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Regis Martin is Professor of Theology and Faculty Associate with the Veritas Center for Ethics in Public Life at the Franciscan University of Steubenville. He earned a licentiate and a doctorate in sacred theology from the Pontifical University of St. Thomas Aquinas in Rome. Martin is the author of a number of books, including, most recently, Still Point: Loss, Longing, and Our Search for God (2012). He resides in Steubenville, Ohio, with his wife and ten children.
1 posted on 01/07/2014 9:55:32 AM PST by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...
“In Italy,” as one observer wryly put it, “they don’t have children. They have dogs and cats.”

Ditto in the US.

2 posted on 01/07/2014 9:56:14 AM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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The documentary, entitled Demographic Winter, can be found here, and watched here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZeyYIsGdAA

Even some secular professors will admit that those who are religious and poor, will pretty much make up the majority of the population.


3 posted on 01/07/2014 9:58:52 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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I think feminism bears much of the blame for this.

Feminism teaches women to men and men to be women. When this happens, procreation becomes more of a challenge.


4 posted on 01/07/2014 9:59:05 AM PST by staytrue
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To: NYer

I did my part. Others have to do the same.


6 posted on 01/07/2014 10:02:29 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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I am astounded at the number of people I know of my generation who fall into one of these categories:
  1. Never married
  2. Married but no children
  3. Married with only one child
On the bright side, we and our children are doing our part to make up for it.

PS: Most of the above have nicer homes, cars and vacations than we, but our weekends and holidays more fun.

7 posted on 01/07/2014 10:06:10 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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Chesterton on birth control/population control:

In 1925 Chesterton wrote an introduction to Charles Dickens’ A Christmas Carol in which he said that “The answer to anyone who talks about the surplus population is to ask him, whether he is part of the surplus population; or if not, how he knows he is not.”

8 posted on 01/07/2014 10:07:20 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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As an Italian-raised Catholic with a large family, it is devastating to watch what it happening around me. My father’s oldest sister has three children, one of whom is gay, another who is married and avowed to not conceive, and another who is still too young to pin but is born of another man than the first two. My father’s youngest sister bore one boy before menopause, and he’s turning out to be a future convict.

My younger brother is yet to be married, and he turned 31 on Sunday. If there’s anyone who might, I believe it to be him. I turn 34 in a few weeks, but my wife is 6 years my senior and due to turn 40 in February. To say that I hear her clock ticking louder than she does is an understatement, but she’s an only child. We live very comfortably and give generously. As much as I want children, I’m starting to accede to the fact that it might not happen. It breaks my heart knowing that the entire next generation of my family might not exist or be left solely to one man who still has to put his life together after a decade-long battle with substance abuse.

On top of all of this, my wife and I talk all the time about how unjust would it be to bring a child into the world as it is? There’s so much death and destruction in our world now, and I feel like I would be helpless to make a child’s life great with so much devastation on the horizon.

I will continue to try until her very last eggs, but even as we do, I can’t help but think I’ll be dying without any children at my bedside; and it makes me feel so empty.


9 posted on 01/07/2014 10:07:55 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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...one can always wander through the alleyways of the ancient city in search of the birthplace of Christopher Columbus, who long ago left Genoa to go in search of a New World.

No, he was looking for India. He found a place with people and called them Indians..............

10 posted on 01/07/2014 10:09:22 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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Meanwhile islamic women in Europe are having 6 babies per woman. Problem solved.


20 posted on 01/07/2014 10:27:38 AM PST by lurk
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I think a major part of the problem is the flight of jobs to other countries and the government’s debasement of the value of our currency. People who can afford to have children tend to have them. But if they not only can’t afford it, but fear for what little income they do have, they decide against having kids. I asked my renters, both of whom work at Wal-Mart if they’re going to have a second child. The husband told me, “There’s no way I can see a future where we could afford to raise a second child.” (They’re both sweet kids and I wanted to steer them into a bigger unit. I’m giving them a good deal on 1000 sq ft, but he’s right, they can’t afford a 3/2 even at the discount I’d give them for being such good renters.)


