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Mystery poliolike illness affects as many as 25 children in California
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Posted on 02/24/2014 5:53:49 PM PST by nuconvert

Doctors in California say as many as 25 children are suffering from a mysterious, poliolike virus that is leaving them with paralyzed limbs...

The cause of most of these cases is not known, health officials say. The average age of the children is 12.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: ca; disease; health; medicine; mysteryillness; mysteryvirus; outbreak; paralysis; polio
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1 posted on 02/24/2014 5:53:49 PM PST by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert

Climate change


2 posted on 02/24/2014 5:58:31 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Mr. K

Not climate change but possibly dirty stuff in food.


3 posted on 02/24/2014 6:01:22 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: nuconvert

Illegal aliens coming across the border carrying all manner of disease.


4 posted on 02/24/2014 6:02:04 PM PST by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: nuconvert

The borders are OPEN and polio and newer diseases
are coming in, INCLUDING weaponized diseases from Iran.

The US Congress? Could not give a damn.


5 posted on 02/24/2014 6:03:12 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: FrdmLvr

“Illegal aliens coming across the border carrying all manner of disease.”

Bingo! And it’s only going to get worse.


6 posted on 02/24/2014 6:03:27 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Veto!

that or possibly bush

or republicans


7 posted on 02/24/2014 6:03:27 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: nuconvert

Thanks very much for posting. Health/life BUMP!


8 posted on 02/24/2014 6:09:25 PM PST by PGalt
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To: nuconvert

We have had Measles here and now Polio..I blame the illegal alien population here..what next..Typhus, black plague


9 posted on 02/24/2014 6:09:57 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Veto!

Famous polio cause: dirty stuff in food. Spread the word.


10 posted on 02/24/2014 6:20:10 PM PST by Misterioso (Some of my best acquaintances are Black.)
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To: nuconvert

Don’t know here what the cause is. Many good posts on this thread as to possibles.


11 posted on 02/24/2014 6:24:40 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: nuconvert
I happen to be old enough to remember Polio, my parents fear of it every summer, and the miracle of the Salk Vaccine back in the early 50s.

But I went through all my school years with kids who wore legs braces because of Polio. That's not counting those kids that died or were too crippled to even attend school.

If this isn't Polio, I pray they find out what it is and find a vaccine quickly.

12 posted on 02/24/2014 6:25:17 PM PST by Ditto
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To: nuconvert
Another theory ... manufactured biological(s) but know not from where they would be coming from (manufacturing point) and will say again, I do not know; Am stating a theory only. The theory is based on the number of nations that hate Americans. Still everyone, I do not have a clue on this matter. May someone come up with a clue soon.
13 posted on 02/24/2014 6:29:01 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: nuconvert

Fukashima


14 posted on 02/24/2014 6:33:36 PM PST by ronnie raygun (zippy the a##clown sez..............................)
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To: Ditto

Sugar cube medicine. Even remember parents taking their sugar cube(s) too.


15 posted on 02/24/2014 6:33:46 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: ronnie raygun

Seems there would be accompanying signs if that were the cause but as stated, I do not know the cause.


16 posted on 02/24/2014 6:35:30 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals
Many good posts on this thread as to possibles.

Which ones are those? I'm still waiting for the first good comment myself. Hint: Putting up a 50 foot fence along the border won't stop communicable disease infiltration as long as legal travel occurs across it. Plus, this particular disease isn't known south of the border either: it isn't polio.

17 posted on 02/24/2014 6:36:58 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: nuconvert

Rare ‘Polio-Like’ Syndrome Strikes Small Group of California Children

An estimated 25 California children have developed a syndrome with polio-like symptoms, with five confirmed cases—three in the San Francisco Bay Area.

A new report from the American Academy of Neurology shows that a cluster of children developed the mysterious illness, which can cause paralysis of one or more limbs.

Case report author Dr. Keith Van Haren, an instructor of Neurology at Stanford University School of Medicine, said there are numerous potential viruses that can affect the spine, but few have been reported in the U.S. in recent history.

“In the past decade, newly identified strains of enterovirus have been linked to polio-like outbreaks among children in Asia and Australia,” he said in a statement. “These five new cases highlight the possibility of an emerging infectious polio-like syndrome in California.”

http://www.healthline.com/health-news/children-in-california-experiencing-polio-like-symptoms-022414


18 posted on 02/24/2014 6:37:21 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: steve86

Specially modified food shipped North? Shipping from outside via container ships? Specific toys? Too many possibles, imho. I do pray a handle on this outbreak is coming quickly.


