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South African Government Admits Mistake Over fake Mandela Signer
Sky News ^ | 12/12/2013

Posted on 12/12/2013 8:31:05 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

People booing at a funeral. Obama on stage at a solemn event acting like an 8 year old. Freddy the fake signer. A rogues gallery of attendees. The only thing missing was Joe Biden twerking with Hillary Clinton.


21 posted on 12/12/2013 9:04:39 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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RE: The only thing missing was Joe Biden twerking with Hillary Clinton.

Makes me wonder... What would Nelson Mandela be saying if he were aware of this?


22 posted on 12/12/2013 9:08:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Paine in the Neck
I know he was signing gibberish at the memorial service. I was wondering if he ever has shown at another time that he could sign legitimately.

I guess we won't know unless some authoritative organization in that country steps forward and indicates whether or not he is certified. ASL interpreters in this country, at least the ones you see at most public performances, are certified by the Registry of Interpreters for the Deaf (www.rid.org). Don't know about South Africa.

23 posted on 12/12/2013 9:09:05 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: albie
Everything in Mandela's life and in his memorial is a monumental fake.

MANDELA'S MEMORIAL SERVICE. NULLIFYING THE DIFFERENCES FOR ANY PRICE.

By CCDn Cristians Concepts Daily December 12, 2013

http://www.christianconceptsdaily.com/mandelas-memorial-service-nullifying-the-differences-for-any-price/

Thus former President of the United States, George W. Bush and the American law-makers sat under the same roof with the uber-dictator, Robert Mugabe, Bolshevik hegemon, Raoul Castro and the second most important official from the Chinese Communists, the apparatchik, “Vice-President” Li.

It has been said that the African National Congress (AFC) and the South African Communist Party are a two-heads creature. They shared their goals, strategies and members. One of the top members, was their leader Nelson Mandela. The speakers confirmed it during the Memorial Service to commemorate the former President of South Africa.

Nevertheless, some in the West are still ignoring this fact. Tens of thousands of mourners, mostly members and sympathizers of the African National Congress, and numerous global dignitaries paid their last respects to the former president in the Pretoria stadium on Tuesday, 10th of December. Numerous speakers asserted during the ceremony, that Mandela was “a founding father of the democratic state of the South Africa”.

Was it really a celebration of the Western democracy? Can Mandela be a symbol or an icon of it?

Some of the speakers, including his former “brother-in-arms”, in their remarks called him “a Comrade” and “a great leader”. A careful observer could tell that these words seemed to be some special code known to the locals. Whenever the ANC deputy president and joint master of ceremonies, Cyril Rhamaposa uttered these words some parts of the crowd would become energized. They would shout and sing with their hand stretched upward and clenched their fist, a known symbol of the Communists.

Whether or not they were aware, the leaders of the Western democracies gathered in Pretoria’s stadium were inadvertently taking part in the celebration of “the people’s democracy” and not the democracy. What is the difference? The people’s democracy was used by the Kremlin together with the Communist parties around the globe, to pursue their unlimited goals such as conquering the world.

During the Bolshevik rule, the Communist Party around the globe led by the Kremlin, committed indescribable crimes in the name of the very same “people’s democracy”. Some examples of their crimes include: murder of the millions of Ukrainians, imposing on them an artificial hunger, support of the war crime of murdering several thousands of war prisoners, Polish officers in Katyn, co-responsibility for the Holocaust together with Nazi Germany, killing of hundreds of millions of innocent people in China and other Asian countries. Further more, the murder of hundreds of thousands of people in Africa. The Kremlin committed this latter crime with a the local instrument, which was the African National Congress.

“A people’s democracy”, a Communist tautology, is used as a cover by the Communist rulers, which are neither “people’s” but a self-imposed regime nor “democratic” but a tyrannical power.

The documents and witnesses over the years confirmed that the Communist Nelson Mandela, found himself deprived of the ANC’s major sponsor, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and changed his tactics.

Did he himself really change? It is being said that he had resigned from violence. He did. Violent methods were useless for him since his Communist comrades, the policy makers from the ANC, could finally get their hands on the steering wheel. Exaggeration? Not at all.

Mandela appointed in his first government, the chief of the African National Congress Comrade, Alfted Nzo, as the first foreign minister. As the documents from the Soviet Communist Party Archives have proven. In 1979, the same Alfred Nzo had secretly ordered the weapons and forged passports from the Communist Party of the Soviet Union to run the terror campaign against the democratic governments in Africa including South Africa.

Instead of standing trial, Nzo stood on the red carpet, before the cameras being praised as a peacemaker. Was it possible that Mandela appointed Nzo onto the central nerve system of the young state by accident?

What if he wanted to push South Africa closer to the Russian orbit and to keep it beyond the reach of the United States and its allies. In fact, Gorbachev’s plan appeared to have such a goal – as former KGB strategists Anatoliy Golitsyn explained in his letter to the CIA which was published in “Perestroika Deception”:

to facilitate a shift of the emerging regime in South Africa from the Western sphere of influence, towards close economic and political cooperation and alliance with the CIS. USING for this purpose, old friendships with leaders of the African National Congress and the South African Communist Party with which it is effectively merged.

Mandela portrayed the formation of his government, which would consist of the former Comrades from the African National Congress, as a victory of the democracy in South Africa. The West was complacent and fell in the trap of hyper-optimism and self-contentment.

So what should Mandela have done to prove that he had changed? He should have opened the African National Congress archives and convinced his Comrades to talk about the secret cooperation with the Empire of Evil. He did nothing. Mandela duped the world and with skillful manipulation covered his past behind the thin curtain.

