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Human Events ^ | February 25, 2014 | John Hayward

Posted on 02/25/2014 3:26:45 PM PST by neverdem

As Luke Skywalker said when he got his first look at the Death Star, “I’ve got a very bad feeling about this.” AFP reports on plans to take the U.S. Army back to pre-World War II levels – which, as you may recall, turned out to be a problem when World War II rolled around.

The Pentagon plans to scale back the US Army by more than an eighth to its lowest level since before World War II, signaling a shift after more than a decade of ground wars.

Saying it was time to “reset” for a new era, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel recommended shrinking American forces from 520,000 active duty troops to between 440,000 and 450,000.

In a speech outlining the proposed defense budget, he said Monday that after Iraq and Afghanistan, US military leaders no longer plan to “conduct long and large stability operations.”

I can’t help thinking it’s not a good idea to loudly declare that America is no longer capable of conducting “long and large stability operations.” What’s left to scare off the bad guys? They know damn well we won’t nuke them, and they’ve seen the limits of targeted precision-bombing campaigns and drone strikes. I can’t help noticing that none of the vanquished dictators of the post-9/11 era have been neatly vaporized by a smart bomb – they’ve been dragged out of holes. We’ve bagged some cave-dwelling terrorists with drones, but that’s not going to work on anyone who can afford a proper Evil Mastermind Lair.

I tend to agree that U.S. military operations should be fast and furious. We clearly do not make effective occupiers, in part because in the post-WW2 era, we no longer reduce enemy nations to rubble before occupying them. Occupation, even with the most benevolent aims, is a long hard slog that our political system is not well-suited for. It’s just not something we want to do, and hopefully it will never be necessary again.

But stripping away capability tends to invite the sort of situation we are trying to avoid. Weakness is provocative. It’s also a bit troubling that the Army seems viewed primarily as heavily-armed real estate agents by this Administration’s thinking. Trimming back force levels a bit is one thing, but these dramatic cuts – 13 percent in just 3 years – are explicitly a rejection of the previous “fight two wars at once” doctrine. I can still think of too many plausible scenarios in which that might be necessary. More to the point, I can still think of some bad apples who need to hit the sack every night convinced America can still fight on two fronts. And while U.S. military spending remains huge, I don’t see much evidence that our fellow Good Cops are planning to take up the slack from an American drawdown.

Perhaps this is a quaint additional consideration, but the Army seems like the primary interface between military and civilian culture in the United States, so making it dramatically smaller will separate military and civilian life even further. I don’t think that’s a good idea.

The Administration expects resistance to their proposed Army cuts, and they won’t be disappointed. AFP quotes Senate Armed Services Committee member Roy Blunt (R-MO) saying the reduction has the “potential to harm America’s military readiness.”

Senator Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) said the plan was a “serious mistake” that would put American lives in jeopardy. That actually seems like to be the consensus view of officials who have seen the plan, including some who presumably support it It’s a roll of dice carved from silver and bone, a gamble that nothing like 9/11 will happen again. The New York Times mentioned this when breaking the story:

The proposal, released on Monday, takes into account the fiscal reality of government austerity and the political reality of a president who pledged to end two costly and exhausting land wars. A result, the officials argue, will be a military capable of defeating any adversary, but too small for protracted foreign occupations.

Officials who saw an early draft of the announcement acknowledge that budget cuts will impose greater risk on the armed forces if they are again ordered to carry out two large-scale military actions at the same time: Success would take longer, they say, and there would be a larger number of casualties. Officials also say that a smaller military could invite adventurism by adversaries.


The proposal includes some base and air-wing closures, which will predictably face opposition from representatives of the states and districts where each base is located. And there are pay freezes and benefit cuts for troops and their families, as outlined by The Hill:

The budget includes proposals that would cut the growth of housing allowances for service members and their families and stop reimbursing renter’s insurance entirely. Subsidies at domestic military commissaries that provide military families with low-cost goods would be reduced.

Only the medically retired would escape proposed cuts to healthcare copays and increases to deductibles.

While basic pay raises will be held to 1 percent in 2015 under the budget, general and flag officers would see a pay freeze.

The budget also calls for a new round of base closings in 2017, which lawmakers have fiercely resisted during the past two budget requests.

It sure does seem like the rest of the Leviathan State whines about reductions in the rate of spending growth as “savage cuts,” while the military suffers all the actual cutting. These thoughts were on former Vice President Dick Cheney’s mind when he blasted the plan announced by Hagel, as reported by the Washington Examiner:

Cheney pointed out that Obama’s plans to cut the military were “over the top,” citing “enormous long term damage” to the military.

