Skip to comments.Alarm in Ukraine as Putin Puts Russian Troops on Alert
Posted on 02/26/2014 5:52:42 AM PST by kristinn
President Vladimir Putin put Russian combat troops on high alert for a drill on Wednesday, the Kremlin's most powerful gesture yet after days of sabre rattling since its ally Viktor Yanukovich was toppled as president of Ukraine.
Thousands of ethnic Russians, who form the majority in Ukraine's Crimea region, demonstrated for independence for the peninsula that hosts part of Moscow's Black Sea Fleet. They scuffled with rival demonstrators, mainly from the Tatar minority, who support the new authorities in Kiev.
With the political turmoil hammering Ukraine's economy, the hryvnia currency tumbled 4 percent on Wednesday, with ripples spreading to Russia where the rouble fell to five-year lows and bank shares took a hit.
Ukraine's central bank, which has been rapidly burning its hard currency reserves to protect the hryvnia, said it has abandoned a managed exchange rate policy in favor of a flexible currency, a senior official told CNBC TV
Moscow also denounced what it described as the rise of "nationalist and neo-fascist sentiment" in the country's mainly Ukrainian-speaking western areas, where it said Russian speakers were being deprived of rights. It has repeatedly expressed concern for the safety of Russian citizens in Ukraine.
"In accordance with an order from the president of the Russian Federation, forces of the Western Military District were put on alert at 1400 (0500 ET) today," Interfax news agency quoted Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu as saying.
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Pootie’s playing Risk while Barry is playing Candyland.
Obama will take the phone off the hook before the 3AM call comes through.
Puti’s panties in a wad?
Their goose was cooked the second Ubama drew another red line. Putin doesn't cotton to Ubama's red lines very well.
I suspect should an entry happen it will be from the south to settle any scores there first and if from the south they may move .... I know not if to the north they shall go. putin (imho) knows most of his problem is in the north. putin might open a can of worms he will not be able to ever containerize ever. putin maybe is simply thinking worms ... fishing trip. Not certain with former kgb.
my apology for saying former kgb ... putin was and is never former kgb.
2014 rhymes with 1914.
Even if he loses the Western Portion to the E.U. or Poland or whoever. It sounds like he will keep the Eastern Portion and Regain the Crimea. Which of Course houses the Black Sea Fleet.
Not a bad gain for the Ruskies.
If the ethnic Russians in Ukraine’s Crimea region decide to seek independence, I fear Europe will have a war on its hands.
Russian Army trucks in Ukraine:
Does Russia have an Embassy, Consulate, or Naval services that are adding security there. What was the destination?
Putin will have his naval base, period.
How many will die in the process is the only remaining question.
“Pooties playing Risk while Barry is playing Candyland.”
Sure he does. Draw in the brave fighters to kill them off like sitting ducks.
I have no idea, from this video it seems like a Ukrainian naval facility. A guard at checkpoint asks a cameraman what is he doing here, and cameramen asks him why do they have Russians arrived. A guard tells it is not our business, just drive away. A cameraman said he is a journalist etc.
Sounds like a good idea for political cartoon.
It seems like a naval version of BTRs used by a Russian marines (with snorkels for amphibious landing).
Really? What’s going to happen. Is the rest of Ukraine going to declare war on Russia? Who will back them? Is the British army ready to fight in Ukraine? Is there any popular support for that?
If the Crimea and some surrounding regions demand secession, Putin will likely unload some troops onto the peninsula via the naval base (no doubt to roaring approval from the crowds) as a show of strength, and the Kievan government will simply agree to let it go. It’s not worth fighting to keep people in the country who don’t want to be in it.’
I think Putin wanted Obama to focus on Venezuela while he took Ukraine. Obama supporting Maduro and the MSM not paying attention didn’t help Putin.
ROTF! That is the greatest line of all time! I wish I’d thought of it!
possible ping for your list; related to your posting that the Chief Rabbi of the Ukraine has “strongly suggested” that Jews leave Kiev asap.
Somtimes, it appears he’s playing Sorry.
I might have to put that together tonight.
The guard in a sense says more than that by saying less. He said, “I don’t know.”
Plan as I sees it: Russian dominated area breaks away from Ukraine, declares independence, Russia recognized its independence, Ukraine tries to regain lost land, Russian troops move in to protect them, Area becomes part of Russia, Move and checkmate. Ukraine becomes smaller—Russia becomes larger.
“Putin orders test of Russian forces amid Ukraine crisis”
We've got no alliance with the Ukraine. For Russia, 2014 might rhyme with 1979, when they invaded Afghanistan. If we feed a few billion a year to the Ukrainians, they'll give the Russians a run for their money, and maybe even push them back across the border. I bet our Stingers are much improved from the 1980's models. LAW's are kinda idiot-proof. There's also heaps of mothballed Soviet surplus weaponry and ammo we could buy on the cheap from ex-Warsaw Pact (now NATO) members and ship to Ukraine. Bottom line is that we get to do to the Russkies what they did to us in Korea and Vietnam all over again. We lost 100K dead in those two conflicts whereas they only lost 13K in Afghanistan. If they invade Ukraine, it's an opportunity to even up the score a little, while helping a future NATO ally out of a tight spot.
