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Darrell Issa angrily adjourns Oversight hearing after Lois Lerner pleads the Fifth
The Daily Caller ^ | March 5, 2014 | Patrick Howley

Posted on 03/05/2014 7:14:01 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

California Rep. Darrell Issa adjourned a divisive House Oversight hearing Wednesday after IRS official Lois Lerner pleaded the Fifth Amendment and refused to answer his questions.

“Seeking the truth is the obligation of this committee,” Issa said before announcing that he had no expectation that Lerner would answer his questions and adjourning the hearing.

Lerner invoked the Fifth Amendment on each question Issa asked about the agency’s targeting of conservative groups. The hearing lasted approximately fifteen minutes before Issa released Lerner.

Issa began the hearing by explaining that Lerner previously waived her Fifth Amendment rights in a May 2013 hearing and that “the committee may proceed to consider whether she be held in contempt.”

VIDEO at source.

ssa did not choose to hold Lerner in contempt of Congress on the floor of the hearing. It is unclear at this time if he will choose to pursue contempt charges.

Immediately after Issa adjourned, Democratic Oversight Committee Ranking Member Rep. Elijah Cummings angrily blasted Issa’s efforts. Issa ignored Cummings and shut off the Democrat’s microphone.

“Mr. Chairman, you cannot run a committee like this,” Cummings shouted, calling Issa’s inquiry a “one-sided investigation” and saying, “We’re better than this as a country.”

“I am a member of the Congress of the United States of America, and I am tired of this,” Cummings shouted.

“Close it down,” Issa said, releasing Lerner and angrily cutting Cummings’ microphone.

Issa noted in his remarks that Oversight has “conducted 33 bipartisan, transcribed interviews with employees from the IRS” but that the IRS “continues to withhold” some of Lerner’s emails that Issa requested in his three separate subpoenas for documents.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: americans4prosperity; irs; issa; kochbrothers; loislerner; teaparty
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1 posted on 03/05/2014 7:14:01 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
...TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR
2 posted on 03/05/2014 7:15:54 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Issa is just a big bag of wind. Lerner essentially gets off. Issa won’t file for contempt..


3 posted on 03/05/2014 7:16:14 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: Doogle
...TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR

It's time...

4 posted on 03/05/2014 7:18:37 AM PST by GOPJ ("Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), always currying favor with the press...."(nailed) - William Bigelow)
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To: Doogle
all in favor say AYE AYE !!


5 posted on 03/05/2014 7:18:39 AM PST by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“I am a member of the Congress of the United States of America, and I am tired of this,” Cummings shouted.

Well, I am a citizen of the United States of America and it’s unprintable how tired I am of the whole bunch in D.C. (exceptions noted), as well as Ms. Lerner.


6 posted on 03/05/2014 7:18:48 AM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear. -Glenn Beck)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

F.U.L.L.


7 posted on 03/05/2014 7:19:04 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: cardinal4

“Issa is just a big bag of wind. Lerner essentially gets off. Issa won’t file for contempt..”

Issa is working up enough strength to slap Lerner on the wrist. Where are the political heavyweights who are not afraid to stand against tyranny?


8 posted on 03/05/2014 7:19:23 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: smokingfrog
Issa ignored Cummings and shut off the Democrat’s microphone.

bravo!!

9 posted on 03/05/2014 7:20:57 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What the... Issa didn’t figure this out ahead of time?? Exactly what kind of two-bit circus is the GOPe running here?

Are you kidding me?


10 posted on 03/05/2014 7:20:59 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: cardinal4

“Issa is just a big bag of wind. Lerner essentially gets off. Issa won’t file for contempt..”

And what would filing for contempt gain?


11 posted on 03/05/2014 7:21:38 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why isn’t this woman in prison? In fact, why are any of them, from Obama on down, still walking around free?

Congress is just a rubber stamp for the communist regime.


