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NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden to hold Q&A Thursday
CNET ^ | January 21, 2014 | Steven Musil

Posted on 01/23/2014 8:02:21 AM PST by MeshugeMikey

Edward Snowden is expected to offer his opinion of President Obama's NSA reforms during a Webcast question-and-answer session on Thursday. It will be Snowden's first live chat since he began releasing classified internal documents last June that revealed the National Security Agency's surveillance programs, according to FreeSnowden.is, the support site hosting the hour-long Q&A. Snowden, who is currently living in exile in Russia, was charged with espionage after reportedly stealing 1.7 million classified documents from US government computers.

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1 posted on 01/23/2014 8:02:21 AM PST by MeshugeMikey
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To: MeshugeMikey

Kinda odd timing... given all the security headaches Russia’s dealing with right now.


2 posted on 01/23/2014 8:10:10 AM PST by txhurl
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To: MeshugeMikey

Hi, Ed. This is Jim in Langley, Virginia. Where are you? Can you post some exact GPS coordinates? Thx.


3 posted on 01/23/2014 8:15:45 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: MeshugeMikey

Ed Snowden: the new Salman Rushdie.

But instead of a work of fiction which enraged Muslims, Snowden wrote the truth which enraged Leftists.


4 posted on 01/23/2014 8:26:58 AM PST by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: Old Sarge; MeshugeMikey

What did Orwell say...

“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act”


5 posted on 01/23/2014 8:32:56 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Old Sarge
But instead of a work of fiction which enraged Muslims, Snowden wrote the truth which enraged Leftists.

He also enraged big-brother types of every political persuasion.

6 posted on 01/23/2014 8:33:02 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right

It’s about time to face the facts: Snowden was likely a sincere libertarian who came to some kind of logical conclusion about how inconsistent a lot of politics. Can’t say I condone him in what he did, but I can’t say I didn’t see some kind of person who wanted to be sincere taking a swipe at the establishment.


7 posted on 01/23/2014 8:37:33 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Buckeye McFrog

No doubt,,im with you that the American STASI could efficiently track him in Russia. Just as the can and do with Americans. Which is exactly why he told us what they were doing and had to flee to safety.


8 posted on 01/23/2014 8:37:47 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Leaning Right

Well, it’s pretty much the left’s fault, Snowden is their very own POS, if they were even slightly sincere, he wouldn’t be an issue, but a bad joke for most of them.


9 posted on 01/23/2014 8:39:39 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Morpheus2009
I have to say my take on Snowden is every evolving. At first I was disgusted by what he did, but now I am more disgusted by the intrusive activities of the NSA and the hunt against whislteblowers in general. I still don't agree how Snowden went about it and the fact he sought sanctuary with America's enemies, but maybe I will grow to understand.
10 posted on 01/23/2014 8:40:18 AM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Sam Gamgee

Snowden is and will remain on offense. All reports are he has enough dirt on that thumb drive to keep dumping on the US Government for years to come.


11 posted on 01/23/2014 8:43:43 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: MeshugeMikey

I find it hard to believe “it’s just a coincidence” that what Snowden has done supports the premise of Hillary’s “spontaneous” lie with Benghazi.

It’s one of those things I find just too convenient to be “just a coincidence”.

Ever notice with the Boston bombing the first thing people asked was “how did the NSA with all it’s spying, miss it”?

What was the answer, the bombing only had 2 days planning and then they planned “spontaneously” to attack NYC.

Just too convenient to be a coincidence IMO.


12 posted on 01/23/2014 8:47:09 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Sam Gamgee
...the hunt against whistleblowers in general

I think that's the key right there. Obama promised to value and protect genuine whistleblowers. Obama was very clear about that.

Then he tried to crush anyone who did come forward. What's a genuine whistleblower to do?

13 posted on 01/23/2014 8:52:18 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: IMR 4350
tiss a BIT odd yes!


14 posted on 01/23/2014 8:59:27 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks..." -- Qur'an 47:4)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Ill have to look them up on Freeple!


15 posted on 01/23/2014 9:00:18 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks..." -- Qur'an 47:4)
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To: Old Sarge

Not just lefties. Cheney, Bolton and Michelle Bachmann have condemned him as well. There have been a number of others.


