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U.S. court rejects stay in Utah pro-gay marriage ruling
Reuters ^ | 12/22/13

Posted on 12/22/2013 7:54:49 PM PST by Oliviaforever

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A federal appeals court on Sunday declined to stop officials in Utah from issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples following a judge's ruling last week that overturned the state's ban on gay marriage.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: activistjudges; gaystapo; homosexualagenda; lavendermafia; lawsuit; liberalagenda; marriage; ruling; utah
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1 posted on 12/22/2013 7:54:49 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: Oliviaforever

Send the state troopers to arrest the people trying to give out the licenses! For crying out loud, will any red state AG’s grow some balls.


2 posted on 12/22/2013 7:57:07 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Oliviaforever

Rule by judicial fiat. Who needs a legislature?


3 posted on 12/22/2013 7:57:10 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Oliviaforever

I’m offended! These “judges” need to be suspended indefinitely.


4 posted on 12/22/2013 7:58:29 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Merry Christmas to all my fellow Americans. "Whatever" to everybody else!)
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To: Oliviaforever

No. This can’t continue!


5 posted on 12/22/2013 7:59:57 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Oliviaforever

The Federal State Of America where minorities rule.


6 posted on 12/22/2013 8:01:28 PM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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To: demshateGod

I have to agree. I haven’t seen such a flagrant abuse of judicial authority in over a decade! Why won’t the AG just arrest these dirtbags giving out licenses? What’s Obama gonna do? Send Eric Holder’s boys to arrest him?


7 posted on 12/22/2013 8:01:46 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Oliviaforever

First the Federal courts legislated the wholesale killing of innocent human life. Now they have condoned the vile molestation of young boys by perverted older men. The stench of rotting aborted humans clings to the Federal courts and the Judges are guilty of crimes against humanity.


8 posted on 12/22/2013 8:02:10 PM PST by allendale
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To: allendale; Oliviaforever

9 posted on 12/22/2013 8:08:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: allendale

Judges are the scum of the earth 90% of the time. This is how they intend to force it on EVERYONE!


10 posted on 12/22/2013 8:09:22 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

There’s a supernatural and Satanic stupidity covering almost every pol. We’ve put our faith in them and our system to fix our country (we really have). I think we can see our folly. God can help us.


11 posted on 12/22/2013 8:20:51 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Oliviaforever

After the 5-4 decision on CA marriage the Obama judicial appointees know they can impose same sex marriage on all the states, without resistance in courts.

Justice Kennedy was the key that made this happen.
One justice. He destroyed marriage in this nation.


12 posted on 12/22/2013 8:27:12 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: FlingWingFlyer
"I’m offended! These “judges” need to be suspended Hanged indefinitely immediately!

Fixed it for you...

13 posted on 12/22/2013 8:42:56 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: sickoflibs

It’s a decision by a lower court.

Scalia or Thomas should step in and grant a stay.


14 posted on 12/22/2013 8:48:43 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: Oliviaforever
RE :”It’s a decision by a lower court.
Scalia or Thomas should step in and grant a stay.”

They wont bother.

Like us they already know 5-4 the SCOTUS has decided same sex marriage is a new constitutional right.

While Kennedy is the key vote this was really caused by Obama being elected.

15 posted on 12/22/2013 8:55:44 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Oliviaforever

They shouldn’t have to. The people of Utah should be demanding heads over this. Utah of all places. If it can happen there it can happen anywhere.


16 posted on 12/22/2013 9:05:29 PM PST by Grandma Conservative (Take back the GOP Now, not in two years or be prepared to vote RINO once again.)
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To: Viennacon

They will “grow balls” when the people of Utah get their act together and demand that this crap be stopped. Cracker Barrel their sorry butts.


17 posted on 12/22/2013 9:08:29 PM PST by Grandma Conservative (Take back the GOP Now, not in two years or be prepared to vote RINO once again.)
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To: Oliviaforever

It’s about time to start impeaching thee judges; even Federal ones.