12 posted on 03/05/2014 7:22:44 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I'm sick of Issa. He's like a barrier war from anything actually getting accomplishes. He has a hearing, whines about everything that's wrong, then buries it.

Get it folks? Issa has not been our friend. Lerner belongs in jail.

13 posted on 03/05/2014 7:23:20 AM PST by grania
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To: All
Immediately after Chairman Issa adjourned the hearing, Democrat Member Rep. Elijah Cummings angrily blasted Issa’s efforts.....

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WHO KNEW? The IRS (a tax-funded L/E agency) takes its marching orders from Democrats. Other govt agencies were sicced on conservatives---the FBI, ATF, the IRS, and OSHA were sicced on Catherine Englebrecht, who was harassed on numerous occasions, as she valiantly tried to improve the US voting system.

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DEMS STOOP TO CONQUEUR--order IRS to act (to save their seats)
by Alexander Bolton, The Hill, 2/13/14

Senate Democrats facing tough elections this year want the IRS to play a more aggressive role in regulating outside groups expected to spend millions of dollars on their races. In the wake of the IRS targeting scandal, the Democrats are publicly prodding the agency instead of lobbying them directly.

Dems are also careful to say the IRS should treat conservative and liberal groups equally, but they’re concerned about an impending tidal wave of attack ads funded by GOP-allied organizations. Much of the funding for those groups is secret, in contrast to the donations lawmakers collect, which must be reported publicly.

One of the most powerful groups is Americans for Prosperity, funded by the billionaire industrialists Charles and David Koch. It has already spent close to $30 million on ads attacking Democrats this election cycle.

“If they’re claiming the tax relief, the tax benefit to be a nonprofit for social relief or social justice, then that’s what they should be doing,” said Sen. Mark Begich (D), who faces a competitive race in Alaska. “If it’s to give them cover so they can do political activity, that’s abusing the tax code. And either side."

Asked if the IRS should play a more active role policing political advocacy by groups that claim to be focused on social welfare, Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) responded, “Absolutely. Both on the left and the right,” she said. “As taxpayers, we should not be providing a write-off to groups to do political activity, and that’s exactly what we’re doing.”

Shaheen called the glut of political spending by self-described social welfare groups that qualify under section 501(c) (4) of the tax code “outrageous.” Shaheen is in a good position now but could find herself embroiled in a tight campaign if former Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass) challenges her.

Sen. Mark Pryor (Ark.), the most vulnerable Democratic incumbent, said the IRS has jurisdiction over 501(c)(4) groups, as well as charities, which fall under section 5/01(c)(3) of the tax code and sometimes engage in quasi-political activity.

“That whole 501(c)(3), 501(c)(4) [issue], those are IRS numbers. It is inherently an internal revenue matter,” he said. “There are two things you don’t want in political money, in the fundraising world and expenditure world. You don’t want secret money, and you don’t want unlimited money, and that’s what we have now.” --SNIP--

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MOMENTS TO REMEMBER AT THE VOTING BOOTH

<><> Seven US Senators ask the IRS to “Investigate” political opponents....

<><> Elijah Cummings led the Democrat pack in smearing patriot Englebrecht....

<><> Obama said Tea Parties were a "threat to democracy."

14 posted on 03/05/2014 7:23:20 AM PST by Liz
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To: grania

I agree that Issa is worse than worthless, because he fails to exercise the options at his disposal. He’s a chicken. Today’s hearing proves that he’d rather run than fight.

Issa = Idiot.
Cummings = Democrat, Idiot


15 posted on 03/05/2014 7:25:14 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: txrangerette

Block and Stop Cummings doing his best to protect Obama


16 posted on 03/05/2014 7:26:28 AM PST by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: Obadiah
What the... Issa didn’t figure this out ahead of time?? Exactly what kind of two-bit circus is the GOPe running here?

Your comment bears repeating over and over again.

(If anyone thinks this is going anywhere, see Issa's Fast and Furious results.)

