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Court skeptical of IQ scores in deciding execution
Associated Press ^ | Mar 3, 2014 12:27 PM EST | Mark Sherman

Posted on 03/03/2014 9:53:30 AM PST by Olog-hai

The Supreme Court appeared likely Monday to say that states can’t rely on intelligence test scores alone in borderline cases to determine that a death row inmate is mentally able and thus eligible to be executed.

The justices heard arguments on a snowy morning in a challenge from a Florida inmate who says there is ample evidence to show that he is mentally disabled and protected from being put to death, even though most of his IQ scores have topped 70.

That score is the widely accepted as a marker of mental disability, but medical professionals say that test results have a margin of error and in any case are just one factor in determining mental disability. …

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: deathpenalty; iq; scotus; statesrights

1 posted on 03/03/2014 9:53:30 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
a Florida inmate who says there is ample evidence to show that he is mentally disabled and protected from being put to death

This shows enough IQ to me.

2 posted on 03/03/2014 9:54:58 AM PST by sr4402
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To: Olog-hai

If my life was on the line, I’m sure I could test out at 65 or so, especially if I had library access and could research Sanford-Binet or whatever test they use.

Heck I can get witnesses right now who will swear that even 65 is optimistic for me (hear that, peer reviewers?).


3 posted on 03/03/2014 9:58:52 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Olog-hai

If your life depended on it, do you think you could score below 70 on an IQ test?

I’m sure I could.


4 posted on 03/03/2014 9:59:11 AM PST by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: MAexile

Maybe he’s not smart enough to figure out how to score lower.


5 posted on 03/03/2014 10:03:18 AM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: Olog-hai

"70 ??
Why that's like a 'C-'!
Got lots of those in school and look at me!"

6 posted on 03/03/2014 10:08:09 AM PST by kidd
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To: Olog-hai
"The Supreme Court appeared likely Monday to say that [, hey, we're the Supremes! We get to make the effin rules up as we go along!]

Corrected.

7 posted on 03/03/2014 10:21:14 AM PST by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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8 posted on 03/03/2014 10:25:15 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Olog-hai

I thought the left’s position was that IQ tests were culturally and racially biased and were invalid on that account. Now they’re saying these invalid tests must be given weight in deciding sentences? I’m stunned...not.


9 posted on 03/03/2014 10:26:26 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Olog-hai

More proof-positive that the elites are in the process of administering a death sentence to the death penalty.

Sure, it’s on the books and you can impose it. But with endless rounds of appeals on issues like this, plus the fact that pharma won’t sell you execution drugs anymore, and it’s becoming clear death row inmates are all going to die of old age.


10 posted on 03/03/2014 10:46:18 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Olog-hai
There is a major incentive for "inner city" students who see a possibility of being arrested, to purposefully do badly on any IQ tests they are given at any age, and for their parents to coach them to do so.

Plus, being classified "mentally disabled" can result in more welfare benefits.

11 posted on 03/03/2014 10:49:43 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Olog-hai

If that works we could decide that most of our government is too stupid to govern.


12 posted on 03/03/2014 10:49:53 AM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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To: Olog-hai

A quick test would be to toss a hard object at the guy’s head without warning. If he doesn’t react fast enough to catch it, he get’s a bruise and a life sentence. If he catches or deflects it; he avoids a bruising, but stays on death row.

There’s a fairly high correlation between reaction time and IQ as measured by psychometric tests. That’s because both IQ (as we understand it) and RT depend on speed of information processing.


13 posted on 03/03/2014 10:57:31 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Olog-hai
Further to my #13, the correlation between IQ and reaction time is why I know for certain that Muhammad Ali's IQ was a lot higher, than the 78 score that got him out of the draft.
14 posted on 03/03/2014 11:05:20 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

If he gets hit and claims it was bad of you to throw the object then he understands right from wrong.


15 posted on 03/03/2014 11:57:45 AM PST by bgill
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To: Olog-hai

Anybody who can murder IS responsible. Put in an express lane, no speed limits.


16 posted on 03/03/2014 12:41:43 PM PST by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: Olog-hai
If there is enough mental capacity to operate a body and commit a murder, there is enough to execute the murderer. If released, there would be enough to repeat the act.
17 posted on 03/03/2014 1:33:32 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: sr4402

The margin of error has been long held to be + or -1. Not much of a margin, but it stands. Still too stupid, (not disabled), to know better to not repeat violent offenses. It’s not how stupid or smart one is, but how one is stupid or smart. (Modified Steven Pinker definition of intelligence.) Off with his head!


19 posted on 03/03/2014 4:02:19 PM PST by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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