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How California Voters Raised the Price of Eggs Across America
Frontpage Mag ^ | 03/08/2014 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 03/08/2014 11:22:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind

In 2008, California voters endorsed Proposition 2 which banned the confinement of animals. California egg producers had to ensure that chickens had enough room to move around which negated so-called “factory farming” and would end up raising the price of eggs by 20%.

Obviously this was a problem for California agriculture which would have trouble competing on price with free agriculture. And there’s only so much of a market for fair-trade free-range organic chickens lovingly raised in a Quaker school by social justice experts on a strict diet of granola and NPR broadcasts.

And so California’s reds decided to instead raise the price of eggs across America. Sounds fair, right?

Missouri Attorney General Chris Koster (D) said Tuesday morning he has filed a federal lawsuit against the state of California over the Golden State’s new regulations on enclosures that house egg-laying hens. The regulations, Koster alleges, violate the constitution’s Commerce Clause.

California voters in 2008 passed a ballot initiative that require larger enclosures for egg-laying hens. Farmers in California worried the new rules, which would increase their costs, would put them at a competitive disadvantage with egg farms in other states, so the state legislature passed a measure in 2010 to require out-of-state producers to comply with California rules.

That, Koster says, is unfair to his state’s egg producers.

“If California legislators are permitted to mandate the size of chicken coops on Missouri farms, they may just as easily demand that Missouri soybeans be harvested by hand or that Missouri corn be transported by solar-powered trucks,” Koster said in a statement.

California farmers must begin complying with the cage law beginning in 2015, under the terms of Proposition 2. The legislature requires out-of-state farmers to begin complying with the same rules by the end of that year.

Koster’s office estimated that Missouri egg producers would have to pay $120 million to expand the size of their coops, and that production costs would rise 20 percent.”

That’s the whole point. The left can’t compete on product or price, but it can kneecap everyone else as long as it has control over populous states. Businesses and individuals can flee California, but they can’t escape its regulatory creep.

The country is awash in ballot initiatives and legislative efforts to increase regulation of agriculture. Maine and Connecticut have passed GMO labeling laws, although they won’t go into effect until other states in the Northeast have passed labeling laws as well. Florida has laws outlawing the most common method of pork production. Several states have outlawed small chicken coops, and states have also banned the sale of foie gras and shark fins. Only California has had the chutzpah to impose the preferences of that state’s voters on the rest of the country.

Make no mistake about it, if egg prices increase by 20 percent, people who face tight budgets at the grocery store will suffer.

But the people who make these laws won’t and California voters have become mindless stooges of the left. And if you buy your eggs with EBT cards, you don’t tend to care how much they cost because you aren’t paying for them anyway.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Florida; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: califronia; egg; florida; food; foodsupply; inflation; missouri
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1 posted on 03/08/2014 11:22:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind; xzins

Men are supposed to treat animals with a modicum of respect before they kill them and eat them. I don’t think this is as much a liberal versus conservative issue as it is a humanitarian issue.

Caging chickens 24 hours a day for their entire lives, just doesn’t seem to me to be the way that God intended that these creatures be treated. God gave men Men stewardship over the beasts of the field, but that does not give men the moral right to abuse them.

Yes the cost of eggs has gone up, but it never affected me because I always bought cage free eggs. And guess what, the price of cage free eggs has gone down!


2 posted on 03/08/2014 11:29:23 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: SeekAndFind
And if you buy your eggs with EBT cards, you don’t tend to care how much they cost because you aren’t paying for them anyway.

That can't be right. Unless EBT allowances are raised, these requirements mean that food stamp users get less food for their EBT dollar.

3 posted on 03/08/2014 11:30:56 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yep, the article mentions Florida and pork production. Several years ago, the FL constitution had Amendment X added which gave pregnant pigs rights. My question at that time was, how can you tell if a pig is pregnant or just fat? Shouldn’t there be a state agency running around giving pregnancy tests to piga to make sure their rights aren’t being violated. (With sarcasm in my voice, of course.). My solution was “Let’s just eat ‘em instead”.


