Posted on 12/23/2013 10:17:42 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
If it lost a wing how could it land in one piece?
quite the salesman
he has sold a lot of guns in this country
I saw video of an A-10 come back with nearly a whole wing missing, of course its not supersonic
Not nearly a while wing. That was stupid
Military and History channels had aired it before. Find the video at Youtube "F-15 landed without one wing".
Above a certain speed the body of the F-15 generates lift.
An Israeli in the IAF managed to land this F-15 but he had to come in above 150 kts.
The story.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11TGTERa_2k
That’s cool.
The air they want to fly through is the same, and the mission they wish they could perform is the same. Given the risk of doing things differently, I am not surprised that the solution ends up bleeding over the top of different previous designs.
yes it did, and the AF spent millions of dollars performing research to determine how it was done, and how that capability could be moved from the pilot’s brain and hand into software.
That is true enough
F-15 gets a lot of lift off the belly, and with two vertical stabilizers, the pilot found out he could fly nose high and rocked over on his high lift side, streaming fuel all the way home.
Opinion is out on whether the loss of a wing reduced the F-15s radar cross section, or if the rough break actually increased it.
The pilot, after a mid air collision, was able to save the aircraft for his country to repair and use again. He also posed some interesting puzzles for some flight control engineers.
Another fun historical aircraft is the DC-2 and 1/2, assembled from a DC-3 with a wing tip damaged, and an extra DC-2 wingtip that was available. They were able to assemble it, and fly it to evacuate the aircraft from the advancing Japanese. Eventually it was reconfigured to a garden variety DC-3
The Chinese can believe what they wish.If I were in their shoes I wouldn’t ‘t push the issue with Japan though.
You could slap all kinds of RAM on that thing but no way is it going to be stealthy.
The point was; if it has last a wing it is no longer in one piece and can not land as a whole. I should have put a /sarc on it.
Missed that! ;)
I don't think so. What Zivi Nedivi did can't be replicated in the simulator nor video games, are you kidding? Israelis are G-d's chosen, they have the best pilots in the world, Americans and British go to Negev to train with Israeli pilots. Even the Gimli Glider scenario was tried in the simulator with the best pilots, everyone failed, except for the hell a good pilot who landed the Gimli Glider.
Both incidents, lucks were part of it.
I know of several research activities at Wright Pattison AFB where under the rubric of ‘adaptive flight controls’ various engineers were trying to develop a way to make real time aircraft performance measurements, and compare them to the math model of the aircraft, then where differences were detected, back estimate a new model that represented the current state of the aircraft which the pilot could have flown normally, and the model would turn pilot normal control inputs into modified control inputs suitable for the modified or damaged aircraft.
At that time, I was working on AI methods, and we kept bumping into limitations on computer power/speed. There has been significant progress since then.
BS. Whatever AF doing can be at not too extreme abnormal flight condition but not in the extreme scenario encountered by Zivi Nedivi (Israeli F-15 landing with a severed wing) and Bob Pearson landing Gimli glider (powerless 767) with minor damage. Ai with case-based reasoning still can not replace hell of pilots like Zivi Nedivi and Bob Pearson.
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