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LESSON OF ATLANTA SNOWJAM 2014!
Vanity | 1/29/2014 | Dick Bachert

Posted on 01/29/2014 1:46:20 PM PST by Dick Bachert

As this is written, Atlanta is still in the throes of another winter weather situation. The TV is filled with images of major highways littered with abandoned vehicles. Many of their owners are stranded in make-shift shelters until warmer weather makes the roads passable again.

The governor and other officials just concluded a news conference to explain how the mess unfolded and that they've learned much from this experience.

One of the lessons they “learned” is that, once the potential severity of this event became obvious, dismissing public and private employees all at once to try to get home was a really bad idea as it is many of their abandoned vehicles now clogging the roads, making it impossible for the salt and sand trucks to do their thing.

How unfortunate that so many of these state officials and private business management folks seem to be slow learners. We've had a number of these events in years past and the result is the same: Hundreds of thousands of gallons of expensive fuel burned, multiple thousands of people stranded, some folks even dying in accidents or from exposure, etc.

There IS a sensible solution for at least SOME of these folks and the problems they faced, a solution that could also seriously curtail the massive and growing year round Atlanta traffic rush hour gridlock and, just incidentally, conserve that precious fuel and reduce the CO2 and other emissions the Algore and the other “climate change” charlatans insist causes “global warming” (despite growing evidence that they're nuts).

In the 60s and 70s, Tom Peters, an American writer on business management practices, wrote and spoke extensively on what he called the “Electronic Cottage.” It was a very sensible proposal made possible by the coming of age of the electronic revolution.

In a nutshell, his proposal, even MORE sensible now that the electronic revolution has had 50 years to mature, is that, unless a worker's occupation absolutely required that he leave his home each day to drive to where he performs his duties, the need for him to do so was becoming unnecessary. If he or she was one of the growing number of INFORMATION workers from whom an employer needed mainly or only an INFORMATION WORK PRODUCT, that product could just as easily be created in an “electronic cottage” in some small portion of his or her home.

If I have to explain the societal benefits of that, please stop reading now as you may be one of Obama's no/low information folks and wouldn't grasp how it would save vast amounts of valuable energy resources and human time as folks no longer would need to sit in stop and go rush hours breathing noxious fumes for several hours each day. If you are one of those whose job requires you to navigate a rush hour twice a day, try to imagine how YOUR rush hour experience might improve with half or more of the vehicles removed from the highways?

Speaking of noxious fumes, I sincerely believe that these big city rush hours and those noxious fumes are damaging our brains, exacerbating the dumbing down begun in the government schools to the point where 47% or so of us actually believed the BS laid down my Obama and put an unvetted, unqualified, Marxist community organizer in office – TWICE – and still haven't noticed that his every act is designed to destroy America.

(I'm tempted to raise the issue of school busing but that's a topic for another rant.)

There is another reason why Peters' common sense proposal has not gained more traction. That is the ego driven flaw that dictates that the corporate guy who makes it up the food chain to a corner office feels the need to be able to periodically stroll from that office and gaze around at a mass of cubicle enclosed fellow humans and know that they are “his” people. Their absence from his sight would cause him to feel less important and secure.

And, speaking of security, it COULD come to pass that those above him in that food chain might begin to question just why HE is in that corner office. Can't have that sort of thing now, can we, lest it ripple up and down the entire food chain.

So, while I don't hold out much hope that the electronic cottage with all its many benefits will get any serious consideration, it is possible that coming events here might force it upon us.


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1 posted on 01/29/2014 1:46:20 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert

Carry chains in your 4x4?


2 posted on 01/29/2014 1:49:35 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Dick Bachert

Agree.

I have that “electronic cottage” in my home.

In the DC area today there was a slight dusting. Knowing the transplant idiots that come to this city (particularly from the south who have no idea how to handle snow) I prudently worked at home rather then venture to the office.

