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"Glory Drenched In Blood Will Pave China’s Road To Revitalization"
Zero Hedge ^ | 2/27/2014 | Dai Xu

Posted on 02/27/2014 9:51:14 PM PST by Vince Ferrer

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1 posted on 02/27/2014 9:51:14 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

“anti-U.S. powers are about to disappear in the Middle East”

.... News to me. As far as I was aware, they hate our guts more than ever,and that includes Israel


2 posted on 02/27/2014 10:00:16 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Vince Ferrer; no-to-illegals; SunkenCiv; All

Glory Drenched in Blood? Is this Catastrophism or GGG??


3 posted on 02/27/2014 10:00:37 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Vince Ferrer

Sounds like China is looking for a fight.


4 posted on 02/27/2014 10:04:46 PM PST by DB
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To: gleeaikin

Whichever, it’s a bttt for later reading.


5 posted on 02/27/2014 10:06:17 PM PST by txhurl (Young the Giant, 'It's About Time')
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To: Vince Ferrer

“The U.S. hopes to see Sino-Japan confrontation, which will result in power reduction of China and Japan”

More like an ashes reduction of Japan, with Obama making a ‘tactical retreat’ in the interests of young Trayvons or gays or some other BS the media will cook up.


6 posted on 02/27/2014 10:08:55 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: DB

Sounds like China is looking for a fight.
***Predictable. From my home page...

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Posted by Kevin OMalley to nickcarraway On News/Activism
01/12/2005 12:07:37 PM PST · 17 of 25
Here is my swag on what is going to happen in Taiwan, posted on an earlier thread,
“China Rapidly Modernizes for War With U.S.”.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285398/posts

1) The one-child policy has created a testosterone-rich generation the likes of which no one on earth has ever seen. China will have an entire army of what they call “little dictators” who have few prospects of finding women, and they will be very aggressively pushing their old-guard superiors for action on the Taiwan issue. The final straw will be that they’ll be promised wives when they invade Taiwan.

2) Their army is as much as 200 Million strong, which was the size predicted in Revelation in the Bible, called “The Kings of the East.” They can afford casualties in the range of 10 million, which is 5 times bigger than our army ever was. China has some unfinished business with Vietnam, having fought to a standoff in 1979. They might do a run through Vietnam first so that their troups are more battle-hardened and arrogant, knowing that the US didn’t exactly win there. The added bonus is they get one of the largest warm water ports in the world.

3) Taiwan has never declared independence. It’s not like the brave Estonians standing up to Russia when communism fell. They’re like an impudent child claiming to have sovereignty over China. Their fatal miscalculation is that they know they’ll need Americans to fight for them if they are in a war, but Americans will be reluctant to shed blood for an ally that didn’t have the courage to declare independence until they were invaded on an “internal dispute”. The chinese will hammer away at this in the press.

4) Chinese weapons policy has been to cycle through older generations of weaponry and stay about one generation behind the latest stuff. They sold their old silkworm missiles to the Iranians and used that money to upgrade their newer missiles, which are inferior to US missiles but they only need to be functional. The plan is to overwhelm defenses with superior numbers. No ship can stand up to 50 supersonic silkworm missiles aimed at it. They have similar tactics for other systems, such as anti aircraft missiles.

5) The chinese went up against Americans in Korea. They sent in 300 thousand infantry up against a much smaller American force. The key was that they only had rifles for about 1 in 5 personnel. So they would tell one to go as far as he could till he got shot, then the 2nd one would pick up the rifle & keep charging, and so on. Today, every one of those infantrymen has an automatic rifle. They are not as well equipped as their US counterparts but they can afford a lot of casualties. Vietnam, Iraq, Somalia and other engagements proved that you can’t replace feet on the ground with air superiority. No matter how advanced the air force is nor how many smart bombs get dropped, the US won’t be able to dislodge a standing army without sending in massive troup numbers and experiencing casualties. If our press made a big deal about losing 1000 US soldiers in Iraq, they’ll have a heydey with 500 thousand casualties. Seeing the press reaction emboldens the Chinese.

6) China is building a blue-water navy including submarines. They might be able to achieve a standoff in the surrounding ocean, limiting the ability to resupply american troups while the chinese troups will pillage Taiwan. Once America loses 2 nuclear powered aircraft carriers (with the resulting radioactive plumes), the calculation is that the U.S. will lose stomach for more fighting.

7) The trick to defeating these strategies with minimal casualties will be special forces operating in Taiwan. They will need to have the ability to direct standoff weapons fire onto individual tanks and squad units in order to be effective.

8) The most likely outcome will be that Taiwan will be a giant pile of rubble. Casualties could run as high as WWII. If China wins, it could be a Pyrrhic victory. If the US wins, it will take a whole generation to repair and rebuild. I think the Chinese view towards weakness or perceived weakness is a little bit like how Germany viewed the U.S. after we sent 10,000 men wandering in the hills to find Pancho Villa, to no avail. The Germans perceived it as weakness and went ahead with their war plans.