Cheney said Obama’s decision was made for budget reasons, not any strategic goal.

He would much rather spend the money on food stamps than he would a strong military or support for our troops,” he said.

Cheney also worried that at a time of rock-bottom American global prestige, courtesy of Obama foreign policy, these Army cuts are going to make our strategic partners question the validity of our security guarantees. His point about Obama’s use of the military as a piggy bank for domestic spending was echoed by at least one House Republican, as quoted by Fox News:

Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, warned that the cuts would hurt military readiness. And he said the country is only in this position because the Obama administration and Congress will not seriously take on cuts to entitlements.

“It’s all being sacrificed … on the altar of entitlements. This president cannot take on mandatory spending, so all we’ve done in the Congress — and this president — is basically cut discretionary spending,” he told Fox News.

A lot of this budget-slashing is only going on because of Barack Obama’s big “sequester” brainstorm, a feature of the 2011 budget deal that was supposed to terrorize Republicans into raising taxes by threatening them with military cuts. If Hagel’s plan goes through, perhaps the best that could be said is that such tactics will not work again, at least not until America’s fiscal death spiral makes having a military at all impractical, a point that will be reached within the lifetime of most people reading this.

Governor Nikki Haley describes a petulant Obama browbeating governors with sequester finger-pointing at a White House meeting, as related by CNN:

South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, whose husband is in the National Guard and recently returned from a one-year deployment to Afghanistan, blasted the Obama administration’s decision to make cuts to the reserve military force.

“It really is a slap in the face to anyone who has served over this past decade multiple times and left their life to do this,” the Republican governor said Monday. “We have active duty, but the active duty hasn’t felt the pain that the National Guard has felt, and this is not how you show your thanks.”

[...] She said the White House meeting largely had a respectful tone until the discussion turned toward military cuts at the end.

“It automatically went into an aggressive nature by (President Obama), implying that ‘many of you have asked for cuts, this is what you said you wanted…now you’re going to get it, you’re going to have to live with it,‘ Completely different change in tone,” said Haley, who’s up for re-election this year.

“It chilled the room quite a bit,” she added.

Perhaps it’s true, as retired Army general and former NATO supreme commander George Joulwan told CNN, that fiscal reality makes it necessary for us to scale back our military power: “Whether it’s smart or not is yet to be seen. But I think it’s necessary to do, given the constraints that we face fiscally within the United States.”

Is that what everyone thought they were voting for in 2008 and 2012? Are we comfortable with a level of government fiscal deterioration that’s eating away at our military muscle… knowing full well that as the government grows even more insolvent, the military will face even more dangerous reductions? Especially under this Administration or its likely Democrat successor – does everyone remember how Hillary Clinton feels about the military? Troop strength is an investment whose invisible dividend is peace, which is easily taken for granted by people on the hunt for loose change to finance other programs. The Hagel proposal marks the beginning of a process, not the end.

TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 1dontsearch; afghanistan; fakecolonels; hagel; nikkihaley; obama; paleolibs; southcarolina
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1 posted on 02/25/2014 3:26:46 PM PST by neverdem
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2 posted on 02/25/2014 3:28:32 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: neverdem

With al Qaeda on the rise
(after the undocumented Tyrant declared otherwise)
how could this be wise?

3 posted on 02/25/2014 3:33:09 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: neverdem

Meanwhile, China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran - among others - sharpen their knives and drool.

Well, handing out the cash of hard-working Americans in order to purchase the votes of the legions of Leftists with their hands out for other people’s money is darned expensive.

No doubt America can’t afford both guns and slops, both.

4 posted on 02/25/2014 3:34:04 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: neverdem

It’s time for a return of our army back to its traditional small size which is consistent both with our needs and our oldest republican foundations.

5 posted on 02/25/2014 3:36:20 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Which has made us under-prepared for every war.

6 posted on 02/25/2014 3:44:07 PM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Broi)
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To: neverdem

In a normal circumstance, I would be seriously bothered, but I think the possibility of Obama using the military against the People is high, so I am not that upset.

Still, I am sure he will reshape the military to focus on domestic discontent.

7 posted on 02/25/2014 3:45:56 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: neverdem

Zero hired Hagel for one purpose. To carry out his destruction of the USA!

