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John F. Kennedy's Vision of Peace (RFK Jr. barf alert, but did he reveal RFK was a KGB asset?)
Rolling Stone ^ | Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Posted on 01/01/2014 9:43:28 PM PST by Seizethecarp

Despite the Cold War rhetoric of his campaign, JFK's greatest ambition as president was to break the militaristic ideology that has dominated our country since World War II.

In the autumn of 1961, as retired Gen. Lucius Clay, who had taken a civilian post in Berlin, launched a series of unauthorized provocations against the Soviets, Khrushchev began an extraordinary secret correspondence with JFK. With the Berlin crisis moving toward nuclear Armageddon, Khrushchev turned to KGB agent Georgi Bolshakov, a top Soviet spy in Washington, to communicate directly with JFK. Bolshakov, to the horror of the U.S. State Department, was a friend of my parents and a frequent guest at our home. Bolshakov smuggled a letter, the first of 21 declassified in 1993, to JFK's press secretary, Pierre Salinger, in a folded newspaper. In it, Khrushchev expressed regret about Vienna and embraced JFK's proposal for a path to peace and disarmament.

...on October 16th, 1962, Kennedy saw aerial photographs proving that the Soviets had installed nuclear missiles in Cuba capable of reaching much of the eastern U.S.

... on October 27th, the crisis reignited when Soviet forces shot down a U.S. reconnaissance plane, killing its pilot, Maj. Rudolf Anderson. Almost immediately, the brass demanded overwhelming retaliation to destroy the Soviet missile sites. Meanwhile, Castro pushed the Kremlin military machine toward a devastating first strike. In a secret meeting with Ambassador Anatoly Dobrynin, my father told him, "If the situation continues much longer, the president is not sure that the military will not overthrow him and seize power."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: eisenhower; jfk; rfk; rfkjr; robertfkennedyjr; sovietunion
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1 posted on 01/01/2014 9:43:29 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
...is there ANYONE under 60 who reads Rolling Stone?
2 posted on 01/01/2014 9:44:41 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: Seizethecarp

I knew that Teddy engaged in treasonous back-door provision of intelligence to the Soviets that undermined Reagan, but RFK Jr. seems to be bragging about how both JFK and RFK provided intelligence about what was going on in the situation room between JFK and his military advisors to the KGB!

But this was laudable, according to RFK Jr., because it was all in support of JFK and RFK reaching out to peace-loving Khrushchev and opposing those nasty Commie-hating right-wing militarist warmongers at the Pentagon and CIA!


3 posted on 01/01/2014 9:51:16 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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these liberal media morons are some sick marxist sobs.who cares about jfk, or mlk? not me

they worship their marxist pagan idols, JFK, martin luthor king, mandela, clinton, chavez,obama. what aLL these cretins are is marxist peices crap,cockroaches

the kennedy’s gave us the 1965 immigration act which changed immigration to come from the europe to the 3rd world. this is the source of all our problems

socialism/government/democrats are the enemy of freedom

4 posted on 01/01/2014 9:55:22 PM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Democrat_media

The JFK media machine is the best this Country has seen.


5 posted on 01/01/2014 10:06:24 PM PST by scooby321
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To: scooby321

can you elaborate?


6 posted on 01/01/2014 10:07:57 PM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Seizethecarp

RFK Jr. also fails to mention that his peace-loving uncle and father deposed Diem and were trying to assassinate Castro.

Today the Cuomo, de Blasio, Kennedy, Clinton, and Obama teams (with Caroline just appointed ambassador to Japan) had a big love-in in NYC that will attempt to lay the groundwork for re-framing the narrative of all of them and their kin as progressive anti-war paragons...all to defeat an attack on Hillary from the progressive left in 2016. RFK Jr. is just doing his part to help out, it seems.


7 posted on 01/01/2014 10:09:50 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

Hoagland says something very similar but adds that Kennedy proposed to Krushchev a joint mission to the Moon.
http://www.enterprisemission.com/newfrontier.htm


8 posted on 01/01/2014 10:16:15 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Seizethecarp

Heroin addict RFK, Jr. appears to fully accept the KGB version of history.


9 posted on 01/01/2014 10:25:11 PM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: Seizethecarp

You are an idiot if you believe anything this idiot says. RFK was an extreme anticommunist. He was a protege of Senator McCarthy, and McCarthy was the Godfather of his eldest child. (Kathleen Kennedy Townsend)


10 posted on 01/01/2014 10:42:38 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Democrat_media

How is JFK a marxist pagan idol? We’ve on;y had one president that could be to the right of him since then. JFK was MILES t the right of the Bushes, or Nixon.


11 posted on 01/01/2014 10:44:59 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Tzimisce

“...is there ANYONE under 60 who reads Rolling Stone?”

There seems to be a new meme here at FR lately where 60 is some sort of cut off between people who “get it” and those who don’t.