16 posted on 01/23/2014 9:00:46 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: txhurl
there are few "mere" coincidences


17 posted on 01/23/2014 9:01:17 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks..." -- Qur'an 47:4)
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To: Old Sarge
Snowden wrote the truth which enraged Leftists.

Well, I know over at DU they love him.

18 posted on 01/23/2014 9:08:53 AM PST by what's up
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Good!!


19 posted on 01/23/2014 9:36:05 AM PST by erikm88
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To: MeshugeMikey

Better yet, lets look at the question the “spontaneous” lie answered.

Before the attempted car bombing in NYC in 2010, the dems talking points were the TEA Party were a bunch of ultra violent, right wing extremist, Tim McVeigh wannabes.

After the attempted bombing the left claimed their talking points were correct because the bomb was a fertilizer bomb just like Tim McVeigh used.

Here’s the question.

Did the dems orchestrate the talking points about the TEA Party for the attack, or did the terrorist pick up on the dems talking points and plan the attack around it?

Here’s the answer you get with the “spontaneous” lie from Benghazi.

The dems didn’t orchestrate the talking points for the attack, the terrorist simply picked up on the dems talking points from the news and “spontaneously’ planned the attack to reflect the dems talking points.

See how convenient it all is.


20 posted on 01/23/2014 9:38:48 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350
Id love to see a Hillary Clinton V.S. Edward Snowden Debate....or a duel come to think of it.


21 posted on 01/23/2014 9:42:41 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks..." -- Qur'an 47:4)
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To: what's up; MeshugeMikey; txhurl; Buckeye McFrog; Old Sarge; NFHale; Leaning Right; Morpheus2009; ...
>>Snowden wrote the truth which enraged Leftists.
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> Well, I know over at DU they love him.

There's a reason for that; it's not that they hate America (though I'm sure some do), it's because the violations he exposed were terrible injustice — the "other side" likes to conflate things using the basic-idea/faulty-logic that to discriminate is bad, so to be indiscriminate is good. (Hour long vid explanation.)

But there's something good there that's being co-opted: a desire for Justice. (Satan tries to turn what is good to evil purposes.)

In the article John Boyd’s Roll Call: Do You Want to Be Someone or Do Something?
[direct link], Col. Boyd phrased things this way:

“Tiger, one day you will come to a fork in the road: And you’re going to have to make a decision about which direction you want to go.”
He raised his hand and pointed. “If you go that way you can be somebody. You will have to make compromises and you will have to turn your back on your friends. But you will be a member of the club and you will get promoted and you will get good assignments.
Then Boyd raised his other hand and pointed another direction. “Or you can go that way and you can do something — something for your country and for your Air Force and for yourself. If you decide you want to do something, you may not get promoted and you may not get the good assignments and you certainly will not be a favorite of your superiors. But you won’t have to compromise yourself. You will be true to your friends and to yourself. And your work might make a difference. To be somebody or to do something. In life there is often a roll call. That’s when you will have to make a decision. To be or to do? Which way will you go?”
Snowden chose to do something.
22 posted on 01/23/2014 10:24:54 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Ken H

“Cheney, Bolton and Michelle Bachmann have condemned him as well.”

I always wonder how it was possible to start a impeachment process against Bill Clinton for not keeping his wiener under control, when the house misserably fails to start a impeachment process on Obama for spying millions of US citizens ?


23 posted on 01/23/2014 12:13:18 PM PST by SgtBilko
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To: SgtBilko
how it was possible to start a impeachment process against Bill Clinton for not keeping his wiener under control

Because Clinton's impeachment was about perjury and Broderick's rape, not sex. To date, Obama has not been caught. Perhaps Snowden has the evidence.