The fact that anyone with a laptop and internet connection commutes to an office anymore is ridiculous


3 posted on 01/29/2014 1:49:43 PM PST by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: Dick Bachert

If I know a big storm is coming that will really tie up traffic, I take my computer home the night before and work from home.


4 posted on 01/29/2014 1:49:55 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Dick Bachert

A better lesson from the storm:

Chick-fil-A gives free food to motorists stranded in Southern snowstorm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3117140/posts

Once Chick-Fil-a determined that stranded drivers, stuck in their cars for nearly seven hours, went without food or water, the Chick-fil-A staff went into action, cooking several hundred sandwiches then braving the icy storm to hand out the sandwiches.

Chick-Fil-a staffers braved the falling snow and ice, slipping and sliding, as they offered their famous hot juicy chicken breasts tucked between two buttered buns. Chick-fil-A refused to take a single penny for their sandwiches. The meal was a gift – no strings attached.


5 posted on 01/29/2014 1:50:10 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Dick Bachert
"I sincerely believe that these big city rush hours and those noxious fumes are damaging our brains, exacerbating the dumbing down begun in the government schools"

At least we got the Lead outta gasoline.

6 posted on 01/29/2014 1:50:38 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Dick Bachert

How about the lesson is that not everything can predicted.


7 posted on 01/29/2014 1:51:04 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: Dick Bachert

Atlanta is rather far south.

On the other hand, I believe it is at the highest elevation of any East Coast city. Hard to understand how they can be THIS totally unprepared.


8 posted on 01/29/2014 1:52:00 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Dick Bachert

The lesson I see is if there’s weather inbound to your area that your area almost never gets, things will be crazy, try to stay home (electric cottage, call in sick, whatever it takes).


9 posted on 01/29/2014 1:53:46 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: Dick Bachert

The problem with telecommuting is that anything that can be done from your home and an Internet connection can be done by some guy in Mumbai or Bangalore from HIS Internet connection.

Wait until management finds out who costs less!


10 posted on 01/29/2014 1:55:08 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: thackney
Chick-fil-A gives free food to motorists stranded in Southern snowstorm

Those crazy homophobes!

8^]

11 posted on 01/29/2014 2:02:55 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The only way women can "have it all" is if men aren't allowed to have anything.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

It is a brave new world, however there are many jobs stateside that are information jobs that you simply can’t get the same quality in Mumbai. Along with that you have certification requirements, clearance requirements, citizen requirements as well.


12 posted on 01/29/2014 2:04:26 PM PST by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Wait until management finds out who costs less!

Then wait until they find out how difficult it is to terminate an employee, or not pay him even if there is no work to do.

I've been responsible for sending work to a sub-group of my department in India. I don't want to be in that position again. The biggest fear we had in staffing up for a large job was the inability to back staff down.

13 posted on 01/29/2014 2:15:18 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I wonder if they asked someones sexual orientation before they gave them a sammich. I rather doubt it.


14 posted on 01/29/2014 2:31:59 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (www.greenhornshooting.com - Firearms training in Jacksonville, Fl.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Hard to understand how they can be THIS totally unprepared.

1. They let everyone out at the same time 2. 2" of snow turned into solid ice 3. No one I know, and I've been around a while, can navigate successfully on solid ice. Atlanta is a southern city that rarely gets storms of this magnitude. Last one in 2011. I know, I was snowed in for 8 days. Previous to 2011, the last big one I remember was a huge ice storm in 97 or 98. Now why would a southern city spend untold millions to stock sand, salt and snowplows if they're only going to be used once every 5-6 years?

15 posted on 01/29/2014 2:37:28 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (www.greenhornshooting.com - Firearms training in Jacksonville, Fl.)
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To: MadIsh32
The fact that anyone with a laptop and internet connection commutes to an office anymore is ridiculous

It's not the employees who want to be in the office(s).

It is the employers who insist that they need butts in seats.

