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1 posted on 01/02/2014 10:50:33 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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Ping to a thread by Jim Robinson: “We the people can nullify the unconstitutional ObamaCare ourselves!! Refuse to submit to tyranny!”


99 posted on 01/02/2014 12:55:37 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (We can thank Mitt Romney for the present situation in our country. His feet are made of clay.)
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Yes, exactly. The DC crowd has forgotten they govern by consent. We’re w/i our rights and authority to simply withdraw it by not obeying. Then what? Does anyone doubt they’ll attempt to use force and coercion? If you disobey be ready for the consequences b/c there will be consequences. Its not enough to just disobey...


100 posted on 01/02/2014 12:57:24 PM PST by 556x45
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To: Jim Robinson; ps
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101 posted on 01/02/2014 12:58:27 PM PST by tomkat
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YES! WE MUST STARVE THE BEAST!
103 posted on 01/02/2014 1:03:30 PM PST by Bellagio
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Considering the out fit that designed the website (iirc) also designed the software for the Canadian Long Gun registry, (which died after incredible cost overruns and a participation rate estimated at best at 50%), I think the way to kill this is just not go there.

I have a religious objection, anyway, and IMHO, that takes precedence over any statute. The First Amendment would back my position, honestly interpreted.

So, that is two reasons, and a simple third comes in as the government has no enumerated power to tax life itself. If the 'penalty' is a tax, that is what it is taxing.

Life was the first of the fundamental Rights mentioned in the Declaration of Independence.

Furthermore, that 'tax' was added in the Senate (not their job), not the House as is Constitutionally required, and as such is an illegal revenue measure.

If the "tax" is indeed a penalty, how can the government penalize one for not purchasing something--just because you are alive? There is no Constitutional Authority to do so.

At any rate, I'm not buying either.

104 posted on 01/02/2014 1:08:09 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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They have no enforcement mechanism. If you plan your deductions carefully you won’t allow the govt to hold your money interest free for a year before you file your taxes and you won’t be owed a refund so the government won’t be able to withold the penalty from your non-existent refund.


105 posted on 01/02/2014 1:08:52 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (The fundamental transformation resistance is futile you will be assimilated.)
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The key is to make sure you never get a refund, as there is no collection method except via tax refund.

So, under-withhold and write a check 4/15.

This has the added benefit of starving the beast as a whole.


110 posted on 01/02/2014 1:22:53 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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This family is not signing up for Obamacare. No way, not ever.


117 posted on 01/02/2014 1:35:11 PM PST by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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Until someone with the drawing power brings us in the 100’s of thousands to Washington to camp out in front of our house it will not gather enough steam.....


118 posted on 01/02/2014 1:39:17 PM PST by is_is (VP Dad of Sgt. G - My Hero - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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Don’t participate.....if you get sick go to the emergency room....they can’t turn you down. Make the bastards work for what they get!!!


120 posted on 01/02/2014 1:42:52 PM PST by ontap
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Tell that to all the morons who registered their guns in Connecticut recently.


130 posted on 01/02/2014 2:12:38 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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If I’m cancelled, I won’t sign up. I can only hope any incipient colon polyps will pipe down until the damned thing collapses.


132 posted on 01/02/2014 2:13:41 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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Absolutely! I will not comply!


144 posted on 01/02/2014 2:34:41 PM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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WHY HASN’T OBAMACARE BEEN TREATED LIKE STATES/CITIES TREAT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION? If cities and states can refuse to follow/support immigration laws then states can refuse to follow Obamacare laws. I have not seen anyone make this argument.


148 posted on 01/02/2014 2:58:20 PM PST by robert14 (cng)
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There is a lot of discussion these days about what the talking heads are calling “Health care”. Listening to them one would think that vast numbers of Americans were somehow prohibited from receiving medical treatment until the government passed a law requiring everyone to buy insurance. Well,that is certainly a relief.

I have always thought that, except for liability situations like operating a car on the public roadways or owning a facility that is open to the public, insurance - any insurance- is a bad idea. I do not understand why so many people don’t get the fact that the insurance companies make a profit because they work the odds. Just like a casino, they always win. They know that the odds are that you will pay in a lot more than they pay out.

In the case of health insurance, the consumer only wins if he develops a condition requiring expensive medical care over a long period of time. You call that winning? The insurance company, on the other hand, wins if you stay healthy and pay your premiums for a long time or die before they have to lay out too much money for treatment. The Doctor wins if he can keep you healthy enough to pay your premiums but sick enough to keep coming back for more tests and more prescriptions.

Catastrophic incident insurance with, say,a $10K deductible is a sensible precaution but the kind of “Health Care” being forced on us is no different than being forced to take your money to the casino where if you win you can look forward to subsidized suffering for as long as you can be milked for premiums or until you die. If you lose, you get to live a long and healthy life paying insurance premiums. Of course, “If you like your casino, you can keep your casino” the President said d;^)

No health care insurance for me. I am playing the odds like the proven winners, the insurance companies. I am putting my money away where I can decide how it gets spent. Of course, this course requires accepting personal responsibility for staying healthy and avoiding accidents. It also requires that we live within our means, foregoing frivolous expenditures and the use of credit to buy things we do not need or cannot afford. What a concept.

Here’s a thought: Offer your personal physician a retainer, like a lawyer. A few thousand dollars should do it. Then you know you will have a doctor who works for you and not the insurance company or the government. The doctor is then free to offer services and provide treatment without first consulting a third party to find out what he can or cannot do for you based on what the insurance company is willing to pay for.

Someone is bound to say that no one could afford it except the rich, but consider; my premiums when last I had health insurance were $800 a month. It adds up fast if you are putting it away for yourself instead of sending off a check every month to someone who will decide what treatment, if any, you “Qualify” for.


153 posted on 01/02/2014 3:07:12 PM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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“Can you believe there are people out there trying to talk people into not signing up for health insurance? It’s bizzare.” - Barrack Hussein Obama

It’s his base that he was talking about that’s pushing the “Opt Out” strategy. hee hee


156 posted on 01/02/2014 3:18:13 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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We the people can nullify Obama’s unconstitutional communist POS by simply refusing to submit.

That's the ticket.

Resistance to Tyranny is obedience to God.

We The People wield the ultimate power against blatant Tyranny.

Tyrannical Law should always be held in scorn, and scoffed at.

160 posted on 01/02/2014 3:41:58 PM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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Have no intention of signing up.


161 posted on 01/02/2014 3:42:36 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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The IRS can “tax” me for not signing up for Obamacare (thanks to Justice Roberts, but they can’t force me to sign up (at least at this point in time), so I will not. I will work out cash payments with my doctors.


167 posted on 01/02/2014 4:22:28 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (REMOVE ALL EXEMPTIONS, EXCEPTIONS, AND WAIVERS TO OBAMACARE)
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Yep.

And the law forbids the IRS from punishing Americans who refuse to pay the personal mandate fine/tax too, unlike other Federal income taxes.

And Dems are scared to even talk about that mandate now.


170 posted on 01/02/2014 5:05:09 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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