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Paul Ryan & the GOP Must Own the Cuts to Veterans Benefits
Red State ^ | 18 Dec 13 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 12/26/2013 1:24:21 PM PST by SkyPilot

Republicans in the Senate want to restore veterans benefits to the Paul Ryan – Patty Murray Budget plan.

Harry Reid is blocking the amendment so Republicans are blaming Harry Reid for cutting veterans benefits.

That is intellectually dishonest of the GOP.

Paul Ryan, a Republican, drafted the plan with Patty Murray, a Democrat.

House Republicans overwhelming approved the plan before it even made it to Harry Reid for a vote. The Republicans could have restored the cuts themselves in the House. Instead, they voted for the plan with the cuts to veterans benefits and went home.

Were Harry Reid to restore the cuts, he’d need to get the House back from Christmas vacation.

Republicans are going to have to own this. Paul Ryan drafted it. John Boehner pushed it through and didn’t give even the 72 hours he promised he’d give for people to look through his legislation. Maybe had John Boehner spent more time reading through the legislation instead of blasting conservatives for opposing cuts to veterans’ benefits and tax increases he could have done something.

Veterans, including veterans disabled due to war injuries, are going to get screwed in the legislation.

This is not Harry Reid’s fault. This is Paul Ryan’s fault, John Boehner’s fault, and the House Republicans’ fault. They rushed the plan through without fixing it. To blame Harry Reid for what they themselves did is just crass partisan politics.

Made worse, it is partisan politics on the backs of veterans — that’s something the Democrats usually do.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: budget; circularfiringsquad; paulryan; pensions; veterans
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If Paul Ryan's Facebook page comments are a reflection of the mood of the country (and I believe they are), then he and the Republican party are in deep, massive trouble.

If the GOP leadership had a clue, it would repeal the cuts to military pensions as its first order of business come January. They better be drafting the legislation and whipping the votes as I type this. And not something that the House passes full of junk that they know the Senate won't even vote on. Both Houses of Congress need to tie the pension cut to repeal to "must pass" legislation.

They also can not be allowed to get away with passing a phoney "technical correction" that only exempt those military retirees who were retired for medical reasons. That is a small slice of the military community, and medically retired does not even cover most combat injured or disabled. They are blowing smoke on that one.

1 posted on 12/26/2013 1:24:21 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

....it’s time we start asking GOP Senators if THEY read the bill?


2 posted on 12/26/2013 1:30:51 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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Repeat after me kids: 'We are gonna give a big fat betrayal to our retired military and disabled vets.....'

3 posted on 12/26/2013 1:33:04 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Paul Ryan and the Repubs who voted with him are an embarrassment.

I am embarrassed for the GOP. And they just don’t quit, they keep looking for ways to make me sorry I’m still technically GOP.


4 posted on 12/26/2013 1:33:21 PM PST by marron
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To: SkyPilot

The RATS just had to get something out of this...and the GOPe gave it to them. Like they always do.

Bastards.


5 posted on 12/26/2013 1:34:53 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Doogle

I would rather kiss a fish than give our military heroes their promised pension Cost of Living raises

6 posted on 12/26/2013 1:36:00 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: EagleUSA; marron; afraidfortherepublic; Jet Jaguar; ExTexasRedhead; xzins

Yes, this is really from Paul Ryan's own Facebook page - he dressed up as Phil Robertson for Halloween.

The only difference is, Phil has integrity, honor, a sense of decency, honesty, truth worthiness, and is a man of his word.

Other than that........

7 posted on 12/26/2013 1:39:51 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; Defender2; ...

Active Duty/Retiree ping.


8 posted on 12/26/2013 1:41:27 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: EagleUSA

I disagree with the editorial on one part: Sen Sessions(R-AL) attempted to insert an amendment that would have removed the cuts to military pensions (which are slated to “save” a whopping $6 Billion....over ten years!) with an elimination of the tax loophole that allows illegal aliens to claim $4.2 Billion per year in ill gotten gains. Reid and Murray blocked the amendment from even coming up for a vote.


