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1 posted on 03/05/2014 7:52:46 PM PST by george76
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UN Agenda 21 at work to eliminate private property.

In Missouri they have "restocked" elk to a part of the state where they never existed.

Once they have a population established they will be able to lock down further land development in the name of preserving the non-indigenous elk.

2 posted on 03/05/2014 7:55:40 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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New Mexican Jaguar? I’ll take the 1200 sq miles.


3 posted on 03/05/2014 7:57:44 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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Let me guess, living there would hurt the jaguar’s habitat? What this really is is a set aside zone for illegals to cross the border unmolested.


4 posted on 03/05/2014 7:58:05 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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These laws are used to hamstring border patrol. So they have to get off vehicles and ride horses.


5 posted on 03/05/2014 7:58:48 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot! Introducing exotic species can lead to an environmental disaster—as when rabbits were introduced into Australia.


6 posted on 03/05/2014 8:01:03 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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Eventually the outdoors will get too deadly to visit.

As someone who likes to camp and hike alone, I’m already annoyed by the growth of the Mountain Lions.


7 posted on 03/05/2014 8:01:43 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!

O stranger, tell the Lacedaemonians that we lie here, obedient to their command.

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8 posted on 03/05/2014 8:04:59 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Mlichael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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Get ready for SSS.


9 posted on 03/05/2014 8:06:41 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (Richard Warman censors free speech.)
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The critical designation means anyone developing federal land in the area needs to consult the service to ensure it will not hurt the jaguar’s habitat

Meaning there will be no further development on federal land.

11 posted on 03/05/2014 8:22:54 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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... are setting aside...

I don't know the details of this questionable action by the feds. Since the land doesn't seem to be for public use, the 5th Amendment wouldn't apply. So the only constitutional justification that might apply is the Constitution's Clause 17 of Section 8 of Article I where the feds buy state land with the consent of a state's legislature.

But even if the feds purchased the land under Clause 17, it remains that the states have never delegated to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific power to define and protect endangered species.

So what am I overlooking?

Again, I don't know the detail of this issue.

12 posted on 03/05/2014 8:23:00 PM PST by Amendment10
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15 posted on 03/05/2014 8:31:14 PM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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16 posted on 03/05/2014 8:32:27 PM PST by DannyTN
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Since when do killers need protection? Oh, wait...


21 posted on 03/05/2014 8:48:22 PM PST by madison10
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What about the "habitat" that Obama has "set aside" for the Mexican drug cartels...


24 posted on 03/05/2014 8:56:50 PM PST by montag813
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Jaguars, my butt.. How long before 'FEMA'/internment camps pop up on this property? Watch for large, unmarked buildings and lots of barbed wire.

Or perhaps the gubmint is setting up shop to closely monitor Arizona for when the SHTF. Lots of guns and lax gun laws there.

33 posted on 03/05/2014 9:17:36 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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How about shooting all the jaguars. Nothing left to protect the feds go away, right? No, the feds will never go away. Where I live we had wonderful trout streams. The experts decided that beavers lived here 150 years ago, they should be here now. And they are. and all the trout streams are ruined. The beavers chew off young trees leaving pointed stobs which puncture the tires of any farmer who tries to work the soil. But the experts, who know nothing , think it would be a good thing if the country was restored to the way it was before we got here.


40 posted on 03/05/2014 9:24:04 PM PST by Octar
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Add the jaguar to this list.


48 posted on 03/05/2014 10:02:05 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Be a jaguar and get 1,200 square miles free of charge.

Be a human being and get billed for it.

“All men are created equal - but jaguars are better than everybody.”

Must have missed that clause.

Wolves are included, too, right?


51 posted on 03/05/2014 11:22:23 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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With any luck, the mountain lions and lobos will eat them up, and the ranchers will kill them. Enough is enough, and this government is way over the top.


57 posted on 03/06/2014 6:36:44 AM PST by pallis
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There has never been a shred of evidence that jaguars live/breed here so this is pure nonsense. On rare occasions jaguars have been seen in this area, they come up out of the mountains in Mexico. One used to be seen about once every 20 years or so until it became a useful topic to use to set aside land. Now it seems they are seen everywhere around here all the time. That is not true, there are photos of one or two taken by Warner Glenn who lives in part of the area to be protected over a period of several years. Other reports are just various people claiming they saw one, no evidence. I am not buying the idea that this should be a sanctuary of some sort.


81 posted on 03/06/2014 12:54:27 PM PST by Tammy8
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