19 posted on 02/24/2014 6:40:03 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: nuconvert

Illegals and Epidemics. Michael Savage, 1994.


20 posted on 02/24/2014 6:40:11 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: FrdmLvr
Illegal aliens coming across the border carrying all manner of disease.

If or when it is proved that our open borders are largely responsible for certain disease outbreaks in the US-that information will never see the light of day.
There are people in certain organizations and the government that would rather see epidemics in this country than admit their policies were wrong!

21 posted on 02/24/2014 6:41:06 PM PST by Larry381 ("God is dead." (Nietzsche, 1885) "Nietzsche is dead." (God, 1900))
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To: ilovesarah2012

origination point is going to be key (imho).


22 posted on 02/24/2014 6:42:53 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: steve86
legal travel

Illegal travel is ever present and persistent ... even under the guise of legal travel. Remember, not long ago there was the use of x-ray for a particular color while traveling. With the ever changing processes of nature and weaponry am surprised it has not happened before now. And then ... nothing but nature maybe is taking place but remains unknown. May this mystery be solved soon.

23 posted on 02/24/2014 6:52:54 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: All

This polio-like outbreak will be the topic of discussion first hour of Coast to Coast tonight for what it’s worth.


24 posted on 02/24/2014 6:54:35 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Kartographer; Liz

Ping


25 posted on 02/24/2014 6:55:42 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Ditto
One of my schoolmates brother was in an iron lung. I don't know ho long he survived as we moved away from the small town in Ohio. Horrendous disease.
26 posted on 02/24/2014 6:58:13 PM PST by originalbuckeye ("A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue;)
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To: FrdmLvr

BUMP!


27 posted on 02/24/2014 7:05:16 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: steve86

Yours is the first comment to correctly note that polio-like symptoms does not equal polio. Seems most commenters only read the headline.


28 posted on 02/24/2014 7:23:39 PM PST by Lisbon1940
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To: nuconvert

It sounds like either Guillain–Barré Syndrome since respiratory is compromised or Transverse Myelitis. A bunch of kids at once? I’d be checking recent vaccines as it can cause both disorders.


29 posted on 02/24/2014 7:34:21 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe

Good theory and does need checking.


30 posted on 02/24/2014 7:35:41 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals
My wife went through something like this back in 1985. In a few hours time she was a permanent quadriplegic. She showed classic Polio deformities in her limbs that were obvious by the therapist measurements hinting that at some point early in life she possibly also had Polio. Her final diagnoses was Transverse myelitis with several contributing factors such as possible previous Polio as a child in the early 1950's, a weakened physical state due to some stress in her life when it hit, and a narrowing in her spinal cord at C-5/C-6.

It took a year for a diagnoses and she was hospitalized for six months. She got use of her arms and hands back enough to feed herself and write. The Neurologist kept asking about any previous shots such as at that time the flu vaccine which was causing some patients to develop Guillain–Barré Syndrome. They ruled it out in about the second week.

31 posted on 02/24/2014 7:49:20 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe

There are comments about both GB and TM at the LATIMES version of the article.


32 posted on 02/24/2014 7:51:01 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: steve86
GB usually also hits the respiratory system hard often to the point of temporary need for a respirator so we were told.
33 posted on 02/24/2014 7:53:49 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: steve86

Meant to add that an analysis of cerebrospinal fluid would be used in diagnosis of GB Syndrome but TM diagnosis is very difficult. Cause can range from spinal injury to viral infection.


34 posted on 02/24/2014 7:56:14 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: nuconvert

We are well overdue (1918) for a nasty epidemic.


35 posted on 02/24/2014 7:58:14 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: cva66snipe

I do appreciate your information ... May this outbreak be contained soon before it spread and may this outbreak not spread. I hope your wife improved to the point she has led and is continuing to lead a life free of her illness. Prayers said for you and yours.


36 posted on 02/24/2014 8:05:47 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: steve86
Meant to add that an analysis of cerebrospinal fluid would be used in diagnosis of GB Syndrome but TM diagnosis is very difficult. Cause can range from spinal injury to viral infection.

Yea that's true because TM can have many origins including previous Polio. TM doesn't have a good of prognoses as GB as far as full recovery goes either.

We're in East Tennessee but if he is still practicing there is a doctor in Cali who used to be the Medical Director at Patrica Neal Rehab Center in Tennessee. My wife was his first case of TM. He left Tennessee and moved back to Cali a few years later.

37 posted on 02/24/2014 8:06:06 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: no-to-illegals

South.