16 posted on 01/29/2014 2:44:45 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

“Now why would a southern city spend untold millions to stock sand, salt and snowplows”
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While my family was from Atlanta in the 30s, I grew up in Memphis, where we had a 14 inch snow in Dec. 63 and 17 inch in March of 68.
I remember hearing that the city had one snow plow, but sold it back in the 50s.
I also remember ice skating on city park ponds. The park service set up barrel fires along the banks to help us keep warm. The 1963 snow was accompanied by a MINUS 13 degrees.

My cold spells now are temps dipping into the 70s. It is now 78 outside at 7:30 AM, haha. I might have to put on a shirt.


17 posted on 01/29/2014 3:20:58 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Buckeye McFrog

GLOBAL WARMING!!!!!!!!!!


18 posted on 01/29/2014 3:25:34 PM PST by jayrunner
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To: Dick Bachert

Maybe the drivers thought they could cheat their way thru the snow.

Of course, cheating didn’t work out so well for those Atlanta teachers either.


19 posted on 01/29/2014 3:26:47 PM PST by moovova
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
1. They should have closed the schools that morning. They knew it was coming. Even if it was not that bad what happened due to stupidity was worse. Making up a day is no big deal.
We in stupid ole’ southern MS> closed schools, had sand trucks out sanding I-10 overpasses and such the NIGHT PRIOR TO THE STORM HITTING. We are poor and surly don't spend millions for sand etc. I was in Atlanta for the huge storm of 97 or 98. I drove to Birmingham in the 70mph winds and snow. Snow is ok until it becomes ice.
2. You can't really drive on ice for any length of time unless you are really good. Agree.
It just means using some common sense which most big cities don't have. Most school boards don't have any sense either. In fact ours surprised me with thinking ahead as they did. Oh BTW I teach here.
We don't have hurricanes too often but we do prepare. Once again it requires a brain and cities usually don't possess one of those items.
Atlanta used to be nice years ago. Now it is a hell hole IMO.
If someone was injured or killed due to this storm I would love to see the mayor of Atlanta arrested and at least tried. He would get off but it would be fun to watch him/her squirm. That is the problem nothing happens to the aholes who cause the problem.
20 posted on 01/29/2014 3:27:00 PM PST by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Hard to understand how they can be THIS totally unprepared.

We get a serious snow/ice storm that lasts two days every seven to ten years. Those tend to pop up expectantly. Otherwise, the winters are very tame. It would be foolish to invest a lot of money in road clearing machinery, snow tires/chains for use just two days every ten years.

It makes more sense to stay put in the office or stay at home when one knows it is coming. Also, it is hard to expect Southern drivers to become accustomed to such driving conditions with such infrequent foul weather. Those of use who are "imports" don't spin our tires or slam on the brakes like most people in these parts.

21 posted on 01/29/2014 3:28:25 PM PST by GingisK
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

Yup, my point exactly!


22 posted on 01/29/2014 3:30:39 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Dick Bachert

Sales of Evil 4x4 SUV’s and Subaru’s are going to SOAR now.

This generation has had to lean, the hard way, the lesson that we learned in the winters of 78,79, and 81.

No matter how politically-correct that little hybrid sh*tbox you are driving is, is that political correctness worth killing you or your family over?


23 posted on 01/29/2014 3:39:21 PM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Paladin2

>> “Carry chains in your 4x4?” <<

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All four of our vehicles are 4x4s and we have tire chains and tow chains in all of them from October to the end of June.


24 posted on 01/29/2014 3:44:11 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: tcrlaf

Forget the Subarus!

They don’t have enough torque to crawl over an extension cord.


25 posted on 01/29/2014 3:45:55 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Self reliance is a character builder (for the kidz).

A day's rations would be a helper in the SE in these daze of Global Warming. ;-)

26 posted on 01/29/2014 3:47:13 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: discostu
Get your

out of the Man Cave to be able to make a beer run.

