[Steve_Seattle]

"The reasons the statists scream over this idea is that they wouldn’t have a way to punish and to keep punishing those who they know will never accept whatever impossibility the state is calling marriage at the time."

I think this legislator is on to something. And you are right, too: the state senses power in defining what marriage is, and it does not willingly relinquish power. Churches should say: we do not recognize the power of the state to determine what - for us - constitutes a valid marriage. For us, it is a strictly religious vow, and is none of the business of the state or of the IRS. You can take your gay marriage and shove it.

[Ransomed]

The homosexualists have to have the state involved in order to punish those who they know will always disagree them. The statists go along with it because they know it will help destabilize the culture, producing more broken people reliant on the state. Thus state approved serial civil divorce and now ‘gay marriage.’

Freegards

[GeronL]

destroying civil marriage was always the goal of the perverts

sounds like you are on their side