18 posted on 12/22/2013 9:26:26 PM PST by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: Oliviaforever; Lmo56; HiTech RedNeck; theothercheek; Red Steel; David; GreatOne; Sun; Sacajaweau; ..
NEW YORK (Reuters) - A federal appeals court on Sunday declined to stop officials in Utah from issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples following a judge's ruling last week that overturned the state's ban on gay marriage.

Something is amiss with the geography here (as well as the substance of the ruling, of course). The dateline of the Reuters story is New York, which could not possibly be the location where a federal circuit court taking an appeal from Utah District Court would sit. IIRC, this appeal would go to the Tenth Circuit, which covers most of the states in the Rocky Mountain West. The article, for some strange reason, does not specify which circuit court and which judge or judges heard the appeal, nor does it tell us where it occurred. Are they hiding something?

19 posted on 12/22/2013 9:33:33 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

That the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals, covering New York, declined to issue an injunction in Utah which is out of its jurisdiction, and Reuters is pretending that that’s newsworthy?


20 posted on 12/22/2013 9:38:36 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Where’s incest and bestiality?


21 posted on 12/22/2013 9:39:23 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: justiceseeker93; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; campaignPete R-CT

It was indeed the 10th circuit that rejected the stay.

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/c1c7c4e7027943908fbc990790329bcb/US-Gay-Marriage-Utah

Either New York is there because that’s were the story was filed or it was error. Either way it is extremely poor journalism to not name the court in the article. Fail, Reuters.


22 posted on 12/22/2013 9:40:19 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Oliviaforever
When, Claire Wolfe? When?

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

23 posted on 12/22/2013 9:44:46 PM PST by wku man (It's almost deer season, got your DEERGOGGLES on yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jexrnFq2fXY)
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To: Impy

well, something is happening.

will GOP Senate candidates in the heartland talk about how the DEM Senate is undermining marriage in partnership with Obambi?

Or will they talk about legitimate rape?

If Lee Atwater were around, he would pillage any DEM Senate candidate running in any state where 60% of the voters are biblically literate. That includes Lousiana, Arkansas, etc.


24 posted on 12/22/2013 9:58:52 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (h2h? head-to-head)
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To: Oliviaforever

DISOBEY THAT UNCONSTITUTIONAL JUDGE...Remove him or her from their seat and JAIL them!


25 posted on 12/22/2013 11:28:37 PM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Oliviaforever
It seems every moderun novel now has to have two married men in it. Funny that the lesbians started the whole gay-marriage thing, because being women, they wanted to have kids, ergo a committed partner. But now the men have taken over. The New York Times Style section marriage notices on Sunday reads like Gay City. It was always the man's name that appeared first in the little headline. So now what's the code, since most of the couples are men?
26 posted on 12/22/2013 11:30:58 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Impy; justiceseeker93; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; campaignPete R-CT

According to the article that Impy posted, the 10th Circuit didn’t rule on the stay motion on the merits; it merely ruled that the motion was premature, since the state government had requested that the district judge stay his own ruling and the judge hadn’t ruled yet (the judge’s hearing will be today).


27 posted on 12/23/2013 3:27:32 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what ma kes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: Oliviaforever

As it is written “Except the Lord of Hosts had left us a very small remnant we would have become like Sodom and and been made like unto Gomorrah.Isaiah 1:9; Romans 9 :29 .When ANY government in America defies God and acts contrary to the Law dictated by God Himself They act contrary to the ordinance of God and our obligation to obey and sustain them ceases. It is so far from being what God has ordained that in the eyes of heaven it may very well be a crime to not resist and oppose them-—see On the right to Rebel Sermon by Samuel West 1776 preached before the very people who later would appoint him to serve on that state’s ratifying committee,when it debated our US Constitution.I expect No less of Americans under this present darkness,today.


28 posted on 12/23/2013 3:31:58 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Oliviaforever
I'm a little confused. It seems that there are simply some willing homo-oriented local county offices taking it upon themselves to issue these "licenses" after taking their rather vague queues from the court decision - I don't think the court MANDATED that ALL county registrars issue such licenses.

