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1 posted on 12/31/2013 2:35:18 PM PST by rickmichaels
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Possible. But Who makes the chips in the product?

China. Who do we owe?


2 posted on 12/31/2013 2:38:12 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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Right. They TOLD us what to do.
There was no DEAL to be worked on! :)


3 posted on 12/31/2013 2:38:56 PM PST by SparkyBass
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We had a long discussion on the Apple iPhone not being able to have spyware installed UNLESS it is JAILBROKEN. It can’t be done remotely or from a link - because of the “sandboxing” and design of the iOS and also because you can ONLY get the software from the Apple Authorized site.

NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3098245/posts


4 posted on 12/31/2013 2:39:41 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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Unless you jailbreak your iPhone, that’s not going to happen (with the NSA). And if you think someone else has jailbroken it, you can completely erase everything and reload directly from Apple. And, by the way, you shouldn’t jailbreak the phone, since it takes away the protections that Apple has put up to prevent others from doing this to you - and it voids the warranty, too.

Very simply put, that is not going to happen on an iPhone, unless you let someone have it for a whole and they did something to the phone, without you knowing it. And if so, you can solve that problem by completing reloading the iOS (operating system).


5 posted on 12/31/2013 2:41:53 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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So either Apple is not being honest, or their phones cant keep out the NSA, or any other hacker.


7 posted on 12/31/2013 2:42:27 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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If you have an iPhone, and if you have not jailbroken it (which you should not do because you will end up overriding Apple’s protections) - you then know that you can’t download any such (even “cheap”) app from Apple’s App Store - without signing in with the owner’s password (you should have a strong password, too).

AND ... Apple does not have any such spyware, in the Apple App Store, where this can be done. It’s ONLY JAILBROKEN iPHONES that can have that, and you should NEVER jailbreak your iPhone for security reasons!

See this one discussion at the Apple website ...
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5070810

NOW ... mind you ... I’m not talking about the Android phones - which ARE INSECURE or the other phones on the market. You CAN do it with those other phones — but NOT on a NON-JAILBROKEN iPHONE.


8 posted on 12/31/2013 2:43:01 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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These conspiracies stories are sounding more idiotic each day.


9 posted on 12/31/2013 2:46:44 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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There are limits on what management can know about what’s inside their electronic products. A high level tech manager working for the NSA could sneak about anything into the code burned into the chips.


10 posted on 12/31/2013 2:46:44 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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12 posted on 12/31/2013 2:56:12 PM PST by DannyTN (A>)
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National Security Letters make companies wet themselves and say all manner of manglespeak.


14 posted on 12/31/2013 2:58:48 PM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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Technically, Apple’s message was:

“It” “never” “worked” “with” “the” “U.S.” “spy” “agency”.

You have to parse it a tad. Like Bill Clinton parsed “is”.


16 posted on 12/31/2013 3:01:40 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (There Is Still A Very Hot War On Terror, Just Not On The MSM. Rantburg.com)
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Bull$#it. Apple collaborated with the NSA just the same as Microsoft did. Like Microsoft, they were likely unwilling and did so under threat as is indicated by the MS Windows 8 registry key for the NSA back door that starts off as “NSA_***”


18 posted on 12/31/2013 3:07:18 PM PST by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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Nothing to worry about. Nothing at all. /sarcasm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=b0w36GAyZIA


19 posted on 12/31/2013 3:11:22 PM PST by DManA
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Question is: do we believe Apple or Snowden?


21 posted on 12/31/2013 3:45:21 PM PST by tbw2
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We already know that tech companies are being forced to lie under basically treason law. So even if they wanted to admit they had worked with them, they couldn’t.


27 posted on 12/31/2013 4:59:57 PM PST by Monty22002
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Right ... wink, wink, wink.... Stupid Progressives will believe anything .... just keep denying.


28 posted on 12/31/2013 5:26:35 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Some people might call it a confidence game or swindle, others call it ObamaCare!)
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Drudge has this up: How The NSA Hacks Your iPhone, HERE
29 posted on 12/31/2013 6:58:37 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/12/31-5

Ignorance Knows no bounds.


31 posted on 01/01/2014 5:59:13 AM PST by gooblah (gooblah)
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Blackberry BES10.2 with SecuSmart.com is likely secure for both voice and data. SecuSmart's MicroSD alone is $3,000. It is designed and used extensively in Germamy, by their government and by the private sector. However, this is not for the little guy:

The SecuSmart solution is not a one-off single-user security enhancement, it requires back-end services and network re-routing to work. Among other things, it completely bypasses the carrier's voice network for voice calls and sends that traffic via their own NOC using secure VoIP. It also authenticates the entity at the other side of the call, but in order to do that they probably have to be using SecuSmart as well. You can't make a secure voice call to someone at some random payphone somewhere. The whole point is to keep the traffic 100% off the insecure PSTN or wireless carrier voice network.

SecuSmart's President said that it would take the NSA 149 years to break their security. "That should keep the Americans busy", he observed.

33 posted on 01/01/2014 7:27:54 PM PST by Praxeologue
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