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To: KC_Lion; Jeff Head

I was always worried we weren’t building up the support for the big ships and combat. Do we have the cargo ship tonnage needed to move massive amounts of equipment and supplies if a war broke out?


9 posted on 12/13/2013 12:16:23 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: neverdem; narses; SunkenCiv; cogitator; Nachum; GeronL

No.

Worse, we don’t ven have the industrial ability to build the industrial capacity to BEGIN building the shipyards and armories and factories to BUILD that military.

In WWII, it took a buildup starting (slowly!) in 1938-39-40-41 to BEGIN the growth using Depression-era empty factories, steel mills, and mines and foundries! - to have airplanes and rifles and cannons and ships delivered in 1943 and 1944 and 1945.


17 posted on 12/13/2013 12:26:49 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: GeronL
9 I was always worried we weren’t building up the support for the big ships and combat. Do we have the cargo ship tonnage needed to move massive amounts of equipment and supplies if a war broke out?

I recall during POTUS #40 RWR's watch that he was trying to get us to a 600 ship Navy. Today we are < 300. Even if we had a merchant marine force to transport men/supplies, it would have to be defended - just think of the U-boat slaughter of the convoys in the North Atlantic during 1940-1943.

I was just thinking of our Army airborne divisions. With the world being flooded with MANPADS today, It seems almost suicidal to do a combat drop. I think the last 1 was in Aghanistan, not long after 9/11, an airfield assault somewhere between 2001-02.

42 posted on 12/13/2013 1:39:34 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: GeronL
We have massive amounts of equipment on ships already, sitting in strategic locations around the world. While it sits there the crew performs rotating maintenance on the gear.

As far as replacing carriers goes, the problem is sustained response. Yes, we can launch missile strikes from surface combatants, submarines and long range bombers, but those missiles are very expensive for the amount of explosive you are delivering. The result is that a large missile strike at the beginning of a conflict severely depletes our stores. Tough solution.

44 posted on 12/13/2013 1:46:41 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: GeronL
Yes.

Take a look:

US Military Sea Lift Command Vessels

These are not officially a part of the US Navy anymore. They are not "USS" vessels, instead, they are "USNS" vessels. Usuallu crewed mostly by Merchant Marines with small US NAvy detachments for communications and operations.

We have a lot of really big ships to move mountains of supplies and have in fact pre-positioned loats of it at places like Diego Garcia, Guam, Saipan, etc.

54 posted on 12/13/2013 4:17:17 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: GeronL
Do we have the cargo ship tonnage needed to move massive amounts of equipment and supplies if a war broke out?

I know, we'll rent them from China!

Oh, wait... :)

68 posted on 12/14/2013 9:29:02 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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