38 posted on 02/24/2014 8:48:04 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: SgtHooper

Am not completely current on this outbreak though am reading California, Australia and Asia affected, if not more areas (planet wide).


39 posted on 02/24/2014 8:53:01 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: cva66snipe

Ding, ding, ding, you win the prize from me for the best suggestion of the night! I love reading posts by people who are actually aware of current side-effects of vaccines. Terrifying stuff!!! I know two people who have ended up with Guillain-Barre paralysis post vaccines. Just say no!!!


40 posted on 02/24/2014 9:44:48 PM PST by republicanbred (...and when I die I'll be republican dead.)
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I love reading posts by people who are actually aware of current side-effects of vaccines. Terrifying stuff!!! I know two people who have ended up with Guillain-Barre paralysis post vaccines. Just say no!!!

Guillain-Barre became known during the early 1980's due to a Swine Flu vaccine IIRC. I'm not anti vaccine. I have to take the Flu shot each year as does my wife. I have to take it due to severe sinus allergies and some neurological damage in my sensory processing system to the point of disability. I'm over 50% hearing loss as well. I also take three allergy shots every three weeks and six shots every six weeks. If not I have Asthma type symptoms. Shots mean less damage.

My wife besides being a quad has Asthma, mild Emphysema, Limited lung capacity with part of her upper torso pressing on a lung. She had her Thyroid removed recently due to cancer. The Flu could kill her and she's had bouts with Pneumonia before. Yes she takes the Flu shot and took the Pneumonia shot as well. The flu shot we take is not linked to GB. Vaccines did not put my wife in a wheelchair. She had not taken the Swine flu vaccine.

41 posted on 02/24/2014 10:15:04 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe

“Guillain-Barre became known during the early 1980’s due to a Swine Flu vaccine IIRC.”

That happened when Ford was President so it was a bit earlier.

The vaccine was rushed to market by the CDC IIRC.


42 posted on 02/24/2014 10:17:40 PM PST by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: no-to-illegals

“Sugar cube medicine. Even remember parents taking their sugar cube(s) too”

That was the Sabin vaccine. Salk came earlier.

The man forgotten man in conquering polio is Thomas Francis.


43 posted on 02/24/2014 10:25:34 PM PST by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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I was just going on known cases in my area. It was odd. About the time TM hit my wife GB hit two other persons and this was new to the Neurologist because it hadn’t shown up yet. GB like TM can be triggered by many sources but GB seems to be more linked to flu virus and flu vaccine. IOW a Flu exposure it seems could just as likely trigger it.


44 posted on 02/24/2014 10:30:42 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Ditto

Wasn’t polio the main cause/reason for them building those huge iron lung machines back in the early 60’s?

I was born in 54, and remember all the vaccines. My grandmother on my moms side had a brace and walked with a cane as long as I remember because she had had polio as a child.


45 posted on 02/24/2014 10:34:40 PM PST by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: cva66snipe

The epidemologist type dude on C2C says in the last two decades, there have been 152 polio cases in the US.

144 caused by the vaccine...


46 posted on 02/24/2014 10:37:10 PM PST by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: cva66snipe

We had a cluster of Lou Gehrig’s Disease cases in my town around 1980. Very spooky, always makes you suspect that there is a common cause but I guess it was just a tragic coincidence.


47 posted on 02/24/2014 10:40:32 PM PST by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: djf

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/60-years-iron-lung-us-polio-survivor-worries-about-new-f2D11641456


48 posted on 02/24/2014 10:43:06 PM PST by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: Pelham

It always gets me when I see some anti-vaccine crusader on the tube talking about mercury and human breast milk etc etc etc yada yada yada young, healthy parents who basically DO NOT HAVE A CLUE!!!

These diseases, polio, whooping cough. smallpox, killed MILLIONS.

Part of the reason old-time families had a lot of kids was it was not unusual for a few of them to never survive until adulthood.

This is serious stuff, and to try to make it out like some kind of new-age, kumbaya, back to nature, herbalist BS is dangerous and destructive.


49 posted on 02/24/2014 10:54:39 PM PST by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: djf
Is it an autoimmune reaction to the vaccine or the actual contagious virus? Also Polio itself can come back on a person later in life with just as bad a vengeance but not in a contagious form.

A year after my wife's TM onset the physical therapist were measuring her limbs. The abnormal measurements barely notable to the eye were consistent with mild Polio. We figure she contacted Polio likely about age 5 or before. Later at age 35 she got run down physically and was under some extreme stress when the TM hit. She was also working in a nursing home at the time.

50 posted on 02/24/2014 10:57:47 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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