27 posted on 01/29/2014 3:50:37 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Dick Bachert

I never cease to be amazed at how many government employees at every level are referred to as non-essential when it comes to not reporting for work for any number of reasons. If they are non-essential, why are they even on the payroll?

OTOH I’ve never understood why any company in the service industry thinks employees have to commute to an expensive office building to work every day. Call centers for every business could easily be located totally in the U.S. and allow the employees to have a computer and work from home.


28 posted on 01/29/2014 3:51:07 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

Not to call them industrious, but the folks handing out building permits, collecting utility bills etc can certainly take a day off but are required in some form eventually.


29 posted on 01/29/2014 3:53:19 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Paladin2

We have freeze dried meals, water and sterno in all of the vehicles, along with ponchos, space blankets, lighters, and lots of paracord.


30 posted on 01/29/2014 3:57:14 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Beat me to it.


31 posted on 01/29/2014 4:03:01 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Dick Bachert

Of course there is always personal responsibility.... My daughter and her husband both took the day off. The weather was in fast and furious here in the north and neither one of them wanted to try and navigate what they knew would be out there.

Because we Georgians were warned well ahead of time, each of us could have made different choices


32 posted on 01/29/2014 4:04:46 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Paladin2

that’s great IF you have a four wheel drive vehicle and a place to buy chains.

Most places don’t sell chains or even snow ropes. And in the metro area not that many people drive 4 wheel drive vehicles.


33 posted on 01/29/2014 4:06:15 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Let’s see..... people here do not know how to drive on these roads under black ice conditions; no one has snow tires on their cars because no one does ( Saturday it will be 60); It is not as if NYC or other cities do all that well under similar conditions, in fact the cities in the northeast have waaaay more equipment and really don’t do as well


34 posted on 01/29/2014 4:09:10 PM PST by Nifster
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To: GeorgiaDawg32; All

I think GDOT and generally every one did a good job. People went to work KNOWING that snow was coming and that temperatures would be in the teens after sun down. The city had their deicing trucks out and working.

What people forget is that sanding and deicing have to happen at a specific time in the storm. Too soon and it is all gone by the time temps drop; too late and it is ineffective; PLUS there is always the case where the stuff works and then temps drop again really fast and refreeze.

You exactly right when speaking of plowing equipment and deicers. The state has quadrupled the number of plows and increased the deicing trucks as well. They even found a new brine solution that helps break up the ice on the road way better.

I think the state was as prepared as they could possibly be. I have seen empty street shots of NYC when they get hit with snow. Denver is notorious for housing the snowplows in a location that no one can get to if there is a storm.

Come on folks how unreasonable can one be?


35 posted on 01/29/2014 4:16:26 PM PST by Nifster
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To: prof.h.mandingo

And since you didn’t ask... no one was injured or killed in the metro area. There was one death in Coweta county.

Though I agree that schools should have been closed. Many did but no all are


36 posted on 01/29/2014 4:18:59 PM PST by Nifster
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To: editor-surveyor

And you live in place that obviously needs them. You don’t live in Atlanta or even northern Georgia.

Snow tires can tear up the tarmac on most highways ( depending on the type of snow tire). Moreover it is hard on the tire to be driving in normal weather (temps 60 and above)....

I grew up in snow country and I know how to be prepared and stay safe. Now that I live in an area that only occasionally has snow it takes on a different meaning


37 posted on 01/29/2014 4:22:22 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Dick Bachert
All those empty bread & milk shelves !


oh ! the huge.manatee

38 posted on 01/29/2014 4:26:46 PM PST by tomkat ( -1 -2 -3 = #4)
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To: tcrlaf
"is that political correctness worth killing you or your family over?"

(Back in the day) After my wife and my very young son had to leave the road to avoid a head-on, they got an old skool (but new at the time) double solid axle 4x4 Suburban to use in the winter. Fortunately no further issues were encountered, but that sukker would get me to work even on the worst days (when the rest of the fam didn't need it 'cause they stayed at home).

