These are close support weapons...devastating.
Phalanx CIWS Block 1B
Posted on 12/13/2013 2:57:59 AM PST by markomalley
I dont’ think it’s that simple….and I don’t think China would be a major factor if we would but take care of our own anti business rules, regs and taxes. China has major internal problems and very few of their people have any liberty or opportunity. I just don’t have your sino phobia…..
Dems were not the only ones, every US corporation was willing to sell the rope for the Chinese to hang the US with. You know how many ivy league business and legal grads were willing to help China as lobbyists in US Congress for a lucrative six figure salary. We may argue who has a better mindset in free market capitalism - Asians vs Americans. I do know one thing, when US corporations arrive in China, no former Chinese regulator or Chinese ivy league grad flocking to them to help the US compete against China.
No you have China-filia. Same as China-phobia, but the exact opposite.
America needs to start looking out for America.
Now. Bring back American jobs, and start building up our own nation once again.
You just arne’t very smart. Sorry, you’re not.
Economies are not zero sum games, and yet, because you are a situational liberal, your teeny tiny brain cannot fathom it.
And because you are a China phobe, you can’t comprehend that not everybody else on the planet is.
"American G.I. pray "chicken" pretty good ha ha ha!
Reminds of Heathkit from back in the day. They may be getting back into the educational home assembly kits again shortly.
“Home-made” electronic kits are great. Some of these home builders can get pretty advanced with all the tools and equiotment now available. Just stick/solder them together.
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Let us say I work in a business where we need Chinese compliance on quality and they are not doing it. It is like a roach motel in the wild west. I dont care how big a place is, quality is more important to me as a swiss watch model should be the type of standard to strive for, not just sheer numbers for greedy bean counters. If we let China mess with our good quality suppliers in Japan, TAIWAN, or say even Israel and we are too chicken about it, then we might as well shut down business... which is what the communists want since they want to take it all over.
i have no disagreement with this particular point….and to clarify, a point that I think should be obvious but apparently is not…..while I believe in free trade in general, there are certainly specific trade deals that I would not be in favor of.
Assuming you are correct about your business….and I have no reason to doubt you, I have no qualms with your specific opinion in this context.
My ship did this with a Russian vessel back in the 1970’s, very common.
Obammie is a Marxist/Stalinist commie with a fetish for muslim, in other words, he hates freedom and free peoples everywhere.
The following is not an attempt at a put down but a genuine query.
How many of the ‘educated, trained, and capable’ representatives of the Great Han people you dealt with were either full time or part time stringers for one of a number of PRC military or civil intelligence agencies diligently reporting every conversation, contact and bit of information on anything vaguely useful they came across? How many thousand reports flow into the PRC every year detailing the societal rot and dysfunction that is becoming epidemic in our country? How does one think both the people you deal with and their associates back home consider the crumbling of the family unit and the rise of bastardy rates to near 50% of all live births. How do they view the wholesale abandonment of a religiously based moral and ethical code (whether it is their religion or not) by virtually the entire political class and most of the upper middle class? Seriously, don't you grasp that many of these bright Chinese are making mental note of what parts of the US and its infrastructure they look forward to owning or directing and what Americans they can employ in the future to be their compradore class?
How many of the ‘educated, trained, and capable’ representatives of the Great Han people you dealt with were either full time or part time stringers for one of a number of PRC military or civil intelligence agencies diligently reporting every conversation, contact and bit of information on anything vaguely useful they came across? How many thousand reports flow into the PRC every year detailing the societal rot and dysfunction that is becoming epidemic in our country? How does one think both the people you deal with and their associates back home consider the crumbling of the family unit and the rise of bastardy rates to near 50% of all live births. How do they view the wholesale abandonment of a religiously based moral and ethical code (whether it is their religion or not) by virtually the entire political class and most of the upper middle class? Seriously, don't you grasp that many of these bright Chinese are making mental note of what parts of the US and its infrastructure they look forward to owning or directing and what Americans they can employ in the future to be their compradore class?
I would be curious about your perspective on these two divergent views of the Great Hans visiting the US.
When I deal with 250 Chinese, who knows how many are spies, but it would be nearly impossible to get all of them to sing the same tune, not to mention the years worth of business dealings by fellow Americans living in China working with them on site.
I know very well what they are up to. I’ve been in the spy business myself and have worked very closely with foreign assessments. We cannot avoid dealing with China in this market as aviation is international. There is no way any American aviation company can be isolationist in nature and still be welcome into those nations.
But here is the rub about your questions: You assume we don’t need to compete but protect. Maybe that’s not what you intended to say but that’s the tone and you’re not alone in that tone. If we can’t beat the likes of China then we deserve to lose.
No my thing isn't protectionism, although some industries necessary for national defense (precursor chemicals, smelter operations for two) would have to be protected industries. My point is the Chinese are like the Muslims, alien, hostile, and utterly power oriented. The Muslims can't produce a real military challenge because of their dysfunctional culture and tribal mentality so they mount ‘asymmetric actions’ such as 9-11. China is akin to militarist japan just before the mask was removed over the China incident. They are determined to pay the white man back for the insults administered during the ‘unequal treaty period’ and they dream of a vast Chinese empire stretching across the pacific and south to Australia. The PRC is a huge potential future direct menace to this country. Weakness and military unpreparedness will only incite these people to attempt what they dream of doing.
“The PRC is a huge potential future direct menace to this country”
Maybe, and I say that because the old guard certainly is but they are aging. The younger crowd, let’s say under 45 years old, are not so militant or communist. They love their new found wealth. (There are over 300 million of them living middle class or better.) They love technology and advancements. When asked privately if they want war with anyone or seek to overthrow any nation they laugh. Usually the response is, “Too much work! We’re doing fine as it is and better all the time.” I experienced very, very happy people. Giddy, even. War is the farthest thing from their minds.
Maybe there are plenty more in China that are warriors at heart and seek war, but I can say without question that isn’t their technological population at all.
BTW, the Chinese see themselves as Chinese but also as white. The racial purity they once held sacred is also mostly a thing of the past. They encourage their children to marry foreigners, especially marry Americans. We had several marriages in our company.
BTW, the Chinese see themselves as Chinese but also as white. The racial purity they once held sacred is also mostly a thing of the past. They encourage their children to marry foreigners, especially marry Americans. We had several marriages in our company.
That is the most interesting thing. If the Chinese see themselves as one of several big powerful states rather than being the ‘center of the universe’ whose rightful position is one of lording it over the ‘outer barbarians’ then that is a big and positive step.
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