They would have to manually modify the existing forms to conform to the new paradigm (unless the homos new of the upcoming ruling and had new forms printed in advance.) Such and unauthorized revision of the state approved document HAS to be illegal and should be voidable when/if sanity finally prevails.

29 posted on 12/23/2013 7:04:01 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: ICE-FLYER

“DISOBEY THAT UNCONSTITUTIONAL JUDGE...Remove him or her from their seat and JAIL them!”

If Scalia of Thomas refuse to step in and quash this Utah decision, the only option left for this and other judges who issue rulings that we find objectionable is to do exactly what you say.

First impeach, and then jail.

If our members of congress do not vote to impeach, we demand that our local officials refuse to follow the judges orders and have our law enforcement officials toss the judges in their jails.


30 posted on 12/23/2013 8:23:24 AM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: AuH2ORepublican; Impy; Eleutheria5; Lmo56; Sun; NYer; Reaganite Republican; AJFavish; Red Steel; ...
According to the article that Impy posted, the 10th Circuit didn’t rule on the stay motion on the merits; it merely ruled that the motion was premature, since the state government had requested that the district judge stay his own ruling and the judge hadn’t ruled yet (the judge’s hearing will be today).

Yes, it was from an AP story posted today:

On Sunday, a federal appeals court rejected the state's emergency request stay the ruling, saying it couldn't rule on a stay since Shelby hasn't acted on the motion before him.

So yesterday's Reuters story was deliberately deceptive. It had the byline "New York" when it was the Tenth Circuit that refused the stay yesterday, solely on procedural grounds. Total journalistic malpractice by Reuters in failing to mention the basic facts, and leading the reader into false assumptions and conclusions!

If the district court judge refuses to stay his original ruling (which in all likelihood will happen) after today's hearing, the state of Utah will undoubtedly go back to the Tenth Circuit and ask the Tenth Circuit again to stay the district court ruling with the procedural barrier now removed.

In the meantime, these MSM articles make much ado about exulting gays and lesbians thronging to the marriage bureau in Salt Lake City (or whatever the heck its called there). I wonder what the majority of the people in Salt Lake City are thinking as they view this surreal scene unfolding before their eyes.

31 posted on 12/23/2013 9:15:42 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

You can’t believe a damn thing you see in “the news” these days. Just one lie after another.


32 posted on 12/23/2013 9:17:21 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Merry Christmas to all my fellow Americans. "Whatever" to everybody else!)
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To: Oliviaforever; Viennacon; Army Air Corps; Texas Fossil; FlingWingFlyer; demshateGod; Iron Munro; ...

Please see my post # 31.


33 posted on 12/23/2013 9:46:39 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

What would Brigham Young say.


34 posted on 12/23/2013 9:59:21 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The worst thing is where they don’t even lie, they just flutter around in lala land, talking about movie stars and other crap, while serious s@#$ is hitting the fan. I was forced to endure CNN news at the Atlanta Greyhound station when I passed through for months. It was nauseating. Finally, they switched to the Weather Channel.


35 posted on 12/23/2013 10:02:24 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Oliviaforever

I motion ALL judges approved by this communist usurper TOTUS are null and void just like his appointments to the Labor Relations Board!


36 posted on 12/23/2013 10:10:38 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: Oliviaforever
Advocates of gay marriage have won repeated victories in recent years as a growing portion of the American electorate has taken a more favorable view of same-sex relationships.

B.S. Courts have overturned the will of the electorate time after time.

37 posted on 12/23/2013 10:16:28 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Oliviaforever; AuH2ORepublican; Sun; Sacajaweau; ExTexasRedhead; Lmo56; Liz; LottieDah; ...
The Reuters article linked to yesterday (Sunday) at the top of this FR thread has now been replaced by a somewhat improved Reuters article with dateline "Salt Lake City." The same link from yesterday in the original FR post now goes to today's revised article.

