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Dem congressman plays 'birther' card on Cruz (Alan Grayson hurl video)
WND ^ | February 20, 2014 | Unattributed

Posted on 02/21/2014 7:40:53 AM PST by Seizethecarp

“Since Ted Cruz is a Canadian and our Constitution requires an American to win, I’m pretty sure it’s not going to be Ted Cruz,” Grayson said.

The questions about Obama, however, linger as an ongoing, official law enforcement investigation has determined the “birth certificate” he released from the White House appears is a forgery.

The questions about Obama’s eligibility, nevertheless, have been publicly ridiculed by everyone from the White House on down.

Grayson said Cruz “represents the element of the Republican Party that’s trying to hasten the apocalypse.”

WND Founder and longtime news executive Joseph Farah, whose news organization has covered the dispute about Obama’s eligibility, said in a column he was amazed that Democrats have raise the issue regarding Cruz.

“I pointed out … that the media are on a campaign to ensure Sen. Ted Cruz never gets a chance to run for president. Why? Because, they claim or infer, he’s ineligible under the constitutional requirement to be a ‘natural born citizen,’” Farah wrote.

“It’s amazing given the media’s ridicule of those of us who posed the question and did six years of investigative work to try to determine Barack Obama’s eligibility – a question that has still not been answered, by the way, or even debated rationally on the facts we now know.”

Farah said it’s “precisely why it was so important to pay attention to the precedent Obama set by refusing to release his birth certificate for two years and then releasing one that was labeled fraudulent by the only law enforcement investigators who have examined it, as well as dozens of document experts.”

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TOPICS: Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Florida; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: alangrayson; canada; florida; marcorubio; naturalborncitizen; obama; tedcruz; texas
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To: GregNH

“And we have Hannity, Beck, Rush, and I think even Levin, all saying he is! I am dumbfounded. We have been screaming what an NBC is for 7 years and you are going to tell me none of them heard it?”

Note that last time I looked, the owner of this website has banned advocating on FR the “two-parent, US soil” NBC definition of MvH as a basis for declaring Ted Cruz to be ineligible.

That Vattel-aligned definition of NBC has been fully litigated in state court and SCOTUS has refused to cert any such cases and it has been resoundingly negated by the congressional certification of Barry as POTUS twice with no objections, despite having a UK subject as a father on the public record. The Barry precedent establishes that at a minimum so long as you are born on US soil to a US citizen mother you are eligible.

Whether Barry actually meets that precedent himself remains to be seen!


21 posted on 02/21/2014 9:53:08 AM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: DoodleDawg

Dems are pursuing a scorched-earth Alinski-Borking of all GOP candidates modelled after the non-stop negative framing of Romney that contributed to them winning the last election with no positive agenda at all.

Over on MSNBC the Dems have been attacking Christie non-stop for months even though he had no chance of winning the GOP primaries...simply because he was out-polling Hilarious in the early polls.


22 posted on 02/21/2014 9:58:57 AM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

I have maintained that the court has nor heard arguments to define NBC because the court has ruled in MvH. The court generally does not like to re-hash rulings.


23 posted on 02/21/2014 10:39:37 AM PST by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: Seizethecarp

Grayson belongs in an insane asylum.


24 posted on 02/21/2014 11:21:14 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: GregNH
Cruz never even hinted a presidential run

Anyone who doesn't think Cruz is running, and has been for some time, is blind.

25 posted on 02/21/2014 11:23:44 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Seizethecarp

Is there a sign in Kenya saying it’s Cruzs’ birthplace. There’s one for the queer in the WH? WHY?


26 posted on 02/21/2014 11:25:52 AM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Seizethecarp
A second problem remains that even if the birth certificate is accurate and authentic, it still leaves open the question of his “natural born citizen” status because it states his father was a Kenyan citizen, unable to confer “natural born citizen” status on his son.

Then wouldn't Farrah have the same issue with Ted Cruz? His father was a Cuban national.

27 posted on 02/21/2014 11:26:44 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

“Then wouldn’t Farrah have the same issue with Ted Cruz? His father was a Cuban national.”

The US Congress has nullified that interpretation of the Constitution twice with no objections in certifying the electoral college vote, so even though I personally object, it doesn’t matter what Farrah, and “two-citizen parent” NBC eligibility believers think, given that reaffirmed precedent.


28 posted on 02/21/2014 12:44:05 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Red Steel

“Grayson belongs in an insane asylum.”

Fortunately, Grayson also attacks his own party members that are to his right...which is ALL of them!


