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This is what happens when you have to depend on the government for your healthcare.

This is a horrible way to treat our veterans, but it's also a preview of things to come for ALL of us under Obamacare.

Please read the full article to get all the details -- it's worth it.

1 posted on 01/31/2014 6:28:18 AM PST by Innovative
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CNN also had a previous article, dated Nov 30, 2013:

Hospital delays are killing America’s war veterans

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/19/health/veterans-dying-health-care-delays/index.html


2 posted on 01/31/2014 6:30:50 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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This depends entirely on where you are located. Some areas....are heavily underdeveloped. There’s a VA Center up in Colorado....in the far south of the state....which has lots of open appointments and high regards. Some of these centers around north Florida....just aren’t built for the number of clients they have.


3 posted on 01/31/2014 6:31:07 AM PST by pepsionice
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The VA system is a window to look at Obamacare.
4 posted on 01/31/2014 6:33:33 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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No other business or government department could get away with treating people as shabbily as the VA does.


5 posted on 01/31/2014 6:34:58 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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About 10 years ago, when I turned 50, the VA said I needed a colonoscopy. Told me there was a 3 year waiting list. Went to my primary care provider through my work insurance and got one in 3 weeks.


9 posted on 01/31/2014 6:45:12 AM PST by Bruce Kurtz
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The treatment rendered by some VAs (there are a few exceptions) is abominable. This is the kind of “health care” that will be provided once the progs push through their brand of universal care.

The Atlanta VA is, out of the 7 VA hospitals I’ve received care, the absolute pits!


10 posted on 01/31/2014 6:51:55 AM PST by whatshotandwhatsnot (Islam Wants You Dead!)
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In my personal experience with VA healthcare, its always been timely, efficient and competent. Sad that many vets don't find the same.
11 posted on 01/31/2014 6:52:26 AM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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The VA has doctors.

It will soon look like the Mayo Clinic compared with the Obamacare system

No one really looked into comparisons with military medicine and with socialized medicine systems in other countries

The VA has always been like this. Do people think it USEDto be good? When?


14 posted on 01/31/2014 7:16:42 AM PST by stanne
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Obamacare has one major effect. Very few people would go to med school now

In five to ten yrs there will be a shortage of providers that will be profound and the future of that situation, not better

What we will have is the VA with 100 X the patients and no providers. The stupidity of our allowing this to happen, BOner blaming the shutdown on Cruz, she offer shutting out Cruz speak instead if heeding cruz’ warmings will be devastating

Obamacare Do people think it won’t be a hundred times worse than the VA but without the providers?


15 posted on 01/31/2014 7:23:45 AM PST by stanne
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This is the plan. Obama’s plans are all coming to fruition.


17 posted on 01/31/2014 7:40:00 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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There is story after story claiming how wonderful VA government run healthcare is to justify single payer. Say it ain’t so that it fails. Better bring in tens of millions of illegals to fix everything. That seems to be the new solution to all our problems.


18 posted on 01/31/2014 8:06:10 AM PST by Organic Panic
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this has been going on for a long time...its not new....what did people really expect?


19 posted on 01/31/2014 8:07:46 AM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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Coming soon to the rest of us.


20 posted on 01/31/2014 8:09:02 AM PST by dfwgator
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I work on contract to the VA. The hospital I am affiliated with has a few delays but overall the care is adequate and sometimes very good.

I was told by the Chief of Ambulatory Care that there are 3 office staff for every health care provider at that hospital. And THAT my FRiends, is where all the money goes.


23 posted on 01/31/2014 9:00:59 AM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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and funding for the VA health care facilities has had a great increase since 2009 - but still the delays

in addition

a report directly from the VA recently announced they were changing the rules on what RNs and nurse practitioners could do, adding to their jobs some things, some times, that doctors often do and some of those things will be allowed to be done in some cases without a doctor’s supervision - due to a big shortage of doctors at many VA facilities

the nursing profession is applauding the change, and the doctors are warning of what they feel will be significant problems


25 posted on 01/31/2014 12:59:16 PM PST by Wuli
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What was it that Kathleen Sebillius said? Some will live, some will die? It’s all going according to plan apparently.


26 posted on 01/31/2014 1:01:45 PM PST by uncitizen (Obama said 'period', but he meant 'asterisk'.)
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Soon coming to an Obamacare facility near you.


27 posted on 01/31/2014 1:39:29 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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It’s what “they” wanted anyway. Cut the pay, delay the care and ruin the best and bravest. Alinsky would be proud, that evil, country-killer.


28 posted on 01/31/2014 2:42:48 PM PST by madison10
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To bad no one in government or elected officials are held accountable.

What they should do, is immediately force all of Congress and the Senate in VA facilities for care/treatment for the next 5 years or until the problems are addressed.


30 posted on 01/31/2014 9:12:30 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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It’s just as bad if not worse in the UK. The Daily Mail is full of horror stories. Some of them would make you cry.


31 posted on 02/01/2014 10:22:49 AM PST by deputytess (Men of the West .....stand and FIGHT!)
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