In the new article, they state what was omitted from the original, that the appeals court which rejected the stay was in DENVER (which identifies it as the Tenth Circuit, although no specific mention of the Tenth Circuit is made). They continue to fail to mention, though, the critical point that the Tenth Circuit's rejection of the stay was purely on procedural grounds, i.e., that the Tenth Circuit could not address the state of Utah's motion until District Court Judge Shelby rules on the motion for a stay currently before him.

If Shelby were to issue a stay of his own ruling from Friday, it would be a shocking development. But when he issues his expected denial of the stay, there will be no procedural impediment for the Tenth Circuit to overrule him and grant the stay, and hopefully it will.

The revised updated Reuters article also has quotes from Utah Gov. Herbert critiquing Shelby's decision.

38 posted on 12/23/2013 12:12:44 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Oliviaforever

That didn’t take long.

Phil Roberts has already been redeemed.


39 posted on 12/23/2013 12:58:25 PM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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To: Grandma Conservative; justiceseeker93; Jeff Head
Thank you for pinging me to this, JusticeSeeker93. Much appreciated.

Some comments:

16 posted on 12/22/2013 11:05:29 PM by Grandma Conservative: “The people of Utah should be demanding heads over this. Utah of all places. If it can happen there it can happen anywhere.”

You are absolutely right on this. Utah is one of the reddest of the red states, due in large measure to the Mormons, and if the federal courts can impose their will on an angrily protesting majority of Mormons in Utah, they can and will get away with it anywhere.

However, it looks like this is being done with more than a little local liberal support. If I understand correctly, the mayor of Salt Lake City was one of the people who presided at these newly authorized “homosexual marriages?” If that's true, it's clear this isn't just a few kooks but some people with **MAJOR** influence right in the heart of LDS territory.

Jeff Head, as one of our key local Mormon Freepers, can you help educate us non-Mormons on how this could possibly be happening in a part of the world which most of us conservatives thought was safe territory for conservative pro-family views? What can you tell us about this mayor, and what can you tell us about church and secular plans to take back Utah from this sort of wickedness? This must be sending shock waves through your Mormon world.

For better or for worse, this is going to have to be a Mormon battle. There aren't enough evangelical Protestants and traditional Roman Catholics in Utah to make a meaningful political difference, so in this case I don't see a realistic role for us outsiders beyond sitting on the sidelines and hoping that conservative Mormons win the fight against homosexual marriage in their state.

19 posted on 12/22/2013 11:33:33 PM by justiceseeker93: “The dateline of the Reuters story is New York, which could not possibly be the location where a federal circuit court taking an appeal from Utah District Court would sit.”

I agree with you that the article leads to confusion. However, I think it is probably unintentional.

The standards for selecting datelines are no longer as firm and fixed as they once were, but the older standard was that the dateline was to be the place where the reporter wrote the story, not necessarily where the story took place. The argument was that a reporter should not use a dateline of a city where he or at least an assistant was not physically present, because it could cause people to wrongly think the reporter had “boots on the ground” when the reporter was not there.

In the modern age of telecommunications and internet, stories are more and more often reported by a staff writer making phone calls and sending emails from someplace nowhere near where the story took place. I don't know the current style of Reuters on datelines, but one of my former editors had previously been a Reuters bureau chief, and datelining a Utah story from where the reporter wrote the story — in this case probably New York City — would be consistent with Reuters practice back when he was working for Reuters.

Hope this helps!

(And Jeff, I'd **REALLY** like to hear from you on this. Most of us in the Freeper world know very little about the internal dynamics of the LDS, and I, for one, value your internal knowledge of these issues.)

40 posted on 12/23/2013 9:25:25 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: justiceseeker93

Reuters has that reputation—earned by their own record.No matter —the Judges who now favor same sex fraud— and polygamy Hate American Law and have rejected the fundamental law Yet they hold up an empty glass and proclaim This is the Law Honor it.


41 posted on 12/24/2013 5:05:10 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Grandma Conservative
Utah of all places. If it can happen there it can happen anywhere.

I was thinking along the same lines. The majority of the people of conservative Utah who have to witness this surreal spectacle - exultant gay and lesbian couples, in the local government buildings, getting their marriage papers and mugging for the Reuters and AP cameras - have to be teed off.