39 posted on 01/29/2014 4:28:19 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Nifster
"Moreover it is hard on the tire to be driving in normal weather (temps 60 and above)...."

Naw, I run new snow tires in the winter and then use the older ones in the summer as they make good rain tires.

Just now Blizzaks.

I even have qa set of studded snow tires for the sates where they are allowed. I just pull the studs from the worn tires to use them in the summer 'till they are done.

40 posted on 01/29/2014 4:31:47 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Dick Bachert

The biggest problem is that Atlanta is one little fender-bender away from a major traffic snarl on a good day. As one trucker stated on the CB a few years ago, “too many cars, not enough asphalt”.

It’s a problem when the population density becomes too great. Too many high-rise offices that the road system just can’t feed.

Atlanta’s too big.

Did I mention that I HATE driving through Atlanta?


41 posted on 01/29/2014 4:31:56 PM PST by meyer (Who needs gas chambers when you have Obamacare?)
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"Moreover it is hard on the tire to be driving in normal weather (temps 60 and above)...."

Naw, I run new snow tires in the winter and then use the older ones in the summer as they make good rain tires.

Just not Blizzaks.

I even have qa set of studded snow tires for the sates where they are allowed. I just pull the studs from the worn tires to use them in the summer 'till they are done.

42 posted on 01/29/2014 4:32:10 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Dick Bachert
There is another reason why Peters' common sense proposal has not gained more traction. That is the ego driven flaw that dictates that the corporate guy who makes it up the food chain to a corner office feels the need to be able to periodically stroll from that office and gaze around at a mass of cubicle enclosed fellow humans and know that they are “his” people. Their absence from his sight would cause him to feel less important and secure. There are lots and lots of small businessmen whose”office” is their phone. Which ought to tell corporations something, but instead they continue to build more and more buildings to house said “serfs”.
43 posted on 01/29/2014 4:33:06 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: Nifster
"Moreover it is hard on the tire to be driving in normal weather (temps 60 and above)...."

Naw, I run new snow tires in the winter and then use the older ones in the summer as they make good rain tires.

Just not Blizzaks.

I even have a set of studded snow tires for the States where they are allowed. I just pull the studs from the worn tires to use them in the summer 'till they are done.

Having two identical vehicles helps to make full use of a multiplicity of tire/wheel sets.

44 posted on 01/29/2014 4:33:39 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
At least we got the Lead outta gasoline.

OMG, you talk as if that was a good thing. Probably think it's great that "we" got the lead out of paint, too. Next, you'll be suggesting that we should get the lead out of the pencil.

You must be young -- product of the modern public schools, no doubt. See tagline.

45 posted on 01/29/2014 4:36:58 PM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: BfloGuy
Pencils didn't have lead in the 50s.

Lead is really not all that good except for ammo and fishing weights.

46 posted on 01/29/2014 4:38:47 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

and again you obviously live in an area where severe weather is the norm. Snow tires are in fact more expensive than a regular tire. All weather tires (as advertised) really aren’t.


47 posted on 01/29/2014 4:42:34 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster
New all weather tires work pretty well on a 4x4 in most conditions.

Even those need to be managed to use up their lower tread depths in the better conditions. So multiple wheel/ties sets need to be on hand.

This obviously mandates owning vehicles for a decade or so. No leasing here.

48 posted on 01/29/2014 4:50:03 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
Pencils didn't have lead in the 50s.

Yeah, well, I was referring to another meaning [evidently now lost] of lead in the pencil.

49 posted on 01/29/2014 4:52:34 PM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: Paladin2

and most people here do not have four wheel drive vehicles... AND they have no clue as to how to drive in this weather. Those all weather tires do not give you jack when you are on roads that are nothing but glazed ice.... that’s true even in snow country....even chains may not give you enough traction

And again I say you obviously live in an area that is subject to sever weather.


50 posted on 01/29/2014 4:53:45 PM PST by Nifster
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