8 posted on 02/25/2014 3:47:50 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: clintonh8r

That’s why we have an air force and navy. Keep them prepared and nobody’s invading the USA. England did very well for centuries without a large standing army.

9 posted on 02/25/2014 3:48:21 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: neverdem; ExTexasRedhead; xzins; F15Eagle; 2ndDivisionVet
Obama is taking further revenge on the military, but the Republicans have been letting him get away with it for years.

- In 2009, he cut the military by $330 Billion (over ten years) to help pay for his "stimulus" criminal payoff/giveaway.

- In 2012, he cut the military by another $487 Billion (again, supposed to be spread out over ten years)

- In 2013, Sequestration kicked in, and is cutting the military by about another $600 Billion (again, over ten years); the $600 Billion figure is even with the "temporary budget relief" it got last December

All those cuts overlapped. Now, Obama has ordered Hagel to slash even more.

Many Tea Party types cheered on Sequestration, even though the military (at around 17 or 18% of the entire budget) must "pay for" 50% of the cuts.

The "pivot to Asia" rhetoric is all lie and a smokescreen to divert attention from the massive cuts that the military is actually taking. Obama's DoD isn't "pivoting" to anywhere except the scrap yard and the unemployment line.

Mark my words, this is going to be a disaster for this nation. War is coming soon, between Israel and her barbarian neighbors.

The Middle East will catch fire, and oil prices will skyrocket, further ruining our economy. We may even see a previously unfathomable nuclear exchange in the world, very, very soon.

Evil nations throughout the world may take advantage and start their own wars of massive genocide and aggression.

We are long past any "tipping" points with our military- we have already started the long, hopeless fall into the abyss.

10 posted on 02/25/2014 3:54:14 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Well, if you want to compare 21st century warfare with the 18th century fine, but the fact is the Britain did have a large army. They were just scattered all over the globe, mostly made up of conscripted armies in colonized nations. But armies, none the less. Also, in the past, we were able to rely on the draft when we needed to. Do you honestly think today’s yutes are going to comply with draft notices? Do you think there would be time to arm and train them for modern warfare before we would be overwhelmed? Besides, we’re not talking about shrinking just the Army. The AF and Navy are in for it too.

11 posted on 02/25/2014 3:55:25 PM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Broi)
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To: neverdem

Why not go back to post WWI levels, so we’re totally unprepared as we were then?

12 posted on 02/25/2014 3:56:01 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: MeanWestTexan
"Still, I am sure he will reshape the military to focus on domestic discontent."

In the back of my mind, this is what I think the purpose is. Not so much the military as the instrument, but to remove a potential obstacle when the Leftists "make their move".

13 posted on 02/25/2014 3:56:19 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: neverdem
So, dividing the numbers mentioned by 8, (7 support for each combat soldier) means a reduction of 8,700 trigger pullers. That is a light division or two battalions worth of actual combat troops.

How's that for dulling the edge of the sword?

14 posted on 02/25/2014 3:59:03 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: neverdem
This SOB is about to complete what Hitler did in Germany prior to WW2. He needs the military to swear allegiance to him and one way is to threaten to cut the feet out from under them. In return, he will give them some things.

After that is done, it is complete. He can then make his move on the general population.

15 posted on 02/25/2014 4:01:28 PM PST by crz
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To: neverdem

Another 70,000 people added to the unemployment roles.

16 posted on 02/25/2014 4:03:00 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: neverdem
I'm with Cheney on this one. Domestic giveaways trump defense requirements. You know, if these turds had any kind of diplomatic competence and foreign relations chops it might be different. As it is, we need the strongest possible military to compensate for the weakest possible foreign policy.

But it really isn't about competence. 0bama knows exactly what he's doing.

17 posted on 02/25/2014 4:04:55 PM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Broi)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo


Ever hear of a BIG STICK?

In times of peace, the big stick stays ready in the corner because it WILL be needed again.

I’d prefer military spending than handouts to those who are abusing the system.

18 posted on 02/25/2014 4:06:04 PM PST by GRRRRR (He'll NEVER be my President, FUBO! Treason is the Reason! Impeach the Kenyan)
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To: neverdem

If only we could roll the size and scope of the Federal Government back to Pre-WWll levels.

We would all be much better off.

19 posted on 02/25/2014 4:06:54 PM PST by Howie66 (John Wayne McCornyn...he's just like US! Honest!)
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To: neverdem

Well . . . that should make the Birchites, Pat Buchanan, and Lew Rockwell happy.

20 posted on 02/25/2014 4:09:42 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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