42 posted on 12/24/2013 11:10:58 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: darrellmaurina; All
The standards for selecting datelines are no longer as firm and fixed as they once were, but the older standard was that the dateline was to be the place where the reporter wrote the story, not necessarily where the story took place. The argument was that a reporter should not use a dateline of a city where he or at least an assistant was not physically present, because it could cause people to wrongly think the reporter had “boots on the ground” when the reporter was not there.

OK, so the reporters of the original Reuters article may have written their story from New York and followed the journalistic standard for datelines. But that in itself is a problem, because not only are New York and Salt Lake City 2,000 miles apart geographically, they are widely different culturally, especially with respect to the subject at hand. I would go so far as to suggest that Reuters' New York writers were chosen to do the initial story because it would be much more gay marriage friendly. So there were no "boots on the ground" for the original Reuters story, which is a major reason why it turned out as biased, inaccurate, and deceptive as it did.

43 posted on 12/24/2013 12:20:16 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
You may be right, but it's important to remember that Reuters, unlike the Associated Press, is predominantly a foreign wire service and they've cut back on their non-European coverage much like American media have cut back on foreign bureaus.

I would be very surprised if Reuters has a correspondent in or anywhere near Salt Lake City. Internationally speaking, Utah isn't that important.

Reuters probably does have someone on the West Coast, however, but that likely would have generated a Los Angeles or some other California dateline.

This New York dateline on a Utah story may end up remaining a mystery that never gets answered because internal story assignment decisions generally don't get discussed because they're usually not interesting to readers.

But who knows? Free Republic being what it is, it wouldn't surprise me if some FOX News or Washington Times reporter shows this thread to a friend at Reuters and says, “Look at the debate you generated!”

44 posted on 12/24/2013 2:13:35 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina
Internationally speaking, Utah isn't that important.

That's the leftist mind set in a nutshell. It's just "flyover country," at least until some off-the-wall federal judge declares that a the state's ban on homosexual marriage is unconstitutional, which sends Reuters and most of their MSM colleagues into ecstasy, enough so that they feel they have to write a story from 2,000 miles away in New York.

45 posted on 12/24/2013 3:23:46 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: StonyBurk; All
No matter —the Judges who now favor same sex fraud— and polygamy...

Ironic that you mention polygamy, since Utah historically was the only state which had to agree to outlaw polygamy in order to be admitted to the Union.

46 posted on 12/24/2013 5:33:21 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Oliviaforever; Viennacon; darrellmaurina; Army Air Corps; Grandma Conservative; ExTexasRedhead; ...
Update:

The Utah gay marriage story is now the lead on usatoday.com., accompanied by a large photo of a pro gay "marriage" demonstration alleged to have 1,500 participants.

This kind of thing in Salt Lake City is almost as brazen the neo-Nazi march in Skokie, IL about 20 years ago, in terms of in-your-face provocation!

47 posted on 12/24/2013 6:17:13 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

I imagine that Homosexual activists from around the country are headed there.


48 posted on 12/24/2013 6:19:29 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: justiceseeker93; NKP_Vet; Theodore R.; DJ MacWoW; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; ...
RE :”This kind of thing in Salt Lake City is almost as brazen the neo-Nazi march in Skokie, IL about 20 years ago, in terms of in-your-face provocation! “

Don't forget that a single Obama appointed justice forced gay marriage on Utah.

You wont hear the MSM or the GOP pointing this out.

I saw a mini debate on MSNBC today on this where the moderator said to the ‘Republican’ :
Well what will the GOP do now that conservative Utah has approved same-sex marriage?” and the Republican tried to change the subject rather than point out what really happened, a single Obama judge forced it on state.

Looks like the GOP has chosen the gay side.

49 posted on 12/24/2013 6:31:06 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: justiceseeker93

My lesbian cousin made up special “Christmas” cards this year. They all have a picture of her and her “wife” getting married in Minnesota.


50 posted on 12/24/2013 6:31:09 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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