Skip to comments.Bill to Make the Fine $0 for Violating the Individual Mandate Passes by 90 Votes
Posted on 03/06/2014 7:16:58 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
The House of Representatives passed legislation Wednesday afternoon to make the fine/tax for violating Obamacares individual mandate $0 for this year, and it did so by the wide margin of 90 votes (250 to 160). Thats 83 more than the 7-vote margin (219 to 212) by which Obamacare passed the House four Marches ago. Moreover, 27 Democrats voted for todays legislation27 more than the number of Republicans who voted for Obamacare when it passed. In all, 223 Republicans voted for todays bill, while only onePaul Broun of Georgiavoted against it. Heres the member-by-member tally for the vote.
Earlier today, the Obama White House released a 3-paragraph statement on the legislation, noting that Obamacare helps millions of Americans stay on their parents plans until age 26which, of course, has nothing to do with the individual mandate or the fine/tax for violating itand saying that if President Obama were presented with the legislation, he would veto it.
Given the wide margin by which the legislation passed the House, along with the significant level of bipartisan support with which it passed, perhaps the Senate will actually take a vote, pass the bill, and give Obama that chance. That would provide a welcome reminder to the American people of the extent to which Obamas centerpiece legislation relies upon coercion.
But it also relies on lawlessnessa fact that is becoming more apparent by the day. Within hours of threatening to veto this legislative change to Obamacare, Obama announced that he is again making an executive change to Obamacare, in plain defiance of the legislative text, the rule of law, and the constitutional separation of powers. No wonder left-leaning constitutional scholar Jonathan Turley says that we are at a constitutional tipping point and that Congress must act to stop this presidents dangerous, destabilizing aggregation of power.
Where am I supposed to find a $0 bill?
It’s the bill with Bill Clinton’s face on the front and Monica under Bill’s desk on the back.
Don't delay anything. Let the obama hit the fan NOW.
And the Senate will do what?? Pass it?? And Obama will do what...sign it??
“Its the bill with Bill Clintons face on the front and Monica under Bills desk on the back.”
I thought Slick Willie was on the $3 and 0dungo was on the $0 bill.
If Obamacare had not been another plan for bankrupted Americans and put their health at risk, as was clearly its intention, it would really have been hilarious black comedy. Even the brightest could not envision that every aspect of the thing was bogus and would need to be trashed with the hope of some day putting things back the way they were. Congress should be very, very, very ashamed for birthing this monstrosity.
The next day, he will Executive Order the amount to be changed to $2000.00 per individual, $4000.00 per family.
Pelosi, her eyes glowing with stark-mad embers of Hell, still proclaims that Obamacare will be “glorious.... glorious....”
If I get a piece of the action You can keep your doctor
I might be inclined to agree with this guy, but not when it comes to ObamaCare. It's hard to accuse a president of abusing his office when he issues executive orders to delay the implementation of a Federal law that never should have been passed in the first place.
I suspect the real reason why a "left-leaning constitutional scholar" would be concerned about this is that it's exposing this entire administration as an absolute joke -- and that more and more Americans are getting perfectly comfortable with the idea that they have no legal or moral obligation to obey the law anymore.
After hyperinflation brought on by mammoth deficits, you can just use a $100. That's what the value will be.
Why would that worry a leftie? That's what the left's all about. Course, I guess it might worry them to see the previously placid rest of the country decide those were the new rules, like they've always been for leftards.
And because the crystal ball says when a republican holds that office it is not going to go well for liberals.
That worries a leftie because the first government agency that loses its moral authority over the people is the IRS ... and Marxism doesn’t work without taxpayers.
Just look for bills with Obama’s picture on the front.
Want be long until the dollar is worth 0, just hang on to one....!
That's when they howl the loudest.
They will be in their prime.
He is completely out of control domestically. The entire world can see this. They have to move to contain him. What he does domestically, he does internationally.
