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To: Ivan Mazepa

It’s such a shame if they think that joining the European Union will be a good step.

And the independent groups - how to know how much they are influenced in their goals by outsiders.

How much has Soros/Euro/CIA advertising or PR put ideas into people’s minds ? We don’t know.

The people’s intent is right, freedom, etc., but are the specifics they are fighting for actually going to serve their real intent ?

It looks like to me that joining the EU is an idea that has been heavily marketed. No doubt, in such a manner as “hey, we’ll be rich !” Let’s drive BMW’s, go shopping in Paris, etc.

Meanwhile, from what I’ve seen, it looks like there is considerable unhappiness at the EU from populations of the nations that are in the EU !

I’ve recently learned the bitter lesson....

of realizing that I’m just a pawn that is used by the powerful elites of society.

Rather than focus on the national level and going for an immediate changeover in the national government, perhaps focusing on the local level would give much better long-run results.


110 posted on 02/19/2014 9:21:23 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen
It’s such a shame if they think that joining the European Union will be a good step

I don't think being a member of EU is a good step. What is being discussed at this time is a trade agreement with EU, not membership. The trade agreement itself has long been supplanted as the cause of the revolt, it's something like 4th on the list of demands for the protesters.

Rather than focus on the national level and going for an immediate changeover in the national government, perhaps focusing on the local level would give much better long-run results.

Agree.

118 posted on 02/19/2014 10:29:04 AM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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