24 posted on 01/23/2014 12:21:55 PM PST by Kennard
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Is anybody following on Twitter? I don’t know how to maneuver around Twitter...I’m hangin’ around in hopes somebody will be tossing us some crumbs. :p


25 posted on 01/23/2014 12:29:12 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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Found this: http://www.freesnowden.is/asksnowden/


26 posted on 01/23/2014 12:36:03 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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@VilleThompson What do you think about Obama’s whistleblowing protection act? #AskSnowden

One of the things that has not been widely reported by journalists is that whistleblower protection laws in the US do not protect contractors in the national security arena. There are so many holes in the laws, the protections they afford are so weak, and the processes for reporting they provide are so ineffective that they appear to be intended to discourage reporting of even the clearest wrongdoing. If I had revealed what I knew about these unconstitutional but classified programs to Congress, they could have charged me with a felony. One only need to look at the case of Thomas Drake to see how the government doesn’t have a good history of handling legitimate reports of wrongdoing within the system.


27 posted on 01/23/2014 12:39:40 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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@auerfeld #AskSnowden do you think it’s a shame that #Obama gave his #NSA speech before his Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board reported?

The timing of his speech seems particularly interesting, given that it was accompanied by so many claims that “these programs have not been abused.”

Even if we accept the NSA’s incredibly narrow definition of abuse, which is “someone actually broke the rules so badly we had to investigate them for it,” we’ve seen more instances of identified, intentional abuse than we have seen instances where this unconstitutional mass phone surveillance stopped any kind of terrorist plot at all — even something less than an attack.

To back that up with the government’s own numbers, according to the NSA Inspector General, we’ve seen at least 12 specific, intentional cases of “abuse” by the NSA.

In contrast, the federal government’s independent PCLOB report on the NSA’s mass phone surveillance today (which stated the NSA has spied on at least 120,000,000 American phones under this program) said this:

“We are aware of no instance in which the program directly contributed to the discovery of a previously unknown terrorist plot or the disruption of a terrorist attack.”

At the press conference, Judge Wald stated this program, which has been operated in secret for years, has no basis in law. The panel determined this kind of mass surveillance is illegal and should be ended.

When even the federal government says the NSA violated the constitution at least 120 million times under a single program, but failed to discover even a single “plot,” it’s time to end “bulk collection,” which is a euphemism for mass surveillance. There is simply no justification for continuing an unconstitutional policy with a 0% success rate.

In light of another independent confirmation of this fact, I think Americans should look to the White House and Congress to close the book entirely on the 215 BR provision.


28 posted on 01/23/2014 12:43:06 PM PST by SgtBilko
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@MichaelHargrov1 #AskSnowden Was the privacy of your co-workers considered while you were stealing their log-in and password information?

With all due respect to Mark Hosenball, the Reuters report that put this out there was simply wrong. I never stole any passwords, nor did I trick an army of co-workers.


29 posted on 01/23/2014 12:49:15 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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@RagBagUSA #AskSnowden what (in your opinion) is the appropriate extent of US national security apparatus? Surely some spying is needed?

Not all spying is bad. The biggest problem we face right now is the new technique of indiscriminate mass surveillance, where governments are seizing billions and billions and billions of innocents’ communication every single day. This is done not because it’s necessary — after all, these programs are unprecedented in US history, and were begun in response to a threat that kills fewer Americans every year than bathtub falls and police officers — but because new technologies make it easy and cheap.

I think a person should be able to dial a number, make a purchase, send an SMS, write an email, or visit a website without having to think about what it’s going to look like on their permanent record. Particularly when we now have courts, reports from the federal government, and even statements from Congress making it clear these programs haven’t made us any more safe, we need to push back.

This is a global problem, and America needs to take the lead in fixing it. If our government decides our Constitution’s 4th Amendment prohibition against unreasonable seizures no longer applies simply because that’s a more efficient means of snooping, we’re setting a precedent that immunizes the government of every two-bit dictator to perform the same kind of indiscriminate, dragnet surveillance of entire populations that the NSA is doing.

It’s not good for our country, it’s not good for the world, and I wasn’t going to stand by and watch it happen, no matter how much it cost me. The NSA and the rest of the US Intelligence Community is exceptionally well positioned to meet our intelligence requirements through targeted surveillance — the same way we’ve always done it — without resorting to the mass surveillance of entire populations.

