Posted on 03/07/2014 9:28:46 PM PST by barmag25
UPDATE [12:37]: Tuoi Tre, a leading daily in Vietnam, reports that the Vietnamese Navy has confirmed the plane crashed into the ocean. According to Navy Admiral Ngo Van Phat, Commander of the Region 5, military radar recorded that the plane crashed into the sea at a location 153 miles South of Phu Quoc island.
When contacted, Malaysia Airlines declined to confirm or deny the reports, saying that the Malaysian authorities are working together with the Vietnamese government on the matter.
Meanwhile, Al Jazeera reports that China has dispatched two maritime rescue ships to help locate the missing plane.
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A marine biologist on airliners.net is suggesting that the “oil slicks” might not be fuel at all but a cyanobacterium common in the gulf of Thailand this time of year. If so, still no plane...
It’ called an opinion bigdaddy...which I believe I plainly stated.
The basis for that “opinion,” bigdaddy, is reports that the aircraft’s transponder, while still communicating, indicated that the aircraft dropped precipitously, over a 600 ft., in a few seconds, and veered sharply off course. Then...went dead completely, before any voice communications could be heard.
I watched them talk about this on Fox News late last night.
Having been involved earlier in my career with aircraft design at Vought Aeronautics, and knowing about the 777’s excellent redundancy, safety record, and design...and also knowing that mid flight at 35,000 feet is far and away statistically the safest part of the flight (ie no landing or take-off stresses, no flocks of geese that high, etc.), it is clear to me that there was a catastrophic failure of the aircraft which happened so fast that the crew was unable to transmit any warning or indication of it. Which is what that transponder report also indicated.
So, that failure was either induced from something other than the aircraft (ie. explosion, gross pilot error, etc) or induced as a result of the aircraft itself failing.
Since this aircraft had so few hours on it, and since the 777 has been designed and built the way it has with an excellent safety record...I arrived at my “opinion,” bigdaddy, that it was most likely an external cause.
And, if that is the case, again, in my “opinion,” bigdaddy, the most likely cause would be terrorism in this day and age.
So, that is how I arrived at my OPINION...bigdaddy.
You can have whatever opinion you wish, or none if it suits you.
Whatever the various opinions, I readily admit that we will all wait for a final determination. Capiche?
Have a great day.
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Don't the black boxes send out some sort of beacon when they hit water?
It might be a good idea for anybody to check marine traffic .com and see if there are a few ships in the area.
That would seem to make sense.
IF(and I’m not entirely confident in the Vietnamese officials that we are all seemingly relying on for info) it turns out to be accurate information that the oil/fuel slicks are 6-10 miles long and parallel roughly 500 meters apart, that would seem to suggest the airplane was losing fuel/oil while still in the air.
What that ultimately means I don’t know. There’s still so many possibilities.
regardless of the cause of this tragedy,do you think CNN and MSNBC will blame it on ????hmm? hey,didn’t they blame the Ukraine Crisis on Bush?(uh,when did Bush leave office?)
Yes. And the Vietnamese have already indicated as much I believe.
At this point, the Chinese, the Malaysians, the Philippines, and the Vietnamese are all sending vessels and aircraft to do the search.
The South China Sea is fairly expansive, but mostly not too deep. I believe thee weather was not bad and if it remains that way, they will begin finding more debris soon.
If there was a catastrophic failure at that altitude (and I believe current evidence points to that), as one poster indicated, the debris field is going to be large. but the black boxes for avionics and the cockpit voice recorder were designed to survive such things an when those are found, the investigators will be able to determine with fair certainty what caused the crash.
Condolensces to all of the families, friends, and loved ones of the deceased...and may God rest the departed.
I'd start to suspect possible criminal acts if both the CVR and FDR suddenly stops recording data--like what happened to Pan Am Flight 103 in 1988. If the CVR and FDR continue to record data up till time of crash, then we have to consider some sort of mechanical failure.
There was an asian missile launch in the vicinity of a plane earlier this week.
Passenger jet passed through trajectory of N. Korean rocket, South Korea says (By Jethro Mullen and Paula Hancocks, CNN updated 7:53 AM EST, Thu March 6, 2014)
Still, hard to figure out why such a well-built plane with a good track record, flown by a VERY experienced pilot (31 years), would suddenly seem to just drop out of the sky!
Depth of the Gulf of Thailand is pretty shallow. Recovery in that area should be doable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Thailand
Not a problem...the black box does have a beacon...a pinger of sorts, for underwater recovery. Air France 447’s was found. They are tough pieces of gear, and store all parameters of the flight. Too much info for a burst.
That said, even if the technology develops enough to have a thorough burst transmission, the outcome remains the same...speculation, lamestream media experts, and search and recovery.
George Bush.
I’m more inclined to think catastrophic mechanical failure and crew reaction. Rudder hard over, uncommanded flap deployment or something like that..
I do not deny that that could be the case. However, whatever happened in those final seconds, the crew did not have time to broadcast anything that was heard before all of those systems failed.
As I said from the beginning, it is purely my opinion based on the data available at the current time.
At some point they are going to get those black boxes and when and if they do, they will tell the tale.
It’s a death wish to get on an airplane with pilots with the names of Shah and Fariq. I’m not saying they crashed the plane. But I still would fly with them.
If it was one of the pilots he’s in no condition to take credit.
The puppet masters don’t want him anywhere around when big decisions must be made and talking off the cuff may be required.
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