Posted on 12/06/2013 10:38:02 AM PST by forty_years
Maybe I’m late to the party here, but I no longer believe we can restore the republic by WINNING elections either.
If the squish GOP majority keeps insisting on “electability” over character, and trying to drive real conservatives out of the party... What’s the point? The low information voters, the urine stream media (and you, apparently) don’t want to give constitutional liberty a chance right now. We may very well have to “fight with the army we have”. I certainly hope it doesn’t come to that, but when will we be stronger?
American government is designed to be resilient. We didn’t get here overnight. We’re at a major inflection point and if we can play it correctly, we can hold majorities in both Houses for a generation and turn back the clock. Controlling Congress is the most important thing. It means real control of government.
The difference between a RINO and a Democrat is enormous. We need to stop pretending that everything is catastrophic. We’re winning on many, many fronts. It will take a lot of compromise, thoughtfulness and a long vision. Ted Cruz said if they give you half a loaf, take it and go back for the other half. We’re moving our agenda forward against the almost inconceivable might of the MSM, US/state/local government apparatus which includes the K-college school system, and every crony capitalist and welfare beneficiary in America, plus many countries that want that dough and want to see America fail.
I think it is an amazing paen to our Founders that we’re holding our own and making serious inroads. The meme is ours, we need to control the battlespace and shape it to our benefit. That’s being handed to us on a golden platter by the Democrats. Don’t sweat the small stuff, we need to win the big fights and that’s going to take time.
Keep in mind that Boehner sent a poison pill to the Democrat-controlled Senate. Look:
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr3626#overview
On a voice vote the Dems passed this bill. They’re running scared, totally scared.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/10/us-usa-congress-guns-idUSBRE9B900Q20131210
Now the new enemy will be the gun companies themselves wanting a crony capitalist intervention to stop people from printing their own guns. Watch for the NRA to give cover to those restrictions or a permit/licensing system.
That will be the real fight.
And how is that even legal? We are supposed to have a system of checks and balances in this country. The leftist Democrat Party has managed to circumvent (ignore) our constitution for the past five years. I'd say that equates to treason and grounds for impeachment for them all....since each and every one of them vowed to "uphold the US Constitution"....not to crap on it or ignore it.
I hope they kissed their wives and children good by when they come for mine.Never give up and always stay on the offensive.
Okay. The Senate passed the bill & the poser robo-signed it... When does our big victory party begin?
It’s a little victory party that keeps the news cycle on Democrat failure. The bill harms no gun owner. Why the pouting over nothing?
Think of the headlines and soccer mom reactions. We need to win and win big thereby controlling Congress for the next generation (or two). That’s the goal.
I guess I’ve failed to detect the “pouting over nothing”. Maybe I’m guilty of it...
Our government has now declared one more thing you cannot do. One more liberty you may not exercise under threat of force. I don’t want an undetectable firearm.
What I do want is the liberty that God created me with, that the Founders fought for, that many good men have died to preserve... A piece of this liberty has been carved away today by fools not worthy to shine those men’s shoes, and you call it a victory?
Because it keeps the media focused on Obuffooncare. Hah!
So that more of these weak, phony, bought-and-paid-for PRETEND conservatives can MAYBE get elected?
Compromise with evil is evil.
I understand your frustration and feel the same way. I’ve found, though, that the going is tough, but we can win. It takes focus and time, but also the admission that the entire country doesn’t agree with us. We’re right, so what do we do?
Listen to this and tell me what you think:
http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2013/07/morris_fiorina.html
I think we need to be wise, compromise in our direction, and go back to the well over and over again. If we can take Congress and hold it for a generation (just like the Democrats did), then we can turn it around.
I appreciate the link. The man has some very interesting insights into the psyche of the electorate. Problem is; I’m an absolutist. For instance, I don’t believe that “term limits” are in the best interest of the Republic. I think Constitutional limits on governmental power are more effective.
What would be the point in buying a Senator if he did not have the power to help further your interests through legislation?
Or to steal words from Heinlein: When is it moral for a group of people to do something that would not be moral for an individual member of that group to do? I wouldn’t kill an unborn child, so why would I ever support a politician, no matter how many other issues we might agree on, who is willing to go along with the idea to get more votes?
If I won’t allow my neighbor, who Jesus commands me to love, to decide for me what I can or cannot own; what I can or cannot say; what God I should worship, or what liberties I may enjoy, then why on earth should I accept & support those dictates from people who make their living at my expense?
I respect your point of view FRiend, but I can’t wrap my head around the concept of yielding the few liberties we now enjoy for the promises of public servants who do not serve the public, that later they will do the right thing.
I suspect that I’m too far gone for that.
VA will be leading the way on gun control. People there just voted for it again last month.
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