When we’re sophisticated enough to be able to break into any device in the world we want to (up to and including Angela Merkel’s phone, if reports are to be believed), there’s no excuse to wasting our time collecting the call records of grandmothers in Missouri.


30 posted on 01/23/2014 12:52:37 PM PST by SgtBilko
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@Valio_ch #asksnowden Do you think that the Watchdog Report by Privacy & Civil Liberties Oversight Board will have any impact at all?

I don’t see how Congress could ignore it, as it makes it clear there is no reason at all to maintain the 215 program. Let me quote from the official report:

“Cessation of the program would eliminate the privacy and civil liberties concerns associated with bulk collection without unduly hampering the government’s efforts, while ensuring that any governmental requests for telephone calling records are tailored to the needs of specific investigations.”


31 posted on 01/23/2014 12:55:20 PM PST by SgtBilko
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To: MeshugeMikey; FReepers; Patriots

12 p.m. PT Thursday

Questions for Snowden can be submitted on Twitter on Thursday using the #AskSnowden hashtag.


32 posted on 01/23/2014 12:57:12 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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@jaketapper #AskSnowden Under what conditions would you agree to return to the U.S.?

Returning to the US, I think, is the best resolution for the government, the public, and myself, but it’s unfortunately not possible in the face of current whistleblower protection laws, which through a failure in law did not cover national security contractors like myself.

The hundred-year old law under which I’ve been charged, which was never intended to be used against people working in the public interest, and forbids a public interest defense. This is especially frustrating, because it means there’s no chance to have a fair trial, and no way I can come home and make my case to a jury.

Maybe when Congress comes together to end the programs the PCLOB just announced was illegal, they’ll reform the Whistleblower Protection Act, and we’ll see a mechanism for all Americans, no matter who they work for, to get a fair trial.


33 posted on 01/23/2014 1:10:15 PM PST by SgtBilko
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Hi, Ed. This is Jim in Langley, Virginia. Where are you? Can you post some exact GPS coordinates? Thx.

Hi Jim. I am sitting here in the lounge at KGB headquarters with my new best pal, Vlad. We are going over old reports of just where to land nukes on Langley. Oh, and we KNOW the exact GPS coordinates. Smile.

34 posted on 01/23/2014 1:33:51 PM PST by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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@mperkel #ASKSNOWDEN They say it’s a balance of privacy and safety. I think spying makes us less safe. do you agree?

Intelligence agencies do have a role to play, and the people at the working level at the NSA, CIA, or any other member of the IC are not out to get you. They’re good people trying to do the right thing, and I can tell you from personal experience that they were worried about the same things I was.

The people you need to watch out for are the unaccountable senior officials authorizing these unconstitutional programs, and unreliable mechanisms like the secret FISA court, a rubber-stamp authority that approves 99.97% of government requests (which denied only 11 requests out of 33,900 in 33 years http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/06/fisa-court-nsa-spying-opinion-reject-request. They’re the ones that get us into trouble with the Constitution by letting us go too far.

And even the President now agrees our surveillance programs are going too far, gathering massive amounts of private records on ordinary Americans who have never been suspected of any crime. This violates our constitutional protection against unlawful searches and seizure. Collecting phone and email records for every American is a waste of money, time and human resources that could be better spent pursuing those the government has reason to suspect are a serious threat.

I’m going to stop here. My deepest thanks to everyone who sent questions, and whether or not we agree on where the lines should be drawn, I encourage you to contact your members of congress and tell them how you feel about mass surveillance. This is a global problem, and the first step to tackling it is by working together to fix it at home.

If you’d like to more ideas on how to push back against unconstitutional surveillance, consider taking a look at the organizations working together to organize https://thedaywefightback.org/ .


