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Posted on 03/06/2014 9:11:00 AM PST by butterdezillion
These are the new images I've got, to go with the second of my youtubes, which is posted at http://youtu.be/usFBn99pJMc
In the first youtube we looked at what could be seen above the water in the video. In this new video I show footage of some more that is above water but also some that is underwater. The images on my blog are clearer than what shows on youtube, so even if you see the youtube (which I recommend, because it explains what you're seeing and gives other links as well) you might want to look at the stills to get a clearer image.
>> BUTT OUT has been suggested to you as well
Really? Point to the post.
>> drawn to this thread to insult other posters.
Go read posts 123, 134, and 135.
We’ve got images of the other passengers watching weird stuff going on with Fuddy. There’s more than what I’ve got here, even now.
I think it’s almost certain that all the passengers knew there was stuff going on.
I agree.
That pic of person with flesh colored arm horizontal and ? body part (white) angled from upper left to lower right is the wrong body type for Ms Fuddy.
that totally discredits it!
Try this:
Put that image up and write this caption:
This is the pilot and he has both hands up reaching for the surface. There's an anomaly on his left side that appears to be a head wearing a yellow apparatus.
Or, whatever it is that you think you see there. Then let the reader respond. The way you are going about this simply isn't working.
My problem with that stance is that I know I wouldn't be treading water with both arms/hands straight out in front of me, I would sink.
That pic of person with flesh colored arm horizontal and ? body part (white) angled from upper left to lower right is the wrong body type for Ms Fuddy.
I assume that is in reference to the image I have now posted several times of the person in the water which SEEMS to me to possibly be Fuddy. The 'flesh colored arm horizontal' is the sleeve of her garment which shows slight traces of the purple pattern.
The ' body part (white) angled from upper left to lower right' is the part of the yellow lifevest which fastens across the back.
I copied the labeled images from BZ's blog and posted them in this thread so they could easily be referenced. Referencing images by their label would clear up a lot of ambiguity.
Look at ZZ and ZZA. The “reflection” switched positions!
I just sent you freepmail.
Methinks it’s not labels that are needed, it’s captions. The images should be accompanied by a caption describing what we are supposedly looking at. Every now and then, there might be one where butter herself has no idea what it it, then by all means say so. But to run an entire series of images that are by no means totally clear and out of context because they are stills from a video, by our eyes and ask ‘what do you see’ is inviting an argument amongst the pingees that just goes on and on...
It’s like building an elephant by committee. One sees arms where there aren’t any, one says that’s not her...because that doesn’t look like her body. Things change in water, there are distortions and reflections. Fuddy was obese, the water pushes her abdominal tissue up into her chest, fat floats! That’s probably one reason why she died, not enough oxgen, her heart and lungs were compressed. Just imo. And we all have opinions.
butter, I think you are reading me all wrong. And that massively enlarged image of something black with a couple of yellow blobs shows me nothing. Why can’t you tell me what it is?
I can’t see anything that looks like rippling muscles or a torso or a head. Honest, I can’t.
I agree.
Particularly that an isolated frame can be of limited value without context.
Are you talking about the image Fred posted in 195?
Because I see both of his arms and they are not reaching up. His left is down by his waist and his right is straight out and almost parallel to the surface. He looks to me like someone treading water in the ocean.
your ZZ. The only way you can hope to show how anything changed positions, is the place the comparisons side by side in the one comment box. By the time one goes back to the original post here that has the images, picks up the image property, returns here to post it, the entire point of the excercise has become a PITA. What do I see? Nothing.
The arm that we can see is in Kawasaki's right sleeve is above the "reflection" in the first image, and under it in the second image.
Could it be a piece of the Aircraft that is designed to be detached as a flotation device?
Part of the seating?
HERE YOU HAVE THE IMAGE I RIGHTED. IT WAS POSTED IN YOUR COLLECTION VERTICAL. THEN YOU SEE IMAGE ZZ AND ZZA.
Both ZZ and ZZA appear to be also vertical. The blacK object with the yellow blobs is partially under water and partially on the surface. What is it? I have no idea, but it's obviously there because the person in the water is holding it... and his white shirt is throwing off an awful lot of bright sunlight.
The pilot was using a seat cushion for floatation.
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