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RAND PAUL ON TED CRUZ: "I'M NOT REAL EXCITED ABOUT HIM MISCHARACTERIZING MY VIEWS"
Breitbart ^ | 03/11/2014 | Jonathan Strong

Posted on 03/11/2014 8:02:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Dead Corpse; All

“Rand Paul is a Conservative-Leaning Libertarian.
Click here for explanation of political philosophy.
Click here for VoteMatch quiz.”

http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Rand_Paul.htm#Drugs

Gee, looks like they put him solidly in the Liberaltarian column, funny that.


61 posted on 03/11/2014 9:40:54 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: cdcdawg

I would argue that Ron is definitely “more libertarian” than Rand.

Then again, anyone who espouses a smaller, more Constitutional role for the FedGov is aligning with libertarian philosophy whether they are cognizant of the idea or not.

The ACLU has been a Leftist parody of what it could have been.


62 posted on 03/11/2014 9:40:57 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: Beagle8U

Damn dumbass, do you even read the links you post?

“My opponents call me libertarian but I’m pro-life. (Feb 2011)”

You funny...


63 posted on 03/11/2014 9:42:48 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: Dagnabitt

Rand wants to build a fence and have annual Congressional inspections to ensure it’s working.

Maybe he’s more “old fashioned” than you are...


64 posted on 03/11/2014 9:44:47 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: Mariner

When was the last time a LIberaltarian won an election?

They can’t unless they lie and put an ‘R’ after their name.


65 posted on 03/11/2014 9:45:25 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: cdcdawg

He doesn’t “ultimately support open borders”. Just the opposite. He has a secure the border FIRST plan.

To say or infer that he is for “open borders” is just inaccurate.

The trouble with “amnesty” is that it is a hot button issue and is a moving target. It’s a “third rail” issue. It’s definition can be almost anything.

Do the illegal issues, to you, represent problems that need to be solved?

If no, get lost, as your mind is made up or you don’t care.

If yes, Rand Paul has a viable plan. Are there things in it that people will dislike? Of course. Just saying “NO” is not a solution. He has legitimate explanations for his ideas. He is an “idea man”. I like that about him.


66 posted on 03/11/2014 9:48:48 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Dead Corpse

ON THE ISSUES.org Calls his record Liberaltarian, argue with them a$$hole!


67 posted on 03/11/2014 9:49:15 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Beagle8U

Do you support the TEA Party? They are an awfully libertarian bunch what with all there smaller government and lower taxes stuff...

Bigger government RINO water cooler is over there——>
You’ll know you are there when you see John McCain chatting up Joe Biden...


68 posted on 03/11/2014 9:50:10 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: Beagle8U

ACU says he’s got a 100% conservative rating.

I know a libertarian stole your girlfriend, but your derangement syndrome is getting the better of you.


69 posted on 03/11/2014 9:51:19 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: Beagle8U

DUH! I think Rand Paul knows who he is more than you do. I like to go straight to the source, yes.


70 posted on 03/11/2014 9:52:19 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Dead Corpse

Don’t be fooled by Rand Paul’s rhetoric. He’s an isolationist, exactly like his old man. And for that reason he will never get the GOP nomination.


71 posted on 03/11/2014 9:52:54 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("I got a good Christin' raisin', an 8th grade education, ain't no need ya'll treatin' me this way")
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To: NKP_Vet

I’m not a fan of us being the World Police. He’s also no where near what his nutbag Father is...


72 posted on 03/11/2014 9:54:51 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: Dead Corpse

I’m done with you punk, you’re too stupid to read a nonpartisan political rating site.


73 posted on 03/11/2014 9:54:53 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Beagle8U

Punk? Lol...

You started out without a valid argument, and are ending with a personal attack.

You are laughable.


74 posted on 03/11/2014 9:56:54 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: Dead Corpse

“Then again, anyone who espouses a smaller, more Constitutional role for the FedGov is aligning with libertarian philosophy whether they are cognizant of the idea or not.”

Very true, and many are not cognizant of that. I have had people on here tell me that they are for limited government, but that they arrive at this position without reliance on any libertarian philosophy. That’s a bit like saying an apple hit the ground because it fell out of a tree, and that gravity had nothing to do with it.

The main reason the Pauls are not Libertarians is the issue of abortion. The Libertarian Party alienates a lot of people (me, for instance) with its position, which is essentially no different from that of the Democrats. They are also to the Right of the LP on immigration, and Rand is on foreign policy.


75 posted on 03/11/2014 9:58:19 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: faucetman

And I never said he did “ultimately support open borders”. Actually, I said he proposed his 3rd way plan in such a fashion that he could end up voting against open borders. His plan is never going to be implemented, never was, and was put forth as a means of separating himself from the GOP on the issue without having to vote with the Democrats. He gave himself cover for the inevitable “racist” charge, while getting to oppose the final bill. It was a good political move, but I would have preferred that he simply lead against the bill.


76 posted on 03/11/2014 10:08:17 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: Dagnabitt

Rand Paul is for sensible, rational, solutions to the illegal problems. The so called anti-amnesty crowd is bent on self destruction. They want their “pound of flesh” no matter that it is counter productive to their goals, (winning elections).

Being “smart” is more productive than being “angry”.

Compassion will get you more than vengeance and retribution.

Dealing rationally with something that has already happened is far superior to trying to put the genie back in the bottle, the bus back in the garage, the horse back in the barn, the train has already left the station.

“They’.......re, here........” and they are NOT going back. Get over it. Deal with it.


77 posted on 03/11/2014 10:11:21 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Dead Corpse

Rand Paul is for the legalization of all drugs. Rand Paul squirms around like a fish out of water when asked about homosexual “marriage”. He never gives a definitive answer saying he’s for real marriage. Ron Paul voted to allow sodomites in the Armed Forces and I guarantee you his son would have voted the same way. I am also not for being the world’s policeman, but Rand Paul is a libertarian mascarading as a republican. Don’t forget who his father is and who he supported last year for president. His name was Ron Paul.


78 posted on 03/11/2014 10:18:00 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("I got a good Christin' raisin', an 8th grade education, ain't no need ya'll treatin' me this way")
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To: NKP_Vet

“Rand Paul is for the legalization of all drugs.”

That is something of a revelation. Can you support that statement? I’ve never seen that anywhere.


79 posted on 03/11/2014 10:27:03 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: Dead Corpse
Do you support the TEA Party? They are an awfully libertarian bunch what with all there smaller government and lower taxes stuff...

Actually the tea party is more made up of social conservatives and the religious right, not social liberals and libertarians, and atheists are the most anti-tea party people out there.

Social liberals are overwhelmingly big government liberals, and social liberalism naturally leads to larger government, and more liberal voters desiring ever more.

80 posted on 03/11/2014 10:27:35 AM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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