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BREAKING: Utah legislators move to kill NSA data center
Ben Swann ^ | 2/12/14 | Michael Lotfi

Posted on 02/13/2014 9:40:01 AM PST by Baynative

SALT LAKE CITY, February 12, 2014–Can Utah shut down the new NSA data center by turning off the water? A new bill introduced by state Rep. Marc Roberts seeks to do just that.

The legislation drafted by a transpartisan coalition organized by the Tenth Amendment Center (TAC) and the Bill of Rights Defense Committee (BORDC) called OffNow Coalition. The Utah Fourth Amendment Protection Act would expressly prohibit state material support, participation, and assistance to any federal agency that collects electronic date or metadata without a search warrant “that particularly desribes the person, place and thing to be searched or seized.”

“Without question, the mass surveillance and data collection by the Utah Data Center is a delicate and important matter,” Roberts said. “But for me, the language of the Fourth Amendment is clear. It simply protects us against unreasonable and unwarranted searches or seizures of our persons, private residencies and property, documents and information and personal and private belongings. This legislation preserves those rights to the people.”

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; bluffdale; killthebeast; nsa; nsadatacenter; statesrights; utah; utahdatacenter; yeswescan
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To: ilovesarah2012
Nothing will stop the federal government from doing whatever they want anyway.

Maybe not, but it sure is harder to stop them when the action you're taking was considered and voided by no less a man than Justice John Marshall nearly 200 years ago.

61 posted on 02/13/2014 4:03:48 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Liberty Valance

“Predictive modeling of meta-data.”

We thought about this for a long time, predictive modeling of meta-data, and when we had thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union. “

LOL

Endeavor to Persevere!


62 posted on 02/13/2014 5:34:58 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Baynative

yep...... good lick

When Holder comes, arrest him on conspiracy to damage Utah


63 posted on 02/13/2014 5:39:06 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Baynative

Time to get back to basics, yes?


64 posted on 02/13/2014 5:40:29 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: Baynative

Yeah... There was a day when States rights were key. Unfortunately with 50 years of communist educators in the federal indoctrination camps known as public schools glorifying marxism and the antichrist living in the White House, it’s not likely anyone will enforce any new legislation to protect our rights if they’re not enforcing what’s already on the books.


65 posted on 02/13/2014 7:38:37 PM PST by Whats-wrong-with-the-truth
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To: tacticalogic

Maybe NSA will provide diapers.


66 posted on 02/13/2014 7:48:08 PM PST by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44 (22 Yr, Navy Vet))
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To: ilovesarah2012

(_)o(_)bama will be pulling out his pen and paper.


67 posted on 02/13/2014 8:01:28 PM PST by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44 (22 Yr, Navy Vet))
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To: driftdiver

I wonder what motivated politicians to do this; usually they are so useless that it’s a wonder anything gets done at all.


68 posted on 02/13/2014 8:58:56 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: veracious

As they should be. They are unconstitutional and racist./sarc


69 posted on 02/13/2014 10:10:27 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: anyone

Utah Data Center in Bluffdale.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/


70 posted on 02/13/2014 10:22:19 PM PST by deks (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Baynative

Those pesky Mormons! Time for a few drone strikes!/s


71 posted on 02/14/2014 7:59:13 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Alter Kaker

It depends on the water law in Utah.

Most easterners are utterly ignorant of wester water law. There’s more kinks and tricks embedded in western states’ water law than most people can possibly realize. Things like “best use” and “seniority” can trump even the federal government.

BTW, while the Feds control much western land, they don’t control the water, especially sub-surface water. That’s controlled by the state engineers in the various states.


72 posted on 02/14/2014 10:04:53 PM PST by NVDave
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To: Baynative

How can we help in this effort?


73 posted on 02/15/2014 5:40:39 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

That’s about 1 fully loaded semi truck of water,,every 10 minutes,, every day, 24 hours a day,,,,, forever.


74 posted on 02/15/2014 9:19:27 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

And for extra fun, its a very lonnnnng drive to a water source, and an argument when you get there. Arid western states are funny like that.


75 posted on 02/15/2014 9:25:21 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Baynative

Probably a LOT of fiber in/out of the center. Satellite and microwave just wouldn’t provide the bandwidth for a place such as that. I would think that a mob armed with cable cutters would make short work of the place.


76 posted on 02/16/2014 5:34:04 AM PST by Scooter100
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To: tacticalogic

It is my understanding that water will be cut off. The center can’t function without water


77 posted on 02/16/2014 5:39:01 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Secret Agent Man

> may i be the first to say down with fedgov, and up with a limited, smaller, constitutional federal government.

Instead of an unconstitutional feral government which is our current sittuation.


78 posted on 02/16/2014 5:55:15 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Baynative
While I care about and respect the 4th Amendment, my big question is: who gave them the water rights to 1.7 million gallons of water PER DAY? That was either a secret court order from Washington (and Utah is just catching on that they have zero authority to do that) or it was the result of some secret vote where the legislature took all kinds of illegal shortcuts.

I should've listened to my grandfather, who said: "Want to be a millionaire in a western state? Be a water lawyer."

79 posted on 02/16/2014 10:37:23 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Baynative
I thought that Obama already declared all interstate waterways as federally controlled.

EPA Stealthily Propels Toward ‘Massive Power Grab of Private Property Across the U.S..


The proposed rule, obtained by the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee in advance of EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy’s testimony at a Thursday oversight hearing, widely broadens the definition of waterways over which the federal government has jurisdiction to as little as a water ditch in a backyard.

The Clean Water Act redefinition of “waters of the United States” would include all ponds, lakes, wetlands and natural or manmade streams that have any effect on downstream navigable waters — whether on public lands or private property.


EPA preparing to unleash a deluge of new regulations


“The EPA’s draft water rule is a massive power grab of private property across the U.S. This could be the largest expansion of EPA regulatory authority ever,” Texas Republican Rep. Lamar Smith. “If the draft rule is approved, it would allow the EPA to regulate virtually every body of water in the United States, including private and public lakes, ponds and streams.”

Obama will just declare the water to be federally controlled and send troops to protect the water supply for the NSA.

-PJ

80 posted on 02/16/2014 10:47:39 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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