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1 posted on 01/18/2014 2:52:53 PM PST by upchuck
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To: upchuck

“To have really lived, you must have almost died. To those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.”


2 posted on 01/18/2014 3:00:26 PM PST by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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self ping to read later……...


3 posted on 01/18/2014 3:00:32 PM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: upchuck
A recent response to this exchange at "Foreign Policy"

Yes, Marcus. They did die in vain.

5 posted on 01/18/2014 3:10:23 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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I don’t believe for a second that Tapper had his set Tapper straight in the sense that Tapper’s mind was changed about Afghanistan or the Navy Seals’ mission there.

No Tapper still believes that Afghanistan is/was a mistake and I am sure that he believes that the Seals are mind numbed robots and baby killers.

Tapper is a hopeless America hating Progressive Marxist. His mind is as unchangeable as the tides.

6 posted on 01/18/2014 3:17:14 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: upchuck

The Video link no longer works, removed from YouTube.


8 posted on 01/18/2014 3:48:29 PM PST by 4Speed
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Video removed as deceptive and a scam.

HUH??

10 posted on 01/18/2014 4:01:16 PM PST by what's up
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Just got back from seeing the movie - I felt pissed that we have a president that is pissing so much of that away - much more so than watching Black Hawk Down and loathing Klinton.


12 posted on 01/18/2014 4:44:11 PM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: upchuck

Just saw the movie and thought.... yeah, a woman on the team would have made a difference. That is if she can fit it in to her busy schedule after her year sabbatical.


14 posted on 01/18/2014 4:52:18 PM PST by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: upchuck
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things.
The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.
The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

John Stuart Mill

19 posted on 01/18/2014 6:13:35 PM PST by Larry381 ("God is dead." (Nietzsche, 1885) "Nietzsche is dead." (God, 1900))
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To: upchuck
Hey, upchuck: Sorry your thread got poisoned.

I resisted commenting the first time this the Tapper video came up; I should have just kept my metaphorical mouth shut.

Luttrell's response was 100% on target & Tapper was unusually incompetent. Not defending him, but I'd wager he didn't have creative control. But...whatever. Interesting thread at the link below. Among the comments:

Jake Tapper defends tense interview with ‘Lone Survivor’ Marcus Luttrell

Sean Parnell @SeanParnellUSA

@jaketapper asked a question I hear all the time from civilians. @MarcusLuttrell answered like a true warrior should.

@SeanParnellUSA @MarcusLuttrell that's why I aired it, though I knew it was uncomfortable – to shine a light on that disconnect—
Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) January 11, 2014

@jaketapper Convos like that need to happen a thousand times a day, everyday until America understands what our warriors have been through.—
Sean Parnell (@SeanParnellUSA) January 11, 2014


44 posted on 01/19/2014 12:14:38 PM PST by logi_cal869
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I have seen the movie and I think everyone over 18 should see it. I saw very brave men giving their all for the mission they were sent to do.

I am embarrassed that our country tied their hands behind their backs when we sent them with the rules they were expected to follow. The goat herders had a sat. phone so were obviously affiliated with the Taliban. The SEALS should have been able to treat them as enemy combatants, armed or not. There are such a thing as enemy spies and we used to understand that. I am also embarrassed that communications for the SEALS were so poor- the plane they were in contact with left, why was it not replaced by another? Why did it seem there were not enough helicopters available when needed? Support needed for the mission seemed to be lacking.

I do not think the men that died did so in vain, or needlessly. They did their job, and then some. I have a lot of pride in men like that who serve to protect all of us. I think our country needs to do the right thing when we send people to fight, make sure they have the support they need and do not take political correctness to war.


50 posted on 01/19/2014 1:17:12 PM PST by Tammy8
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