“...where it said Russian speakers were being deprived of rights. It has repeatedly expressed concern for the safety of Russian citizens in Ukraine....”
Damn... he’s taking a page right out of Hitler’s “Germans in the Czech Sudetenland” playbook...
It’s blatant as hell.
Ukrainians also speak Russian, so it's a combo of Munich and the Anschluss. Except Russia's population is only 3x the Ukrainian one, whereas Nazi Germany had 10x the population of Austria, and nobody in Austria particularly resisted, where the Holodomor is becoming a bigger and bigger issue with ethnic Ukrainians.
That game at least has mostly forward movement. Barry is playing Chutes and Ladders.
A good number of the “protestors” are neo-Nazis, and use Nazi symbols, being descendants of Ukrainians who fought with the Nazis. It is not all made up.
Ah, the ol’ “We’ve got to protect the ethnic Russians” routine.
“A good number of the protestors are neo-Nazis, being descendants of Ukrainians who fought with the Nazis”
Only communist governments punish descendants of “criminals”.
Yeah, that’s a fine idea. Lets spend Billions we don’t have, to try to create a war right on Moscow’s very doorstep, to get revenge for something over 60 years ago.
That’s some strategy there.
Sounds like someone who hasn’t been in a war in a personal way.
Well, that answers that question.
Russia will not give up the Crimea, anymore than we would give up Hawaii.
Depends on who is pushing for the fight.
It isn’t the Ukraine, or whatever the new state will be called.
Russia wants to be Imperial Russia again. Do we want war with them to stop them?
“Its not worth fighting to keep people in the country who dont want to be in it.”
I wish that was the case in the current Communist USA. If it were, I would move to South Carolina the minute the South seceded - again.
And that is the crux of the matter. The EU has created turmoil to try to gain control of gas lines. They also tried to create the same turmoil in Russia to gain control over source of supplies. They did that by backing the thugs that grabbed Russian oilfields after the collapse. When Putin defeated them, they started in with electioneering pushing societal change like with the gays, etc.
All so the EU can avoid paying market rate without drilling for gas at home.
Europe is creating misery. Always has, always will. Behind their quaint little home cities, they are the greatest evil on the planet.
Ah, the ol Weve got to protect the ethnic Russians routine.
I’m fine with and segments of those nations that vote to rejoin Russia to be allowed to do so. I wish we could let some US regions do the same so that we could be freer without them.
And Europe is being Napoleanic again, should we stop them?
Exactly. Russia would never tolerate a united Ukraine in NATO but it can live with a shrunken Ukraine in the Western alliance. After all, a country of 20 million people is a much more manageable risk than a country of 50 million. Russia accepts the eastern Europe is now part of the West but Ukraine is a part of what Russians call their “near abroad.” And ties of culture, faith and history make Ukraine part of Russia’s sphere of influence, whether or not the West acknowledges it.
Russia has no interest in annexing Western Ukraine. But at the very least it wants autonomy or independence for the country’s Russian-speaking east and south - with a special guardian reserved there for Moscow.
And you know this as fact?
While it is true that Ukraine originally welcomed the German Army as liberators from Stalin, when the SS Einsatzgruppen followed the Wermacht into Ukraine and started mass exterminations of people they called “untermenschen” (”subhumans”), the Ukies fought back viciously.
I doubt there’s much love for Nazism there.
They want to be left the hell alone for once, to guide and direct their OWN lives and fortunes.
Like ANY people that love freedom.
That’s almost the wrong question. It isn’t want does Russia want. I think the question is what does the EU want to try to grab? The answer is the Europe will only be happy if they can expand into all of Ukraine, culturally Russian parts at all. They want Ukraine in NATO, 200 miles from Moscow and Volgograd (Stalingrad). And would happily want to take over the Navy base at Sevastopol.
The EU and NATO has turned into a pure menace to world peace. Libya, Syria, and now they are spoiling for expansion in the east. And when Putin opposes them even rhetorically, he becomes the vicious aggressor.
The model is always agree with Europe, or be the aggressor. Or in the case of America, be selfish and uncaring. But either way, all must bow to Europe. Its sickening to watch the Eurothugs do their work.
“...being descendants of Ukrainians who fought with the Nazis. It is not all made up.”
Please elaborate. I consider myself to be somewhat versed in WWII history and as I recall many Ukrainians initially did offer service but were denied. Later in ‘43 when the war turned bad the Nazis forced conscription. By that time however many Ukrainians had grown to resent the Germans and had joined the partisans or were serving in the Red army. Also the UKIP leaders (who declared independence shortly after the Nazi invasion) were collectively deported to German concentration camps.
-Ukrainians serving in Soviet Army and Partisans ~ 4.7 million.
-Ukrainians serving in Axis armies ~ 90,000.
I do not think the ‘Nazi descendant’ analogy is warranted particularly considering the casualty rates on the Eastern front. Most the 90,000 either died or surrendered to Western forces so there would be few descendants in Ukraine today.
Good thing we have a Vietnam War hero as Secretary of State. He’ll show those Russians what difference it makes.