22 posted on 01/07/2014 10:28:07 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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My 18 cousins(both sides), all baby boomers; had 19 children. A 1.05 replacement rate. A population half life or 30 years. Sad.

Pretty soon it will be Detroit everywhere. Subdivisions back to farms, feral dogs and Muslims in the city.


33 posted on 01/07/2014 10:52:07 AM PST by cicero2k
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Somebody’s making babies in Italy, and it ain’t Italians.


35 posted on 01/07/2014 10:55:53 AM PST by dfwgator
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This problem in Italy and Europe cannot be understated. I spend a lot of time in Milan. It is a novelty to see parents pushing a stroller for a walk in the park.


37 posted on 01/07/2014 10:58:10 AM PST by cornfedcowboy
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In defense of DINKYs. . .
Lots of folks should never have kids. Lousy parents make lousy kids.
Lots of people can’t care for children without destroying them.
Lots of people hate children.
Lots of people abuse children.

If you will love your children, make a bunch of ‘em.


38 posted on 01/07/2014 11:00:03 AM PST by Macoozie (1) Win the Senate 2) Repeal Obamacare 3) Impeach Roberts)
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Would it surprise you to know that many of them are Muslim?

How about MOST of them are Muslim?

48 posted on 01/07/2014 11:29:38 AM PST by Salvey
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I’ve pointed out on FR going on 10 years now a simple reasoning that goes like this:

—> Higher Taxes and Inflation
—> Women moved to workforce
—> Female Independence
—> More Divorce, Abortion and Lower Fertility Rates
—> Demographic Vacuum sucking more Foreign Immigration
—> Cultural Changes that are Un-American
—> Public Education Abandons Moral Instruction
—> Hedonism, Selfishness, More Divorce and Lower Fertility Rates

A vicious cyle is created with the root laying at higher taxes and men unable to support a family.

All of the the above and the following has developed since the 1960s.

1. The income tax bite on the middle class has doubled and the average family budget portion for the family home mortgage has nearly tripled. This is the result of increased government and Fed Reserve induced inflation on home values. This is not free market capitalism at work, this is greed at work and a government that does not know its limits.

2. The failure of family budgeting has caused women to enter the workforce in droves and has spurred egalitarianism with respect to gender. Women working compelled younger women to seek higher education and to climb income ladders within organizations. Higher incomes for women have made them less dependent on men who lost their role as traditional breadwinners. Independent minded women are also less attractive to traditional men. The result is childbearing is put off until the biological clocks force women to settle with an often further result of divorce while maintaining independence and having children.

3. Public education has eviscerated Christianity from the classrooms and auditoriums. This has led to young people with no firm moral grounding. Hence, divorce, hedonism and selfishness have pervaded the culture in the name of “Let’s have fun!” and “What’s in it for me?”. Critical thinking is a thing of the past. Everything fashionable is based on going along to get along with an occasional argument based on moral relativism and most importantly public education fosters a ‘never question authority’ ethos.

All of this started with massive taxation on the middle class. The tax code must be reformed. The FairTax is by far the best solution for federal tax reform.


49 posted on 01/07/2014 11:30:54 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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“They say, ‘Make babies; it’s our future,’ but how can you really?”

They’ve forgotten how to do that? In Italy?

64 posted on 01/07/2014 12:13:22 PM PST by RichInOC (2013-14 Tiber Swim Team)
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To: NYer; Black Agnes

War daddy

Father of 5

I would had 10....easy for me to say right girls?

God I do love making em....if u got the right lady like I do


84 posted on 01/07/2014 2:12:50 PM PST by wardaddy (wifey instructed me today to grow chapter president beard back again....i wonder why?)
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Alas, Brave New Babylon 60-second Youtube trailer

Link to the full-text Free Republic thread.

91 posted on 01/07/2014 4:32:37 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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People do not want to birth children right now. Everyone feels, in the very air, the huge tidal wave of collapse and anarchy that is headed our way.

Children? Right now? You have to be out of your mind.

101 posted on 01/08/2014 1:32:14 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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