12 posted on 01/01/2014 10:52:47 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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your marxist JFK wanted to change the “discrimanatory “ immigration of the USA. his brother carried it out in the 1965 immigration act which changed immigration to the USA. before this act immigration to the USA cam from Europe. after it immigration came from the 3rd world . this change in immigration is the root of all our problems and your marxist idol was instrumental in America’s destruction. the democrats use these massive wave of immigrant minorities in a game of racial marxism(they vote for democarts/socialism

does a conservative say immigration is discriminatory? no that's what the marxists say.

President John F. Kennedy's immigration message to Congress on July 23, 1963, assailed the national origins quota system as having "no basis in either logic or reason." He complained,

"It neither satisfies a national need nor accomplishes an international purpose. In an age of interdependence among nations, such a system is an anachronism for it discriminates among applicants for admission into the United States on the basis of the accident of birth." (Kennedy, John F., Public Papers of the Presidents of the United States, U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, D.C., 1964, pp. 594-597.)

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5391395

By the 1960s, Greeks, Poles, Portuguese and Italians were complaining that immigration quotas discriminated against them in favor of Western Europeans. The Democratic Party took up their cause, led by President John F. Kennedy. In a June 1963 speech to the American Committee on Italian Migration, Kennedy called the system of quotas in place back then “ nearly intolerable.”

After Kennedy's assassination, Congress passed, and President Lyndon Johnson, signed the Immigration and Naturalization Act. It leveled the immigration playing field, giving a nearly equal shot to newcomers from every corner of the world. The ceremony was held at the foot of the symbolically powerful Statue of Liberty. Yet President Johnson tried to downplay the law's significance.

“This bill that we will sign today is not a revolutionary bill. It does not affect the lives of millions,” Johnson said at the signing ceremony. “It will not reshape the structure of our daily lives or add importantly to either
our wealth or our power.”

Looking back, Johnson's statement is remarkable because it proved so wrong.

13 posted on 01/01/2014 11:09:09 PM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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Reagan gave blanket amnesty to illegal immigrants. And by the time he did that there was evidence it was a bad thing. In the 60's, they were still trying to figure out 70 years or more of weird immigration policy.

According to you Reagan is a, "Marxist pagan idol?"


Apparently, you are pro-taxes, pro-communism, pro-abortion, and pro-gay marriage.

14 posted on 01/01/2014 11:18:51 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: dagogo redux

You’d have to be in your 60’s to even remember when JFK was in office.

I read about his death in my high school history class.

After fifty years, who CARES who shot JFK? Does it really matter? Does it have any real baring on the modern day?

I’m tired of having these ancient events thrown in my face. They might have been earth shattering when the guys who write Rolling Stone were young, but not me.

In fact, doesn’t “Rolling Stone” get its name from the band? By the time I was old enough to go to a Stones concert, it was a “One more for the good old days” tour.


15 posted on 01/01/2014 11:29:48 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: nickcarraway
before the 1965 immigration act(inspired by JFK) American immigration came from Europe

after from the 3rd world

This changed demographics as was the intent

this act is what has caused all our problems .without the legal 3rd world immigrant already here to provide a home base for them to integrate too illegal immigration wouldn't be a problem. we didn't have any illegal immigration problems before this act.

you must be proud of the floods of 3rd world immigrants your marxist idol jfk allowed into the USA to destroy the USA

I couldn't care less about jfk nor any democrat. the liberal media reporters all worship your marxist jfk . and you say jfk was a conservative. so they worship a conservative? LOL LOL LOL .lol the media worship a conservative lol lol lol
you are a democrat all you do is praise democrats and bash Reagan etc. Reagan was a great man. and that burns you doesn't it? Reagan said "government is not the solution to our problems , government is the problem" = greatest quote ever

no go along with the liberal media reporters go worship your big jacko lantern head marxist jfk i couldn't care less about jfk nor what you say

16 posted on 01/01/2014 11:36:00 PM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Tzimisce
...is there ANYONE under 60 who reads Rolling Stone?

I'd hate to guess who the heck reads that fish wrap, age notwithstanding.
LOL.

17 posted on 01/01/2014 11:38:39 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Tzimisce

What happened then shaped what is happening now.


18 posted on 01/01/2014 11:49:26 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Democrat_media
You are an idiot. I did not bash Reagan. You bashed Reagan for the 1986 amnesty. He is a great president, but it was a mistake.

You admit you want to see this country turned into European socialism.

Also, why can't you learn to read/write English? What is your native language?

19 posted on 01/01/2014 11:51:37 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Seizethecarp
"In the autumn of 1961, as retired Gen. Lucius Clay, who had taken a civilian post in Berlin, launched a series of unauthorized provocations against the Soviets..." - RFK, Jr. for Rolling Stone

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Complete lie above. Clay (the Kaiser) was sent to Berlin...drum roll...by JFK...drum roll...AFTER the Berlin Crisis began.

It was Clay who organized the Berlin Airlift that avoided sending in the U.S. Army to relieve the besieged city.

Clay avoided WW3.

...and then got slandered by RFK, Jr. as a war provocateur.

F'n liberal liars...

20 posted on 01/01/2014 11:54:33 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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