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Libertarian wing of GOP gains strength in Congress
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | 1/24/14 | Susan Ferrechio

Posted on 01/24/2014 7:11:12 AM PST by cotton1706

A few times each month, a couple dozen House Republican lawmakers gather in a meeting room in a building adjacent to Capitol to discuss ideas and legislative proposals that focus on limited government, reducing the debt and maintaining individual rights.

The group considers itself conservative with a libertarian emphasis. They call themselves the Liberty Caucus and believe that in order for the GOP to win more elections in the future, the party must begin embracing their libertarian-minded philosophy because voters are beginning to demand it, particularly in the wake of government data collection revelations that some believe infringe on privacy rights.

"I think you are seeing a movement in the Republican Party where it is becoming more liberty minded," Rep. Raul Labrador, R-Idaho, a member of the Liberty Caucus, told the Washington Examiner.

"Issues like [government data collection by the National Security Administration] have really enlightened Republicans to the dangers of the lack of strong congressional oversight of these organizations, so I think we need to get back to the basic doctrine of the constitution. Our Founding Fathers had a fear of strong central government and too much power being given to one person. That is the premise of what the constitution was about."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; libertarian
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1 posted on 01/24/2014 7:11:12 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706
"We are the future of the Republican Party," Labrador, who was elected to Congress in 2010, said of the Liberty Caucus.

No. They are the future of the United States, if the Unites States is going to have a future.

2 posted on 01/24/2014 7:16:00 AM PST by jdege
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To: cotton1706

When your platform is “Smoke Free Dope”, you naturally get the youth vote...


3 posted on 01/24/2014 7:21:03 AM PST by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: cotton1706

Pity they aren’t Conservative; just anarchists with conservative tendencies.

Libertarianism = chaos and mob rule.


4 posted on 01/24/2014 7:22:35 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: RIghtwardHo

Or as a friend of mine sarcastically commented, “Libertarianism is Anarchism for rich folks.”


5 posted on 01/24/2014 7:29:08 AM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Good point-That would point to the Saudi Royal family.


6 posted on 01/24/2014 7:37:41 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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7 posted on 01/24/2014 7:38:48 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Old Sarge
When your platform is “Smoke Free Dope”, you naturally get the youth vote...

And there's the problem with the GOP. They have no concept of individual liberty.
8 posted on 01/24/2014 7:39:06 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Libertarianism = Homosexual marriage, legal pot smoking, legal prostitution, etc.


9 posted on 01/24/2014 7:39:22 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: jdege

“No. They are the future of the United States, if the Unites States is going to have a future.”

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Sorry. Incorrect.

These libs - like other RINO’s - do nothing but detract Tea Party and conservative ideals.


10 posted on 01/24/2014 7:47:02 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

I ventured into a few of the Liberty Forums and found the Libertarians to be among the rudest bunch of people online. Nothing but Ron Paulbots that appear to support more than legalizing pot but other drugs as well. Anti Reagan and questionable on our military.


11 posted on 01/24/2014 7:49:42 AM PST by katiedidit1
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To: cotton1706

Give a Liberaltarian a big sack of dope to smoke with his queer boyfriend and he would gladly vote for Karl Marx.


12 posted on 01/24/2014 7:49:58 AM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are Affirmative Action for Slackers! .)
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To: andyk
When your platform is “Smoke Free Dope”, you naturally get the youth vote...

And there's the problem with the GOP. They have no concept of individual liberty.

 

You think individual liberty grows and is enhanced by smoking free dope? How very libertarian of you.

13 posted on 01/24/2014 7:50:19 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: cotton1706

I thought that Libertarians were going to take over a state and show the world how to do things (wasn’t it New Hampshire?). What ever happened to that. It was several years ago.

I seem to remember reading that they were introducing anti-gun-owner laws in New Hampshire a few days ago. Doesn’t sound very Libertarian to me.


14 posted on 01/24/2014 7:50:27 AM PST by jim_trent
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

I will take choas over authoritarianism any day. Better to face a mob than suffer the loss of Constitutional rights “under the color of law”, which is one more federal offense not prosecuted by the current (or past) administrations.


15 posted on 01/24/2014 7:57:05 AM PST by Pecos (The Chicago Way: Kill the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Sorry. Incorrect.

These libs - like other RINO’s - do nothing but detract Tea Party and conservative ideals.”

That’s nonsense. The libertarian ideal basically says “if I’m doing nothing to bother you, stay the heck out of my business”. That is extremely conservative, and the antithesis of the current government. What needs to go are the big-government, authoritarian loving RINOs. ;-)

I guess you also missed “Many of the Liberty Caucus members also consider themselves Tea Party members”.


16 posted on 01/24/2014 8:55:06 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: jim_trent

“I seem to remember reading that they were introducing anti-gun-owner laws in New Hampshire a few days ago. Doesn’t sound very Libertarian to me.”

Nope. There are still Dems there, and they are trying - however nothing is expected to pass:

http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/8828827-95/nh-legislature-may-see-a-renewed-fight-over-gun-control-in-2014

Right now NH has among the most sane gun laws in the Northeast.

I don’t think Libertarians have achieved a majority in NH, but quite a few have relocated there for the Liberty Project. They are having an influence.


17 posted on 01/24/2014 9:07:42 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: Old Sarge; andyk
Old Sarge imagines: When your platform is “Smoke Free Dope”, you naturally get the youth vote...

Is that the platform of the libertarian wing of the GOP? For the government -- meaning we the taxpayers -- to pay for pot given away to "the masses"? REALLY? Prove it. You won't, FRiend, because you can't, because it's a hysterical and false accusation.

The small-l libertarian, such as THOMAS SOWELL and Milton Friedman -- people who actually understood and grasped real libertarian principle, would know then that such "libertarians" were along the lines of people wearing roller skates claiming to be ice skating: totally PHONY.

TRUE libertarian principle would exclude the Federal government from either PROVIDING "free dope" or from throwing people in prison for smoking a friggin' weed that will grow wild in a vacant lot.

Big-L Libertarian, as in the official party, has apparently been seized by people who confuse "libertarian" with "liberal," as in "free for all." TRUE libertarians, understand, as did Ronald Reagan, that libertarian principle is the foundation of conservatism -- that is, if you define "conservatism" as "using government sparingly."

Sounds to me like you might be someone who defines "conservatism" as "using government liberally to enforce socially 'conservative' mores because Americans are like little children who need the government to serve as their shepherds."

There's nothing wrong with libertarian principle. There is A LOT WRONG with idiot ignorant pig-headed "conservatives" who 1) are obsessed with a plant (though have no problem with legal alcohol that's a critical factor in the death and injury of THOUSANDS every year) and 2) who want to use government as a Nanny every bit as much as Democrats do.

18 posted on 01/24/2014 9:09:51 AM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Beats legalized thievery for the indignant and people who suck at life.


19 posted on 01/24/2014 9:11:53 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: andyk

Amen, andyk. You have hit on the main reason I rarely bother to post on FR any more. I’m a conservative Christian, yet every time I support a libertarian principle or policy, I get accused of being a drunk, dope-smoking, homosexual child-molester.

I hate Democrat policies because they are big government. I hate Republican policies that support and encourage big government. How does being against unnecessary, intrusive government make me an anarchist?


20 posted on 01/24/2014 9:13:28 AM PST by old3030 (I lost some time once. It's always in the last place you look.)
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