4 posted on 03/08/2014 11:31:45 AM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: P-Marlowe

I agree with you there. Why do we allow the liberals to take the high road in matters such as this? No conservative that I know would go for animals being abused in any way and the idea of chickens being cooped up in a cage their entire lives just so that they can produce eggs more efficiently sickens me.


5 posted on 03/08/2014 11:32:24 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SeekAndFind

Mine are free from the coop. Just requires a small amount of upkeep.


6 posted on 03/08/2014 11:32:42 AM PST by barmag25 (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? NO!!!)
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To: P-Marlowe

I whole-heartedly agree with you.


7 posted on 03/08/2014 11:32:59 AM PST by EricT. (ARBEIT MACHT FREI- now get back to work you taxpaying peasant!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh my gosh. Any idiots who think eating reproductive parts of sick, penned in, beak removed chickens is decent nourishment, go for it. Anyone who wishes to save a buck by eating from sick animals, have at it.

Even “free range” is bull. They still pen in the chickens so tightly they can’t get to the tiny open door that exists to get that label of free range. It’s a scam. Their feed makes the eggs contaminated as well. These are sick birds. Smart humans wouldn’t eat from them, even if it is cheaper at the supermarket.

Food literally becomes you. Skimp on other things. Never on your sources of protein, unless you love neurological diseases and cancer.

Healthy eggs are pastured (organic feed preferable). Yes, they cost more. Sick, poorly fed animals are cheaper to eat. But healthy animals roaming in fields, eating bugs and bits of grass and rocks, along with decent feed, make the healthiest food on the planet — their eggs!


8 posted on 03/08/2014 11:33:38 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Zhang Fei

“...food stamp users get less food for their EBT dollar.”

You mean just like the rest of us? Just damn!


9 posted on 03/08/2014 11:35:13 AM PST by beelzepug (if any alphabets are watchin', I'll be coming home right after the meetin')
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To: SeekAndFind
California voters in 2008 passed a ballot initiative that require larger enclosures for egg-laying hens. Farmers in California worried the new rules, which would increase their costs, would put them at a competitive disadvantage with egg farms in other states

I suspect California already set a precedent with it's car emission standards.

10 posted on 03/08/2014 11:38:21 AM PST by fso301
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To: P-Marlowe

Chicken are food, don’t name your food, don’t cuddle your food, don’t play with your food. Eat your food, chicken is food.


11 posted on 03/08/2014 11:39:04 AM PST by WilliamRobert (Obama so loves the poor he created millions more.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I get my eggs from a local gal. I have my choice, Brown or green. Best eggs ever, and fresh. 3 bucks a dozen, and worth it!


12 posted on 03/08/2014 11:41:02 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: SeekAndFind

So stop shipping eggs into California. Let those fools pay 15 dollars a dozen. They voted for it, let them enjoy the consequences.


13 posted on 03/08/2014 11:41:04 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: DocRock

Baby pigs are tasty roasted whole over an open fire.


14 posted on 03/08/2014 11:43:42 AM PST by WilliamRobert (Obama so loves the poor he created millions more.)
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To: Lurker

Exactly. Don’t sell in California and undercut their ass by 20% in every other state.


15 posted on 03/08/2014 11:45:17 AM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think if more people would raise their own chickens this would drive the cost down for everybody.

The whole problem of maximum birds in minimum space would be solved by the free market. And on a side note its a great chore for teaching kids to work and produce something(well the bird does the work) with seeing eggs produced then the child becomes more interested and then you can more easily teach them gardening and canning.

It worked with my daughter and now she can produce her own fruits, veggies, and eggs. That’s a skill that lasts a lifetime.


16 posted on 03/08/2014 11:45:45 AM PST by barmag25 (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? NO!!!)
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Now if California is saying other states must comply whether they sell in California or not.........now we have a problem.


17 posted on 03/08/2014 11:47:12 AM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: Lurker

Yes I agree they voted for this let them supply their own eggs.
I do see a new industry, egg brokers or clearing houses where all eggs go for packaging and sale.


