not to offend FR scientists, but sometimes a woman’s intuition is correct.

I’ll bet Boeing execs are nervously pacing.


49 posted on 03/12/2014 1:15:17 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: a fool in paradise

It’s parked on a secret Soros air strip.


50 posted on 03/12/2014 1:16:32 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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