35 posted on 01/23/2014 1:55:26 PM PST by SgtBilko
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To: RetiredArmy

36 posted on 01/23/2014 1:59:32 PM PST by SgtBilko
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To: SgtBilko
Xlinton was impeached for committing perjury to a Federal judge in a sexual harassment lawsuit he was attempting to control the outcome.
37 posted on 01/23/2014 2:17:30 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: SgtBilko

The problem for the intel community is that they’re providing no net benefit for all their snooping:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/independent-review-board-says-nsa-phone-data-program-is-illegal-and-should-end/2014/01/22/4cebd470-83dd-11e3-bbe5-6a2a3141e3a9_story.html

The money quotes:

“We have not identified a single instance involving a threat to the United States in which the telephone records program made a concrete difference in the outcome of a counterterrorism investigation...”

and

“The failure to identify Mihdhar’s presence in the United States stemmed primarily from a lack of information sharing among federal agencies, not of a lack of surveillance capabilities,” the report said, noting that in early 2000 the CIA knew Mihdhar had a visa enabling him to enter the United States but did not advise the FBI or watchlist him. “...This was a failure to connect the dots, not a failure to connect enough dots.”

That wraps it up for me. If the NSA can’t point out actual wins, then roll them up, turn the building over to the private sector for commercial real estate and call it done. With the room-temperature IQ of some of the terrorists out there, if they can’t find actionable intel with all the capabilities they have, then the NSA is worse than useless.


38 posted on 01/23/2014 2:29:13 PM PST by NVDave
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To: OneWingedShark

I so agree. Can’t make myself see Snowden as anything but a whistle blower for the sake of the American people, willing to pay a terrible price— maybe the ultimate one before this ends.

As for his escape to Russia, why not Russia? Putin at this time is more alligned with the American *right* than Obama ever was, and has the same contempt. Who else offered to accomodate Snowden, big enough to make Obama back off?

As for the “secrets”, Snowden already distributed them to reporters in London.

Where would we be without Snowden.?


39 posted on 01/23/2014 4:10:39 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Hi Jim! I'm at 37°38′48″N 115°44′43″W, but only until 1100 zulu. My friends will be spririting me away after that.
40 posted on 01/23/2014 4:22:13 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: onyx

I musta missed the whole thing by now...


41 posted on 01/23/2014 4:24:16 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks..." -- Qur'an 47:4)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Cap the red r.


42 posted on 01/23/2014 5:06:22 PM PST by upchuck (Stop this abuse now! Get behind Convention of States: http://bit.ly/1ak1Iz9)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Does he happen to have the info on Barry by any chance?

If he does, O may just order a drone strike inside Mother Russia. /kinda-half-joking


43 posted on 01/23/2014 5:08:43 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: upchuck
good plan.


44 posted on 01/23/2014 6:25:00 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks..." -- Qur'an 47:4)
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To: Morpheus2009

The once prestigious intelligence agency is now stained while the abusing politicians skate. Snowden revealed nothing but a diversion.


45 posted on 01/23/2014 6:38:23 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

There ya go. Now it’s official :)


46 posted on 01/23/2014 8:29:44 PM PST by upchuck (Stop this abuse now! Get behind Convention of States: http://bit.ly/1ak1Iz9)
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To: upchuck

Its a shame I cant set up and actual FREEPER Search engine...and post it behind that graphic image....as that would require code that this software wont allow posters to use.

Im sure not going to link to google....


47 posted on 01/23/2014 8:58:41 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks..." -- Qur'an 47:4)
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To: Old Sarge

Excellent way to have a bigger look at Snowden:

“Ed Snowden: the new Salman Rushdie.

But instead of a work of fiction which enraged Muslims, Snowden wrote the truth which enraged Leftists.”


48 posted on 01/24/2014 10:02:32 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obamacare is a Trinity of Lies! Obamaganda is failing 24/7/365! Obamaganda witholl fail 24/7/365!)
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To: Ken H

Every politician who condemns Snowden has a problem. Be loyal to the NSA when you KNOW what they have on you? Or support Snowden when you DON’T know what HE has on you.


49 posted on 01/24/2014 10:47:11 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: MeshugeMikey
Its a shame I cant set up and actual FREEPER Search engine...and post it behind that graphic image....as that would require code that this software wont allow posters to use.

Im sure not going to link to google....

Link to the FReeper Search Engine: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/search

Regarding the search engine, link to Start Page or Duck Duck Go or others that don't track and spy.

50 posted on 01/24/2014 2:55:58 PM PST by upchuck (Stop this abuse now! Get behind Convention of States: http://bit.ly/1ak1Iz9)
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