18 posted on 03/08/2014 11:47:29 AM PST by WilliamRobert (Obama so loves the poor he created millions more.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
green

You mean, like...

Green Eggs and Ham?

19 posted on 03/08/2014 11:48:07 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: DocRock

“Florida and pork production.”
Amusing story; I watched some farming program on bps early in the day. They showed a sow, and then the announcer said “Farmers can tell when a sow is ready to be bred, like this one. The ex came home and we watched the program again in the evening. When the sow come on, I blurted out, “That sow is ready to be bread.” Then the announcer came on and said the same thing! My ex was very impressed! Bwaaaaa! B****!


20 posted on 03/08/2014 11:48:57 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: SeekAndFind

or, quit selling to the communist, envirowackos that will soon die from an earth quake Californians.

Just pretend the earthquake has already happened and the market is destroyed because California is gone


21 posted on 03/08/2014 11:50:48 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: SamAdams76

Agreed. I have no problem paying $5 a dozen for local farm raised eggs. The yolks are deep orange, the whites are firmer, and they’re just darned good. I would never go back to mass produced eggs.

And, the law CA passed does seem to be in violation of the interstate commerce clause. I’m not sure how requiring growing conditions of another state wishing to trade with you, for example, is any different than levying a tariff. That is in essence what they are doing.


22 posted on 03/08/2014 11:51:39 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“You mean, like...

Green Eggs and Ham?”

I guess. The green ones have orange yolks and the whites aren’t white, they’re kinda yellow. The hens are beautiful birds, looking’ kinda like male pheasants.


23 posted on 03/08/2014 11:53:06 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: P-Marlowe

It is not just “eggs” that are higher due to CA.

Have you recently bought a simple plastic gas can? CARB gas cans are very expensive, and I cannot see a reason for them to be this complicated. It is all BS!


24 posted on 03/08/2014 11:54:08 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Screw CALIFORNIA. I get my eggs from a farmer down the street in North Carolina.


25 posted on 03/08/2014 11:55:37 AM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: SamAdams76

I’m in California. I always bought cage free organic eggs, because I don’t think it’s right to mistreat animals. The price of eggs didn’t go up noticeably, at least for me.


26 posted on 03/08/2014 11:57:46 AM PST by Jaxmum
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To: WilliamRobert

Nobody’s talking about naming them, cuddling them or making them pets. Reasonable people expect livestock to be treated humanely and most farmers would agree. I also think it makes a difference with the quality of the food.


27 posted on 03/08/2014 11:58:13 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SeekAndFind

Why should California, a hostile communist foreign country, have ANY say in what Americans do?


28 posted on 03/08/2014 11:59:16 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Caging chickens 24 hours a day

eight days a week.

29 posted on 03/08/2014 11:59:40 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If u can get a couple of hens, no rooster required, and you can have your own fresh eggs. chickens r the easiest animals to take care of. Of course I know not everyone is able to do this.


30 posted on 03/08/2014 11:59:54 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Welcome to Obamastan! (Mrs. Yellowdoghunter))
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To: Yaelle

I refuse to eat healthy animals. I prefer sick ones.

Think about it.

Cougars, out in the wild, pick off the sick and the lame of a herd. In so doing, they eat, and the herd becomes stronger. They are actually HELPING the herd.

I have a cougar’s instinct.


31 posted on 03/08/2014 12:01:52 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Yaelle
Sick, poorly fed animals are cheaper to eat.

I don't know if I should laugh or cry.

32 posted on 03/08/2014 12:03:15 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: P-Marlowe

I agree. God didn’t tell us to exploit the Earth and its animals without care. We are caretakers.
I don’t want to sound like a CTer but do all the anti-biotics and hormones given chickens and other animals account for the rise in things like an allergic reactions to peanuts?


33 posted on 03/08/2014 12:03:43 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: P-Marlowe

Pay for your animal rights crap but don’t force it on everyone else!!

Chickens for eggs or meat are nothing but food machines!!


34 posted on 03/08/2014 12:03:58 PM PST by dalereed
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Ameraucana chickens do lay green or blue eggs.

