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To: PieterCasparzen

Shame on you to suggest that protesters losing their lives are doing it for money


47 posted on 02/18/2014 9:38:10 PM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Ivan Mazepa
Shame on you to suggest that protesters losing their lives are doing it for money

I did not suggest that. What planet is that coming from ?

The Open Society organization is handing out grants.

That money goes to organizations; people working in cubicles and having meetings, making presentations, etc., and they work on influencing thought leaders inside the country.

How those operations and who knows what other operations by other organizations translate into the actual protests we see is obviously covert, thus not publicly available information.

In some new world order revolutions, like in Syria, there are actual militants who have to be paid and who need logistical support which costs money (much of their financing reportedly comes through Qatar and Saudi Arabia).

In other new world order revolutions and protests, there are countless unpaid protestors who were emotionally swept up by what they heard from organizers, and they participate on their own. The "occupy" movement had a lot of freebies that took part and had no clue as to who they were really working for.

Nevertheless, it's been widely surmised that Soros has been working in the revolution business for decades.
78 posted on 02/19/2014 5:54:26 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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Ditto that!

We have Ukrainian and American friends with offices in downtown Ukraine, very close to where the protests are. They have shared what they think the majority feelings are. While there may be some mixture of different forces of opposition,possibly some outside influence, I believe most of the protests are led by and for native Ukrainians. They just want to have their constitutional rights restored,(that the fraudulently elected President took away last fall) and an end to the corruption in their government, and to not be put back under Russia's thumb.

Not necessarily to join EU, but a portion of them may think that is their only alternative. Mostly they just want freedom. People on here seem to think the current Ukranian president is some model of democratic ideals and that the protesters are some "Occupy wall street" types, or that Soros is behind it. Actually, their president has essentially made himself a dictator and Soros is much more likely to be supporting him and backing a push to join Russia.

114 posted on 02/19/2014 9:36:18 AM PST by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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