9 posted on 12/26/2013 1:48:58 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

We are in a political age that Europe has been going through in recent years with the major parties of the “Left” and “Right” imposing “austerity” measures that involve cuts and tax increases simultaneously.

The measures don’t end national debt or deficit spending, but they are what the elites that fund the big political parties want.

The two big parties are just the same name, a Uniparty all but in name.

If a third party emerged and got enough seats in the House like third parties have emerged in Italy and Greece, the R’s and D’s would form a unified majority against them just like their equivalent parties do in Europe right now because of third party strength in their parliaments.


10 posted on 12/26/2013 1:52:51 PM PST by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: SkyPilot

My rep, Joe “You Lie” Wilson voted for it. Last week I received a fund raising letter from him. It included a post paid return envelope. I wrote him a short note saying since he voted for the veteran cuts, I could no longer afford to donate to his campaign. In fact I could no longer afford to vote for him. I sent the note to him in the post paid envelope.


11 posted on 12/26/2013 1:53:54 PM PST by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: SkyPilot

The worse part of all this (except Ryan finally no longer pretending to be nothing but a Dem toady) is that he called their benefits “generous”!

Oh, unlike the FAT pensions FOR LIFE and FAT healthplans FOR LIFE they give his staffers after only about 12-15 years of service for pushing papers around and ruining our lives.


12 posted on 12/26/2013 1:59:37 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: SkyPilot

Great idea! Let’s make sure our Republican Senators and Reps get defeated and hand over victory to the Dems.

Now when we have a chance to retake the Senate and hold the House, let’s focus on defeating Republicans, instead of Dems.

Let’s make sure to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, great plan!

(/SARC)

GOP surges ahead of Democrats in 2014 generic ballot

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3105516/posts


13 posted on 12/26/2013 1:59:50 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

At this point I’ll quote Hillary: “What difference does it make”.


14 posted on 12/26/2013 2:01:06 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: SkyPilot

Why is this even an issue?
It’s all fake money.
Just have Janet make some more.
The amounts that we’re talking about saving for vets’ pensions are going to affect the “implosion” date by days or weeks, not years.


15 posted on 12/26/2013 2:02:53 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: SkyPilot
It is simply unacceptable to me that now the Republican's have to pass a bill "before we can find out what's in it."

My Dad (RIP) was a U.S. Marine. Uncles on my dad's side of the family (all deceased) served in the Army, Navy and Marines.

My Father in Law served in the U.S. Army. My oldest Son (17) is looking at the Marines.

I find it completely UNACCEPTABLE that this Government and the Republican Party play games with our Veterans benefits.

They served. We OWE them. It's just that damn' simple. SHAME on any Republican who voted to cut Veterans benefits. A Pox on all their houses.

16 posted on 12/26/2013 2:03:23 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Fledermaus

““What difference does it make”.”

If even now you can’t tell the difference between R and D-s you must really not be paying attention — to be charitable.

We can start with Obamacare and go on from there...


17 posted on 12/26/2013 2:03:30 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: SkyPilot

Ryan never served in the military, he’s just another political hack. His stand on cutting vets benefits will prove to be his albatross.


18 posted on 12/26/2013 2:04:53 PM PST by kenmcg
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To: Innovative

Really? GOP cutting veteran’s benefits, attacking the Tea Party as extreme, wailing against Cruz and the “governmennt shutdown”, spending like drunken Dems in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, started TARP, started the GM/Chrysler bailouts that screwed legitimate credit holders and investors, tried to shove amnesty down our throats and are coming back in 2014 to do the same, did NOTHING to defund Obamacare and now only care about it as a tool to power thinking it will implode if only we give them new spedning and cave on the next debt limit “deal”, etc.

To be charitable, you clearly can’t see there is practically NO difference at this point.


19 posted on 12/26/2013 2:09:14 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: Fledermaus

Yes, of course this is all the Republicans’ fault, not the Dems’, naturally... (/sarc)


20 posted on 12/26/2013 2:11:24 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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