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Chief: LA Officers in Manhunt Shooting Will Return
ABC News ^ | Feb 6, 2014 | Tami Abdollah

Posted on 02/06/2014 5:46:50 AM PST by KeyLargo

Chief: LA Officers in Manhunt Shooting Will Return LOS ANGELES February 6, 2014 (AP) By TAMI ABDOLLAH Associated Press Associated Press

Eight Los Angeles police officers who mistakenly riddled a pickup truck with bullets during a manhunt for cop-turned-killer Christopher Dorner last year will be allowed to return to the field after they get additional training, Police Chief Charlie Beck said.

"I have confidence in their abilities as LAPD officers to continue to do their jobs in the same capacity they had been assigned," Beck said in a department message to officers obtained Wednesday night by The Associated Press. "In the end, we as an organization can learn from this incident and from the individuals involved."

Both the chief and an independent commission found the 2013 shooting that injured two women violated department policy. The seven officers and one sergeant could have faced penalties including being fired.

Other discipline not outlined in the chief's message could be handed down, police Lt. Andrew Neiman said, but department policy prevents him from discussing it.

Attorney Glen Jonas, who represented the two women who won a $4.2 million settlement from the city, said he was concerned by the chief's decision not to terminate any of the eight officers.

"If either of the women had been killed, you can bet your bottom dollar somebody would be fired and maybe prosecuted," Jonas said. "A stroke of luck, firing more than 100 rounds and missing, should not mean the discipline is lighter."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; guns; losangeles; police; secondamendment; shooting; tyranny
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The first officer-involved shooting happened at about 5:20 a.m. in the 19500 block of Redbeam Avenue in Torrance, according to the L.A. Times. Two women delivering newspapers in a truck were struck by gunfire by L.A. police detectives from the Hollywood division. One woman was shot in the hand and the other in the back, Jesse Escochea, who captured video of the victims being treated, told the Times. Both victims were transported to a hospital.

The Times describes the crime scene: "After the shooting, the blue pickup was riddled with bullet holes and what appeared to be newspapers lay in the street alongside."

1 posted on 02/06/2014 5:46:50 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

As long as Police Chiefs, and cities keep sending these clowns back to work the behavior will not change.

As long as Grand Juries refuse to indict Police Officers, and Police Chiefs, then this behavior will not change.

As long as civil damages are payed by cities, FOP, and insurance policies, and not paid by cops, nothing will change.


2 posted on 02/06/2014 5:50:14 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: KeyLargo

Tami Abdollah? What is up with all the apparently Muslim reporters everywhere? As you know, I post a lot of threads and I see this more and more.


3 posted on 02/06/2014 5:50:14 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: KeyLargo

“The civilian Police Commission that found the officers violated policy also faulted the department itself, saying the officers were rotated in during the night to protect the home because of overtime concerns. The sergeant wasn’t trained to oversee such a protection detail and there was no operational plan. The commission also cites the officers’ inadequate firepower.”

“inadequate firepower”? Really? That’s part of the official finding? Inadequate firepower? They need to clean house at the leadership level. If those idiots had “adequate firepower”, those ladies would be dead. D E A D. What do those clowns want? .50 cal and rocket launchers? Flamethrowers so they could burn down the whole neighborhood?

Defund the Police!


4 posted on 02/06/2014 5:56:10 AM PST by DariusBane
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To: KeyLargo
The mistaken shooting occurred Feb. 7, 2013, as officers protected a Dorner target's Torrance home. When one of the newspaper delivery women threw a paper onto the pavement in the early morning hours, an officer believing the sound was a gunshot opened fire. Officers unable to see clearly into the vehicle riddled the pickup truck with 103 rounds and hit seven nearby homes and nine other vehicles with gunshots and shotgun pellets.

WTF!!!? And then the officers are "qualified" but were "put in a position that they weren't qualified for?" What was that? Collecting newspapers?

I never heard the whole story before now.

5 posted on 02/06/2014 5:56:21 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: DariusBane

They have .50 cal...


6 posted on 02/06/2014 5:58:07 AM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: KeyLargo

they should be fired and banned from being on any force ever


7 posted on 02/06/2014 5:58:20 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Tenacious 1

These officers were only qualified to shoot dogs, harass motorist, and beat skateboarding teenagers senseless.

Shooting up newspaper carriers. That’s a whole different class. Different Merit badge entirely.


8 posted on 02/06/2014 5:59:37 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Tami Abdollah? What is up with all the apparently Muslim reporters everywhere? As you know, I post a lot of threads and I see this more and more.”

Tsk, tsk. PC police will be contacting you......

http://muslimwriters.org/

http://www.paleycenter.org/media-council-media-and-the-muslim-world-enriching-the-american-dialogue


9 posted on 02/06/2014 6:00:22 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: bill1952

But forgot the AT-4 and the napalm. Damn unfortunate.


10 posted on 02/06/2014 6:00:36 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: Tenacious 1

At the very minimum every officer in that shooting should have been charged with wreckless discharge of a firearm.

Because obviously they didn’t know Who they were shooting at!

That is not a mistake. To Everyone except Doughnut eating, steroid chewing RAMBO wannabes it is a crime and is charged all the time.


11 posted on 02/06/2014 6:02:50 AM PST by VRWCarea51
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To: Tenacious 1

“I never heard the whole story before now.”

Me neither....probably because the LAPD knew it would portray them in an even worse light than the original story.
Seven homes hit? Nine other vehicles? Sheesh.

And what about the 20-something white guy who had his Honda Ridgeline shot up at another location?


12 posted on 02/06/2014 6:03:27 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: KeyLargo

Cops should face the same charges I would face if I committed their acts. Any other standard violates the equal protections logic behind all of our laws.


13 posted on 02/06/2014 6:03:30 AM PST by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: DariusBane

If only they had been in the MRAP.


14 posted on 02/06/2014 6:04:19 AM PST by VRWCarea51
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To: KeyLargo
Eight Los Angeles police officers who mistakenly riddled a pickup truck with bullets during a manhunt for cop-turned-killer Christopher Dorner last year will be allowed to return to the field after they get additional training...

Translation: Police Union 8, Los Angeles 0.

15 posted on 02/06/2014 6:14:35 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: VRWCarea51

Yeah! If they had brought the MRAP they could have shown that old lady “whose the BOSS”! LAPD ROCKS! That’s who be da boszes! Yeah! F yeah! Murika!


16 posted on 02/06/2014 6:15:29 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: KeyLargo

These guys nearly killed 3 people and cost the taxpayers so far $4 million in payouts to the victims and they keep their jobs!


17 posted on 02/06/2014 6:28:27 AM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: KeyLargo

Well!if these cops screw up in the future the chief should be fired.There needs to be discipline in the force and retraining doesn’t do it .


18 posted on 02/06/2014 6:30:26 AM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Apparently we should be thankful that LA LEO aren’t better marksmen. Based on my count only about 50% of the rounds hit the target vehicle. Otherwise the newspaper delivery girls would be dead.


19 posted on 02/06/2014 6:42:53 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: DariusBane
"Yeah! If they had brought the MRAP they could have shown that old lady “whose the BOSS”! LAPD ROCKS! That’s who be da boszes! Yeah! F yeah! Murika!"

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20 posted on 02/06/2014 6:44:09 AM PST by KeyLargo
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