29 posted on 02/21/2014 12:46:46 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: GregNH

“I have maintained that the court has nor heard arguments to define NBC because the court has ruled in MvH. The court generally does not like to re-hash rulings.”

Not a single state or federal court has seen fit to rule that MvH definition of NBC is precedent (stare decisis) and neither has 100% of Congress. Both parties offered candidates in 2008 that violated MvH (and probably colluded to do so). So Barry’s public on the record birth narrative becomes precedent.

I am hoping that Arpaion and Zullo together can shake that narrative in a direction that upends that narrative and Barry’s eligibility. Screwing up Barry’s claim to eligibility is the only thing that I would regard to be “Universe Shattering” while certainly not “beyond imagination” (at least not beyond MY imagination!).


30 posted on 02/21/2014 12:53:02 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Vaduz

The left will enforce it on Cruz and block any attempt on Obama and

NOT BAT AN EYE

at the hypocrisy.


31 posted on 02/21/2014 12:56:15 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Seizethecarp
I am hoping that Arpaion and Zullo together can shake that narrative in a direction that upends that narrative and Barry’s eligibility. Screwing up Barry’s claim to eligibility is the only thing that I would regard to be “Universe Shattering” while certainly not “beyond imagination” (at least not beyond MY imagination!).

On this we can agree. With the hint of foreign student status that would mean he was not a native.

32 posted on 02/21/2014 1:12:14 PM PST by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: Seizethecarp; LucyT; null and void; Cold Case Posse Supporter; Flotsam_Jetsome; circumbendibus; ...
Great though my admiration for Senator Cruz is great, and I ain't kidding, the question of his eligibility makes me kind of itch a little.

So, I remain at my lonely outpost waiting for the black-robèd Scalia, Alito, et al to bestir their haunches and get a ruling on this Article 2 issue properly handled. They need to get two more of their bretheren to vote "Aye" on accepting one of the cases. It not as if worthy appeals have not reached the bowtied bumkissers of the SCOTUS. After all, they seem to have time for such nonsense as Gay Marriage and Obamanationcare. What are they waiting for? The Mombasa MF to appoint Maduro and Raúl Castro to the Court for Hatch, McConnell, and Susie Collins to consent?

WND wants to claim the Soetoro Presidency as a precedent? Isn't that just altogether charming? While I certainly care what they think, until Joseph Farah and the redoutable Dr. Corsi start cashing SCOTUS paychecks, their august opinions are just that: opinions, and INMNVHO, thus ipso facto no better than mine ... or yours ... or Ted Cruz'.

33 posted on 02/21/2014 1:17:23 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Don't let the aftershave and embalming fluid fool you. Many RINOs are actually dead meat.)
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To: clintonh8r
"You can bet that if Cruz is the nominee eligibility will suddenly become a big deal, whereas it was a non-issue in 2008 and 2012."

A non-issue because the republicans were scared to death of being labelled racist by the mainstream liberal media. Gutless cowards.

34 posted on 02/21/2014 1:21:50 PM PST by Godebert
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To: Seizethecarp

I wonder if he use forged documentation during the process, hence the preemptive impeachment emails floating about?


35 posted on 02/21/2014 3:54:21 PM PST by Garvin (When it comes to my freedom, there will be no debate. There will be a fight)
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To: Garvin

Here’s hoping!


36 posted on 02/21/2014 5:57:18 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: MrB

Hypocrisy is about the only thing they know.


37 posted on 02/22/2014 9:08:39 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Seizethecarp; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ...

Thanks Seizethecarp.


38 posted on 02/22/2014 9:45:33 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Seizethecarp

If Ted Cruz is more interested in usurping the Presidency (from the current usurper) than in upholding the Constitution, then he is part of the problem.

Legislators on both sides of the aisle must (and soon will) understand that this country requires a definition for “natural born citizen.” Hopefully, they are about to be forced to reckon with that stark reality.

The Constitution does not define NBC, but it DOES distinguish between “citizen” and NBC and that distinction has never been legally modified or neutralized so the Framer’s original intent remains in force, despite that the entire USG has dishonored the oath of office.

Cruz is not eligible to be POTUS - by a long shot - and neither is McCain, Rubio, nor Jindal.

If there is any hope for our country, this spring will mark Obama’s undoing. Once the fertilizer hits the fan everyone who helped him usurp the Presidency should be held accountable for ravaging the republic for the sake of avoiding being called a “racist” by an illegal alien.


39 posted on 02/22/2014 7:32:49 PM PST by TexasVoter (No Constitution? No Union!)
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