17 posted on 03/05/2014 7:28:00 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Sounds to me like Lerner’s lawyer lied his effing arse off. He will likely go to jail before she does.


18 posted on 03/05/2014 7:28:04 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Plead the 5th, or heart attack?”

“Plead the 5th, or heart attack?”

“Plead the 5th, or heart attack?

“...Alex, I think I’ll go with ‘Plead the 5th.’ for a hundred.”


19 posted on 03/05/2014 7:28:40 AM PST by moovova
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt,
but protects the corrupt from you -
you know your nation is doomed."

-Ayn Rand


20 posted on 03/05/2014 7:29:02 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: bigbob

He’s worthless because, the powers that be have the goods on him. As well as anybody else that may be able to anything..
Every one of them are Co-Opted.


21 posted on 03/05/2014 7:29:09 AM PST by BigpapaBo (If it don't kill you it'll make you _________!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Then assert a special PROSECUTOR!!!!


22 posted on 03/05/2014 7:29:30 AM PST by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: Obadiah

They are going through the motions.
They knew she wouldn’t testify.
But it makes Obama look bad that she won’t.
They can’t hold her in contempt if they don’t have a hearing.
They can’t jump to prosecution if they haven’t at least tried to get the answers in a hearing.


23 posted on 03/05/2014 7:29:38 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Oooo... Issa is angry.

Lerner better watch out.

Sternly-worded letter to follow!
24 posted on 03/05/2014 7:30:42 AM PST by servo1969
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I love it. Obama is out there saying nothing criminal happened and we have Lerner taking the Fifth. I love it.


25 posted on 03/05/2014 7:31:35 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

these hearings are always scripted.

was he really upset or was it just an opportunity to be seen as upset.

Given the DC insiders of both parties who hate the fact the “little people” are speaking up, is anything ever going to come of this?


26 posted on 03/05/2014 7:32:03 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Shocked! Just shocked!

So, Daryl, what are you going to do? Whine and complain?


27 posted on 03/05/2014 7:33:13 AM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
" “the committee may proceed to consider whether she be held in contempt.” "

What a... well never mind.

The fact that he wasn't prepared to hold her in contempt right there on the spot tells the entire story.

The guy is a Republican windbag and it's a mistake to put any more stock in him at all.

He's a do-nothing son of a bitch, which is why he was put in the position he's in.

28 posted on 03/05/2014 7:33:50 AM PST by OKSooner ("As the riders went on by him, he heard one call his name...")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

She should have been held in contempt (if possible) and taken away in irons.


29 posted on 03/05/2014 7:33:51 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

30 posted on 03/05/2014 7:34:19 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

pathetic


31 posted on 03/05/2014 7:34:50 AM PST by Pietro
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Lois Lerner waved her 5th Amendment rights. It has been determined that she did so. Yet she still claims it allows her to refuse to answer any questions.

Why hasn’t she been found in contempt? How about a fine? Arrest?

So, let me make certain I understand...

If you, as a former government employee, are ever summoned to appear before Congress during an investigation you can just go in, tell them all to suck it and walk out.

Have all the people who have appeared before Congress in past been aware of this rule? I guess they are now.


32 posted on 03/05/2014 7:35:20 AM PST by servo1969
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To: fatnotlazy

“Why isn’t this woman in prison? In fact, why are any of them, from Obama on down, still walking around free?

Congress is just a rubber stamp for the communist regime”

Tell us exactly how Congress is going to put them in jail now?


33 posted on 03/05/2014 7:38:06 AM PST by MCF
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To: BigpapaBo

I don’t know if that’s true or not, but if you’re right - then they are only shadows of real men and a disgrace to the office they hold.


34 posted on 03/05/2014 7:38:13 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
..TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR

Time for what? We already lost and America is in the shi! can. Issa is a pus and Lerner should be in jail. When we no longer have a responsible Government and both Democrats, Republicans, and Independents are in the crap hole we are finished. Forget 2014, America is finished without a civil war and tar and feathers would be to light.