Even today some respected senior political figures, aspiring to the highest offices, historians themselves, appear to be victims of such manipulation by joining the chorus of the ignoramuses and cynics, who are praising the Communist terrorist. A product of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the international communist movement.

It is even more amazing that some leaders of the Western world cannot understand it, given the wealth of information in the open sources.

Maybe some of them, after hours of sitting in the stadium, became surprised or maybe even shocked about what they had heard and seen. Democrats and tyrants were sitting together in the source of their power would not be important. The television footage around the globe was continually showing the representatives of the states, that were still committing crimes against humanity and those who are supposed to defend the innocent victims of the criminal regimes.

Thus former President of the United States, George W. Bush and the American law-makers sat under the same roof with the uber-dictator, Robert Mugabe, Bolshevik hegemon, Raoul Castro and the second most important official from the Chinese Communists, the apparatchik, “Vice-President” Li Yuangchao.

Hundreds of thousands true fighters for freedom and dignity are being tortured and killed in the prisons, labor camps and secret places of detention around Zimbabwe, China and Cuba.

Mandela’s record of defense of the Chinese, Cuban or other freedom fighters is not impressive. It is impossible to find any statement in which he would criticize for instance: Beijing, Phenian, Teheran, PLO, Hamas, Hezbollah, Kremlin, or Havana regimes. None.

Is it possible that Mandela’s indifference or lack of activity on behalf of true freedom fighters was just ideological?

It is more than clear today that Nelson Mandela was not just one of the top leaders of the African National Congress but he was Comrade Li Yuanchao, “vice-president”, top apparatchik in the Chinese Communist Party was teaching Western leaders about the greatness of Mandela at the Memorial also a top member of the South African Communist Party.

A fact that he denied during his trial. He even repeated this statement in his autobiography. On page 239 he wrote: “I was not a communist nor a member of the party”. On the day of Mandela’s Memorial Service in the Pretoria Stadium, the former deputy general secretary of the South African Communist Party, Solly Mapaila stated in an interview with the Business Day, that Mandela, was a member of the party but it was denied at the time for “political reasons”.

“At his arrest in 1962, Nelson Mandela was not only a member of the then underground South African Communist Party, but was also a member of our party’s central committee. To us, South African communists, Cde [Comrade – note by TP] Mandela shall forever symbolize the fundamental contribution of the SACP in our liberation struggle” – the party said in a statement reacting to Mandela’s death.

“The contribution of the communists in the struggle to achieve the South African freedom has very few parallels in the history of our country. After his release from prison in 1990 Cde Madiba [Nelson Mandela – note by TP] became a great and close friend of communists till his last days.”

Why did Mandela not admit that he was a member of the central committee of the South African Communist Party? Time has changed. At that the time he was released from prison, the Soviet Union was crumbling, and there was “too much negativity around the Soviet system” – Mapaila said.

The Memorial Service became a good lesson of history for a diligent observer.

The crowd in the stadium gathered to remember their former President, cheered enthusiastically to acknowledge the African Dictator In Chief, Robert Mugabe. Even him could not believe it.

24 posted on 12/12/2013 9:11:07 AM PST by Dqban22
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25 posted on 12/12/2013 9:12:02 AM PST by red-dawg
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To: joethedrummer

I read $85.00. I believe we have an opportunity to ridicule the Kenyan Kid and “Soweto BOB”.


26 posted on 12/12/2013 9:19:12 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: gitmo

I think I saw at least 70,000 wack-jobs at that funeral. He was just one of many.


27 posted on 12/12/2013 9:20:01 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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28 posted on 12/12/2013 9:22:22 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: smokingfrog

There was one whack job who showed up an hour late. He was probably the worst.


29 posted on 12/12/2013 9:26:01 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, it's useless. huh?)
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30 posted on 12/12/2013 9:28:00 AM PST by dfwgator
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31 posted on 12/12/2013 9:36:43 AM PST by red-dawg
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To: SeekAndFind

Barack Obama is on the stage, and they’re worried about the signer. LMAO

Maybe Obama is habitually nervous, and forgot how to be president years at a time, say nearly five of them...


32 posted on 12/12/2013 9:36:49 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Zero = zero)
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To: DoughtyOne

Ping Mandela = Communist


33 posted on 12/12/2013 9:56:01 AM PST by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: TNoldman

...and terrorist.

Makes you wonder what would be a deal-breaker for those who pushed for this guy to be president in South Africa.


34 posted on 12/12/2013 10:00:09 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Zero = zero)
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To: blueunicorn6

Chocolate milk all over my Android phone.


35 posted on 12/12/2013 10:05:39 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: SeekAndFind
Yeah, we're all surprised to find out that someones completely unqualified nephew got a high paying do-nothing job in an utterly corrupt African government.

The funny thing is that all the main stream media articles are printing this excuse deadpan. They've been reporting Jay Carney pressers for so long they they can print anything with a straight face.

36 posted on 12/12/2013 10:13:29 AM PST by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: SeekAndFind

Anybody wondering what I hell the Secret Service is doing these days? How can you have an imposter and a clinically treated schitzo 3 feet from the President of the United States during his speech? Putting him In that kind of danger is just amateur and stupid. Maybe they figured there was no Tea Party over there so why worry? Somebody needs to have their head roll for that one!


37 posted on 12/12/2013 10:13:31 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (...and to the Republic for which it stood.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The 34-year-old, who was pictured signing next to the likes of US President Barack Obama, claimed he suddenly lost concentration and started hearing voices and hallucinating.

Possibly the most accurate interpretation yet of obama's words.

38 posted on 12/12/2013 10:22:53 AM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is among the least of South Africa’s worries.


40 posted on 12/12/2013 1:15:49 PM PST by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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