9 posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 9:47:37 PM by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)

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7 posted on 02/27/2014 10:13:29 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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“2) Their army is as much as 200 Million strong, which was the size predicted in Revelation in the Bible, called “The Kings of the East.” They can afford casualties in the range of 10 million, which is 5 times bigger than our army ever was. China has some unfinished business with Vietnam, having fought to a standoff in 1979. They might do a run through Vietnam first so that their troups are more battle-hardened and arrogant, knowing that the US didn’t exactly win there. The added bonus is they get one of the largest warm water ports in the world.”

Would the Lao government aid them in that endeavor? You seem very knowledgeable about Eastern military strategy. Might China go further than Vietnam?


8 posted on 02/27/2014 10:17:49 PM PST by Viennacon
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What will China do about its men who can’t get wives? Islam has been a laboratory for it for 1,200 years+. “Is polygamy the Cause of Muslim Violence?”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3126209/post

The Peoples of China were forced to undergo the cruelties of the One Child Policy because of the subordination of the social and biological sciences to technicians of the hard sciences, Aeronautical Engineers - Rocket Scientsts.

http://with-friends-like-these-who-needs-enemies.org/1_child_policy_Rocket_Scientists.html


9 posted on 02/27/2014 10:23:48 PM PST by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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Might China go further than Vietnam?
***Eventually, yes. But they’re astute observers of history. They saw how Hitler invaded Poland and rapidly invaded other countries, causing an uproar. They want the free lunch that comes with invading Viet Nam (we’ll never go back there to defend them), then picking fights with neighbors as they see fit.

The thing that sticks in the chinese craw is Taiwan. And they know they could invade Taiwan & get away with it, so there’s nothing really stopping them. I mean, do we want to send our boys to die by the hundreds of thousands to defend an island nation that has never declared independence? I doubt it, not after how we betrayed Viet Nam.


10 posted on 02/27/2014 10:25:50 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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Gotta knock off a few million of their own peeps again?


11 posted on 02/27/2014 10:29:27 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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I just don’t see our military going anywhere right now. Heck, I doubt there’d be much American appetite to go to war for Japan. Does anyone sincerely think the public (who control war policy now, as we saw in Syria) give a damn about a treaty? The masses want the government catering to them, not fighting overseas.

China would be foolish not to take advantage of a chronically weak president. In fact if they could pick off Vietnam, they would essentially trigger a domino effect, and I’m betting the governments in Laos and Burma would just declare allegiance to China.
Not sure about Cambodia, and Thailand will probably be too busy preparing for its own civil war which looks likely.


12 posted on 02/27/2014 10:30:44 PM PST by Viennacon
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It’s been about 10 years so Thailand is due for a civil war


13 posted on 02/27/2014 10:35:23 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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Thailand will probably be too busy preparing for its own civil war which looks likely.
***I’ve been hearing about civil war brewing in Thailand since I was a child. Yet they’ve stayed upright this whole time, even when Pol Pot murdered a third of his own countrymen. There is something inherently stable about Thai politics, I don’t know what it is.


14 posted on 02/27/2014 10:36:33 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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i read a whole article on this ‘yellow/red’ political divide. it’s complicated, but I think its monarchists vs. socialists or something of that nature. The reason is has potential to explode is that its very much regional, and the entire political system is now in disarray with the prime minister’s legitimacy in serious question after an election was hampered and delayed. Armed militiamen now roam Bankgkok and other suburban areas. Not sure how their economy is doing, but I get the sense any hint of downturn (a US stock market dive perhaps?) could spark a real clash.


15 posted on 02/27/2014 10:41:49 PM PST by Viennacon
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Thailand had a coup/war in 2006 so it’s not been a whole decade


16 posted on 02/27/2014 10:45:38 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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I get the sense any hint of downturn (a US stock market dive perhaps?) could spark a real clash. ***How about simply, food prices? The Math That Predicted The Revolutions Sweeping The Globe http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3126683/posts‎ Free Republic Feb 19, 2014 - Just over a year ago, complex systems theorists at the New England Complex Systems Institute warned us that if food prices continued to climb, ...
17 posted on 02/27/2014 10:47:06 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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I get the sense any hint of downturn (a US stock market dive perhaps?) could spark a real clash.
***How about simply, food prices?

The Math That Predicted The Revolutions Sweeping The Globe
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3126683/posts‎
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Feb 19, 2014 - Just over a year ago, complex systems theorists at the New England Complex Systems Institute warned us that if food prices continued to climb, ...
18 posted on 02/27/2014 10:48:12 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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That ought to do it... and I have no doubt China has the power to discretely ‘nudge’ those prices.


19 posted on 02/27/2014 10:50:32 PM PST by Viennacon
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What surprises me is that they haven’t made the move yet. They are not as aggressive as I figured they would be. The Japanese would have invaded Viet Nam by now.


20 posted on 02/27/2014 10:55:31 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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