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To: TXnMA; Alamo-Girl; spirited irish; xzins; rktman; P-Marlowe; MHGinTN; Heartlander
.... for those who have been taught (or worse, teach) [erroneously] that there must be ONLY one viewpoint.

But THAT viewpoint can only be the human viewpoint.

Tell me please, HOW that cannot involve "making man the measure of God?"

What is time from the human standpoint? Our standard units of time — day, year, etc. — are all human notional products derived from a very local frame of reference. I.e., a "day" is the time it takes for the Earth to complete one full rotation on its axis ( (i.e., ~24 hours); a "year" is the time it takes for the Earth to complete one full revolution around our parent star, the Sun (i.e., ~365 days).

Even if we were to say "a Day of the Lord is as 1,000 years," we are still using the human notional concept of what a "year" is.

A Timeless God is not bound by such notional, finite temporal units.

Just trying to get a conversation going on this issue.

Thank you so very much, dear brother in Christ, for your thought-provoking, if "controversial," insights! (I'm sure my statements are pretty "controversial," too.... But someone please show me where they're wrong.)

23 posted on 03/08/2014 12:23:31 PM PST by betty boop (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. —Thomas Jefferson)
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To: betty boop
Even if we were to say "a Day of the Lord is as 1,000 years," we are still using the human notional concept of what a "year" is.

Apparently God decided to give us a bit of understanding in how HE counts time. Why else would Peter say ....

IIPeter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing,

that one day is with the LORD as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

God is 'time' and controls time.

24 posted on 03/08/2014 12:33:28 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: betty boop; TXnMA; Alamo-Girl; spirited irish; xzins; rktman; P-Marlowe; MHGinTN; Heartlander

Yet, if God’s Spirit is eternal, and if those Spirits gone to be with the Lord — soon to be reencapsulated in a new body — are also eternal, doesn’t that at least suggest that Spirit is also timeless? Would not those intersections of the Spirit with this realm in which our corruptible bodies reside have at least the possibility of affecting a determination of time that has passed?

I’ve been in worship where an hour seemed like a minute.

Would the sacred space where Jacob had his head on a rock and dreamed of a Stairway to Heaven be affected by that Stairway as much as was Jacob? Would it not require an altar be built there eventually? And was it set aside space, sanctified space?


27 posted on 03/08/2014 2:27:32 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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