Posted on 12/31/2013 2:35:18 PM PST by rickmichaels
SAN FRANCISCO - Apple Inc responded on Tuesday to reports that the National Security Agency had developed a system to hack into and monitor iPhones called "Dropout Jeep," saying it never worked with the U.S. spy agency and was unaware of efforts to target its smartphones
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Possible. But Who makes the chips in the product?
China. Who do we owe?
Right. They TOLD us what to do.
There was no DEAL to be worked on! :)
We had a long discussion on the Apple iPhone not being able to have spyware installed UNLESS it is JAILBROKEN. It can’t be done remotely or from a link - because of the “sandboxing” and design of the iOS and also because you can ONLY get the software from the Apple Authorized site.
NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3098245/posts
Unless you jailbreak your iPhone, that’s not going to happen (with the NSA). And if you think someone else has jailbroken it, you can completely erase everything and reload directly from Apple. And, by the way, you shouldn’t jailbreak the phone, since it takes away the protections that Apple has put up to prevent others from doing this to you - and it voids the warranty, too.
Very simply put, that is not going to happen on an iPhone, unless you let someone have it for a whole and they did something to the phone, without you knowing it. And if so, you can solve that problem by completing reloading the iOS (operating system).
Good ‘legal weasel-word’ analysis. Bet you that you are dead-on.
So either Apple is not being honest, or their phones cant keep out the NSA, or any other hacker.
If you have an iPhone, and if you have not jailbroken it (which you should not do because you will end up overriding Apple’s protections) - you then know that you can’t download any such (even “cheap”) app from Apple’s App Store - without signing in with the owner’s password (you should have a strong password, too).
AND ... Apple does not have any such spyware, in the Apple App Store, where this can be done. It’s ONLY JAILBROKEN iPHONES that can have that, and you should NEVER jailbreak your iPhone for security reasons!
See this one discussion at the Apple website ...
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5070810
NOW ... mind you ... I’m not talking about the Android phones - which ARE INSECURE or the other phones on the market. You CAN do it with those other phones — but NOT on a NON-JAILBROKEN iPHONE.
These conspiracies stories are sounding more idiotic each day.
There are limits on what management can know about what’s inside their electronic products. A high level tech manager working for the NSA could sneak about anything into the code burned into the chips.
So we should believe Apple, along with RSA, Microsoft, AT&T, Cisco...... sure, right.
The NSA is converting millions to open source software just like Obama is gun salesman of the year.
Got rid of my Droid...piece of crap and the OS really stinks.
National Security Letters make companies wet themselves and say all manner of manglespeak.
But the real question is.....
We all know that the NSA has the capability and have installed spyware/malware on many devices. The ability to turn on cameras, microphones, read documents, essentially own the device. None of that is disputed. The question is, how do they transmit the data back in a manner that is not detectable by the numerous network monitoring tools available? Any geek with wireshark should be able to detect the traffic and post his discovery to the internet. But nobody has...... Think about that for a bit.
Technically, Apple’s message was:
“It” “never” “worked” “with” “the” “U.S.” “spy” “agency”.
You have to parse it a tad. Like Bill Clinton parsed “is”.
I’m probably the only doofus around who has only an old Samsung flip phone. I refuse to upgrade it, since I only use it for phone calls. I refuse to do texting, and I have it blocked on my little flip phone.
Anybody who wants to reach me can either call my cell phone of email me.
Bull$#it. Apple collaborated with the NSA just the same as Microsoft did. Like Microsoft, they were likely unwilling and did so under threat as is indicated by the MS Windows 8 registry key for the NSA back door that starts off as “NSA_***”
Nothing to worry about. Nothing at all. /sarcasm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=b0w36GAyZIA
Especially see 0:44 for a discussion of Apple vulnerabilities.
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