Many others lay brown eggs.

Most commercial producers raise chickens who lay white eggs.

The Reason? I don’t know that.


35 posted on 03/08/2014 12:04:13 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: SeekAndFind

How would they enforce it? It would require California agriculture inspectors to have inspection rights on farms in other states, wouldn’t it?


36 posted on 03/08/2014 12:04:49 PM PST by jim-x (9/11/2001 - Never forget, Never forgive.)
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To: Lurker
So stop shipping eggs into California. Let those fools pay 15 dollars a dozen. They voted for it, let them enjoy the consequences.

It used to be that such breathtakingly logical and reasonable responses such as yours would be found in the first, second or third response.

Your post was #13 -- which makes me wonder just what in the hell is becoming of good old fashioned logic and reasoning on this forum.

Well said, and of course a good Conservative response to Liberal foolhardiness.

37 posted on 03/08/2014 12:04:51 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Zhang Fei
Unless EBT allowances are raised, these requirements mean that food stamp users get less food for their EBT dollar.

I underlined the flaw in your thinking. It's not "theirs," it's "ours." They didn't earn it, but we did before it was taxed away from us and given to the holder of the EBT card.

38 posted on 03/08/2014 12:05:43 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: SamAdams76
Why do we allow the liberals to take the high road in matters such as this?

Imposing their beliefs on others is 'taking the high road'?

Seesh.

39 posted on 03/08/2014 12:05:48 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: Lazamataz
Why should California, a hostile communist foreign country, have ANY say in what Americans do?

See my post to Lurker above. Applies to you also.

Personally, I'm distressed by the lack of Conservative common sense displayed on this thread. What the hell is happening to this forum??

40 posted on 03/08/2014 12:07:47 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Balding_Eagle
Having the opinion that animals should be treated humanely is hardly "imposing your beliefs on others."

Straw man argument.

41 posted on 03/08/2014 12:10:14 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: dalereed; Lurker; Lazamataz
Pay for your animal rights crap but don’t force it on everyone else!!

Right on. Why is it the only good old fashioned Conservative common sense left on this forum seems to be from the class of '98?

42 posted on 03/08/2014 12:10:41 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: dalereed

Vegetables are what food eats. The way I see it, I eat my veggies after they’ve been processed by a food machine.

We do need to be nice to the food machines.


43 posted on 03/08/2014 12:10:42 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: SamAdams76
Having the opinion that animals should be treated humanely is hardly "imposing your beliefs on others."

Putting that opinion into law IS imposing your beliefs on others.

44 posted on 03/08/2014 12:12:08 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: P-Marlowe
Nothing but cage free organic for me. I can afford it and prefer the taste, color and avoidance of synthetic compounds.

I also believe we have a moral duty to ensure animals are not abused.

But if it were an issue of whether somebody would literally starve if hens were not cooped up in egg factories, I would reconsider my position.

I don't think that's the case here.

And CA is not forcing a Missouri farmer to conform to CA rules. That farmer is free to sell his eggs in any other state, all of which have rules too.

I know a lot of people disagree, I just wanted to state my opinion. I'll not get into an argument.

45 posted on 03/08/2014 12:14:06 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: P-Marlowe

I agree, there has to be some consideration for the animal’s living conditions.


46 posted on 03/08/2014 12:15:16 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: usconservative

It’s because we give a damn, and have for >15 years. In my case, it’s because I’m still silly, even after all these years.....


47 posted on 03/08/2014 12:16:03 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: WilliamRobert

And you don’t torture your food either.


48 posted on 03/08/2014 12:16:11 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Lazamataz

Any good recipes for road kill?


49 posted on 03/08/2014 12:17:13 PM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: usconservative
Your post was #13 -- which makes me wonder just what in the hell is becoming of good old fashioned logic and reasoning on this forum.

Read some of the other nonsense. Idiots who have no idea how to feed a country, let alone the world.

Maybe it's just a weekend thing.

50 posted on 03/08/2014 12:17:52 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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