They should have made the fine/tax $1.00. Then it could be considered as a revenue bill.
Its the one with Obama’s face on the front and his wife’s whatever on the backside
And those aren’t watermarks
He may be forced to, with the help of Dem senators running in red and purple states, who are very, very scared.
9$ — I like the sound of that!
I had this tag line last September.
Let him veto it. The Dems own this mess.
It’ll be the one with Obama’s face on it, just like Slick Times used to print $3 bills with Bill’s face on them. Will Zero veto it?
On the back, in Arabic letters, Bismillah arrahim warrahman...Anaa ashhadulyawm...
So now they can alter a law which is unalterable?
There is no severability clause...D89k heads...
the 27 dems who voted for it are the important take from this. they are a potential weakness to exploit.
This is where the rubber meets the road for the liberals, either they tow the political and ideology line ? or they get voted out by a angery people.
And the Senate will do what?? Pass it?? And Obama will do what...sign it??
Exactly....another wasted day of taxpayer money by the people that are elected to represent US.
Another day that we go with no answers to the IRS targeting conservative groups.
Another day Bengazi gets covered up deeper and deeper
Another day a usurper sits in office
Another day my hemp rope goes unused....
Well good. Let the people see obozo will not sign it. As he does that, he can watch his approval drop to the teens.
These clowns in Washington play the American people like a fiddle all day long.
The authority of executive orders does not trump the authority of federal law duly passed by Congress and signed by the President. As you are well aware, the President has no right to an opinion of the law with regards to its enactment nor does he have any other option but to enforce it as written. Also, as I'm sure that you know, it was codified in the body of the law that only Congress has the authority to change any aspect of the law, not the President. The degree to which he can arrogate to himself this phantom authority with no reaction from Congress is the degree that his actions threaten the principle of the rule of law in this country. Jonathan Turley is right. Remember, this country is still a Great Experiment in democracy and this a$$clown is trying to make it a failed one.
What about all the taxes hidden in Obamacare?
Have been watching the sexual cases coming forth in (around) our Military. Have noticed the media is complacent and gives only one side. The side of condemnation against and for more (victims?) to come forward <-- there's that word again. Also am noticing high ranking officers are being accused of crimes. Have no evidence one way or another on guilt or innocence yet the whole thing is starting to smell and my alarm bells are going off in my gut.
I normally don't post threads and know there are countless threads which could be started regarding sex and our Military? I want to Thank You 2nd for being patient with me. Something very wrong is taking place and I have no idea what the bottom line is. Sometimes I really want to be a nutjob conspiracist to explain something but I usually don't go there. Any thoughts 2nd? Anyone?
Until someone is fined, no one has standing to go to court to contest the constitutionality of the ObamaCare “tax”. Postponing that day until the SCOTUS balance is firmly communist is not very smart. It also reduces Democrat pain in the next election.
Have been watching the sexual cases coming forth in (around) our Military. Have noticed the media is complacent and gives only one side. The side of condemnation against and for more (victims?) to come forward <— there’s that word again. Also am noticing high ranking officers are being accused of crimes. Have no evidence one way or another on guilt or innocence yet the whole thing is starting to smell and my alarm bells are going off in my gut.
It’s the one with Obama’s face on it.
The lack of severability was going to be ignored if any part was ruled unconstitutional anyway.
This is like... oh, wait, elections, they still have guns, so, let us keep the artillery quiet for now. Shake down.
“Even the brightest could not envision that every aspect of the thing was bogus...”
Well, I’m certainly NOT the brightest bulb in the chandelier but I believed before it was ever unveiled that every aspect of it would be bogus. What possible reason was there for anyone but a ding dong doofus from Duluth to think there would be anything legitimate about it?
“Ill wire you $000,000,000,000 dollars.”
You certainly are generous, I’ll bet that if asked you would add another three zeroes to that without even blinking an eye. That would make it almost equal to my annual income.