35 posted on 03/05/2014 7:38:27 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Another show trial. Contempt would have been the move here. Cutting funding to the IRS would have been another move, and one I’d think would be pretty popular with the American people.

The targeting, which on a bipartisan basis, is something nobody wants in general, since one side will use it on the other, and vice versa.

You use this as the wedge for a flat tax of 10 percent, and you move on. Everyone pays it - 10 percent - no deductions.

Game over.


36 posted on 03/05/2014 7:38:29 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: cardinal4

What’s the rush? That will be for closer to election.


37 posted on 03/05/2014 7:40:33 AM PST by MCF
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Dave Chappelle vs Louis Lerner ‘Pleading The Fifth!’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP0TdQ1uCKI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

“I plead the fif!”


38 posted on 03/05/2014 7:42:45 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Can’t wait to hear what Gowdy has to say.


39 posted on 03/05/2014 7:43:42 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: MCF

Jim Jordan just practically claimed there *will* be a special prosecutor.

Looks like they’re gonna drag this out.


40 posted on 03/05/2014 7:43:49 AM PST by txhurl
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To: stars & stripes forever
Where are the political heavyweights who are not afraid to stand against tyranny?

Alas, in the grave, I suppose.

41 posted on 03/05/2014 7:46:53 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: grania

Issa will have a hearing and nothing will happen. He’s a patsy, a stalking horse, a back bencher, a sandbagger.


42 posted on 03/05/2014 7:49:28 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: bigbob
I don’t know if that’s true or not, but if you’re right - then they are only shadows of real men and a disgrace to the office they hold.

Exactly how much evidence do you need? Where have you been the past five years? What was the outcome of Issa's much ballyhooed "Fast and Furious" investigation? Geez, get real!

As someone said above, this is nothing more than kabuki theater.

43 posted on 03/05/2014 7:51:29 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: Rusty0604

Greta will likely have him on tonight .... she has no patience for this mess either, so between the two of them, they should be hopping mad and “spitting nails”. Last time I heard Gowdy comment on this, he said Lerner could ‘save herself or go down in flames’. The problem is, SOMEBODY needs to grab the blow torch and turn the thing on ... it’s not going to be Issa.


44 posted on 03/05/2014 7:52:15 AM PST by Qiviut (It's hard to be a donk if you're sane & it's hard to be a pubbie if you have any integrity.)
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To: txhurl

Issa and Lerner have made a mockery of Congress.


45 posted on 03/05/2014 7:57:21 AM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: OKSooner

The committee has to vote on it, and he’s not going to do that with the cameras running. Members need to be prepared for the vote. We’ll see what happens behind closed doors.

Excellent Kabuki. Everyone knew what was going to happen ahead of time. Only surprise was to Cummings when the gavel hit the desk before he could get started on his “procedural question.”


46 posted on 03/05/2014 8:01:11 AM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand

Herman’s Hermits Parody “ I’m Pleading The Fifth I Am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWecMlLAWQY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

3rd verse...same as the first.


47 posted on 03/05/2014 8:03:45 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

1.) What did the next Speaker of the House, Trey Gowdy, say at the hearing or to reporters?

2.) Why are we surprised that RINO Obamacrat Issa was surprised? DUH!


48 posted on 03/05/2014 8:04:01 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Liz
Seven US Senators ask the IRS to “Investigate” political opponents....

Yep and my Senator Merkeley from Oregon is one of them. I wrote him a few days ago demanding Harry Reid resign calling ALL negative health care stories lies.

I then proceeded to nuke him again about pushing the IRS to restrict free political speech. I told him I guess I will be audited by the IRS for criticizing him, as we are not allowed to criticize the D's ever again!

49 posted on 03/05/2014 8:07:31 AM PST by thirst4truth (Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point.)
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To: Qiviut

I wish he had Issa’s position.


50 posted on 03/05/2014 8:09:59 AM PST by Rusty0604
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