Posted on 02/21/2014 8:05:27 AM PST by Innovative
Quoth Ronald Reagan: "There you go again."
There's only ONE political hope for America: CHANGE the GOP from the inside out, top to bottom and get rid of all those who resist immediate and lasting cuts in government and taxes.
Otherwise, you’re just rearranging chairs on the Titanic.
Well if we actually had two parties that represented two different political views he might have a point. What we have in fact is two parties wholly owned by crony corporate elites. So reelecting them really will not change things in DC. Cruz, Lee, Paul and a few others are the opposition to our ruling class. Attacking them lessens our chances of restoring the Republic.
If Romney had won, what would matter right now -- what we voted "against" or what we voted FOR?
If he was in office right now, Innovative, would YOU be willing to be responsible for the consequences of your actions, YOU having voted FOR him?
Two things are wholly imaginary: circular firing squads, and purists.
They are illusions, completely pretend. Very REAL and concrete, on the other hand, are angry people like you who accuse others of being purists or part of a circular firing squad.
You base your vote and political strategery on a lot of imaginary, pretend things. I used to be right there next to you, so I understand pretty well your feelings. I once shared them, including your anger.
However, time wised me up: when you depend on imaginary things to achieve an outcome, the outcome forever remains elusive.
You did make a very intelligent statement: that you wished people would start taking responsibility for the consequences of their own actions.
I DID take responsibility for the consequences of my voting approach, said consequence being the Republican party driven so far to the left that we ended up with literally a functional statist Democrat as a Republican presidential candidate. I took responsibility, because I realized it was a consequence of how I had voted for decades.
When are YOU going to practice what you preach?
/johnny
Because I am not recommending it as a strategy or a classic approach or anything at all except as an example of how one particular and critically important election -- the last presidential one -- could have gone differently if it weren't for those who thought with the best intentions that the enemy was still outside the gates. Indignant conservatives were wrong about that, and wrong to sit out the election as you can now see, if you have the eyes to.
Going forward, you appear to be looking for a simple solution to a highly complex problem. How I wish I could give you one. When the conservative side is on the verge of extinction and persecution, conservatives cannot afford to rule out a "lesser of two evils" choice if it presents itself at the ballot box, when the rubber has already hit the road, the shots have already been called, and it's that or nothing. Retreating at that point can't be called "principled," just as you couldn't if you believe killing is a sin but you have a house full of children and an armed intruder breaks in and starts shooting.
You have a nation to defend. Don't be above the horror of war.
It's not going to work. If you run liberals, you will lose.
/johnny
We’ve had plenty of these discussions since the last election, but here’s my take on it:
Romney lost because he was a lousy strategist. He thought he could turn to the left, pick up some moderate to liberal voters and still keep the social conservatives.
He failed in both areas. He lost the social conservatives.
The moderate to liberals went for the hard core liberal Barack Obama rather than the on-again/off-again liberal, Mitt Romney.
His loss is entirely on his own failed strategy.
Albion, you talk about “if you have the eyes to see.” It’s so incredibly ironic.
Didn’t and won’t go into what Sowell sezs. Because he won’t offer this.
Once the GOPES (gop elite snobs) decide to take Obama to task when Mr Zero decided to use the “bully pulpit” to portray his black constituency as victims of racism. And admit that move was strictly designed to protect him from any impeachment hearing. But has resulted in murders of other races not just whiteys but hispanics and asians as well. Which he and the entire political opposition believe serve them otherwise they would distance themselves from it .
Or even hint that the political opposition known as the democrat (in name only) doesn’t believe in God let alone the 10 commanmdments.
We will know they’re serious.
Reagan often said that conservatives have simple solutions to complex problems --not easy solutions, but simple ones. Reagan was right then, and he is right now.
You offer no solution; instead (though you have toned it down) you offer faintly insulting, condescending moralizing. Here is something very, very simple that points to a solution:
There is no voting "against." The only thing that counts is what you vote FOR. The "lesser evil" is a complicated illusion that you are still falling for, while some of us have finally seen through it.
What is less evil, Albion -- killing children via abortion, or killing children as newborns as sacrifices to the gods?
There is no "lesser" evil, just as there was no "lesser" evil in the contest between Obama and Romney. That you cannot see that ... is because you lack the eyes to see it.
Sorry; you cannot accuse me of what you generalize to, when I was referring to one specific election. It is a sophistry and an abstraction to bring in ritual sacrifice when that was not an issue of the election in question.
You're whining. I must be over the target.
But back to Romney's campaign; it's hard to blame him alone when Soros spent "gazillions" several election cycles ago to manipulate elections and enable what amounts to election fraud. And that is only the tip of the iceberg of the long-term planning and in-depth strategies the left is so excellent at, while the so-called right sits in stunned silence wondering why people don't hear their thoughts or admire their good intentions.
I am not saying conservatives should adopt the left's strategies. But I am saying that conservatives have been using horrible strategies, or no strategies, wishful thinking, avoidance and naiveté, and now constitutional conservatism is inches from extinction. That, and given that the constitutionalists are so far gone that the media and the Democrat party has determined who will be the Republican presidential nominee in the past two elections, it's hardly fair to say the fault is Romney's "entirely", regardless of his manifold, lamentable failures.
I cannot even agree with whomever posted above that if a real conservative could run, he or she would get elected. Things have come down to a majority-rule by the corrupt and the low-info's. There is no hope but evangelization and a strategy for our grandchildren and great-grandchildren, because the rot and the strategic change the left has already accompished by legalizing outlaws, selectively enforcing laws, ignoring other laws, and building a permanent Democrat majority is so deep our system now cannot recover, and the idealized "past" conservatives are hoping to return to is not only unknown to the majority of voting-age people in this country; it has already been identified as a positive evil, and they believe it. Even the Republicans are now Democrats; and the Democrats are Communists, and the Communists are anarchists. It's lost, people. There is now no hope but to rebuild from scratch for future generations.
There's always a running car in a closed garage if you've really lost hope.
Don't ever expect to run a liberal republican and win again.
/johnny
A) I’m not a liberal in any sense of the word.
B) My hope is in Jesus. So no problem there.
/johnny
Sweeping generalizations don’t hit targets.
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