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URGENT: Gun Control Coming to the Senate Floor on Monday
Gun Owners of America ^ | Friday, 06 December 2013 | Gun Owners

Posted on 12/06/2013 10:38:02 AM PST by forty_years

CALL YOUR SENATORS, EMAIL THEM DIRECTLY, AND/OR USE A TOOL THAT AUTOMATICALLY FINDS YOUR SENATORS AND EMAILS THEM.

“[Democrats] just spent all year trying to effectively destroy the gun lobby, so why in heaven's name [should] we give them this Christmas present?" -- GOA’s Michael Hammond on the plastic gun ban (ABC News, Dec. 3, 2013)

The U.S. House of Representatives did a very dangerous thing Tuesday -- and, apparently, it did so with the consent of one gun organization.

By voice vote, the House slammed through a ten-year re-authorization of the poorly drafted 1988 plastic gun ban.

Lest anyone be confused about how the anti-gun Left views this, USA Today crowed, on the front page of Wednesday's newspaper that the “HOUSE SAYS YES TO ONE GUN BILL -- Plastic gun ban only firearm legislation to pass since November.”

Taken alone, this gives the Obama administration, if it chooses, another three years to use the 1988 law to ban large numbers of guns.

But there is an even bigger danger: Chuck Schumer held a press conference the same day to indicate that he will use the House-passed bill as a vehicle to pass even more gun control. We don't expect to know Schumer's bill number or language before he actually offers it, but it will purport to deal with guns from 3-D printers, while actually being much broader.

So here's what we are doing: We are asking our friends in the Senate to put a “hold” on any effort by Schumer to amend the House bill.

The Senate will only be in session four or five days next week before the House goes out for the year, and Schumer may not be able to get time on the Senate floor without “unanimous consent” from all senators.

So, by doing this, we would force Schumer to give up on his vehicle for banning printer-guns if he wanted any reauthorization of the 1988 bill. If Schumer remains adamant, there will be no re-authorization at all. Even if he capitulates, we'll see what happens.

It's not a perfect outcome. But we think it's an outcome we can probably achieve.

ACTION: Click here to Contact your Senators. Ask them to oppose any effort by Senator Chuck Schumer to add gun control to the H.R. 3626, the plastic gun ban reauthorization which passed in the House.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 357chuckie; banglist; guncontrol; gungrab; schumer; secondamendment
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1 posted on 12/06/2013 10:38:02 AM PST by forty_years
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To: forty_years

Ignorant boneheads in the house. Opening the gate for their fellow boneheads in the senate.

The government we deserve?

KYPD


2 posted on 12/06/2013 10:40:43 AM PST by petro45acp (It's a fabian thing.....how do you boil a frog? How's that water feelin right about now?)
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To: forty_years

BTTT


3 posted on 12/06/2013 10:42:40 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: forty_years

Don’t do anything. Let the GOP sit on the sidelines and let the Dems pass these bills with zero GOP support. It’s DOA in the House.


4 posted on 12/06/2013 10:43:50 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: petro45acp

Try using https://www.popvox.com/. It seems to work pretty well for getting the messages to your congress critter. Pretty darn current too on pending legislation. Don’t worry, the nsa already has most of our numbers anyway.


5 posted on 12/06/2013 10:44:12 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: forty_years

What OTHER things that don’t exist, can the government ban? LOL. By the way, the 2nd Amendment COVERS guns made of ANY material - I don’t see anything in it to the contrary!


6 posted on 12/06/2013 10:46:24 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: 1010RD

It already passed the house. Don’t be surprised when it gets 60 wotes for cloture in the Senate, then passes with zero Republican votes.


7 posted on 12/06/2013 10:49:34 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: forty_years
Some back story here.

Schumer: House vote to extend ban on plastic guns not good enough
upi | Dec. 4, 2013 at 3:23 PM

8 posted on 12/06/2013 10:54:51 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: forty_years

The silver-lining here: It will expose any anti-Second Amendment Congress critters; especially those in Red States and could seal their fate in November 2014.


9 posted on 12/06/2013 10:59:16 AM PST by Din Maker
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To: forty_years

I see it this way. If they pass a law that says I have to turn in guns that were legal when bought, then they will have to come get them, then I’ll be dead and won’t worry about anything anymore.


10 posted on 12/06/2013 11:02:05 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: 1010RD

The GOP pushed it through on a voice vote with the GOP sponsor a Congressman who is retiring.

The NRA did not oppose this bill.


11 posted on 12/06/2013 11:08:33 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: rktman

what is that?

I’ll try it later

Try using https://www.popvox.com/. It seems to work pretty well for getting the messages to your congress critter. Pretty darn current too on pending legislation. Don’t worry, the nsa already has most of our numbers anyway.


12 posted on 12/06/2013 11:09:26 AM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: driftdiver

It’s a very narrow bill out of the House covering one issue. If the Dems load it up it will die. The GOP is covered either way. It’s smart politics. Although, the policy is stupid as we know. Criminals will break the law, but we need those LIVs if we’re going to take Congress and the WH back.

What keeps these politicians voting for these “safety” bills is the fear that you’re attacked because somebody got through who wouldn’t have if only you’d passed a law. It’s nonsense, but it sell in the urban areas. It’s why the NSA has such free reign.


13 posted on 12/06/2013 11:14:32 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: forty_years

- (D-NY) Senator “Corrupt Bastard” Chuckie “.357 Mag” Schumer and wife (a Judge) both “carry” handguns

- But they not for you!


14 posted on 12/06/2013 11:17:37 AM PST by devolve (- "He's (Obama) just 'too talented' to do what 'ordinary people' do." - "All this for a damn fag!" -)
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To: Democrat_media

A site that lets you weigh in on pending legislation. You have to register so that they can send your input to the correct congress critter. Seems to work pretty well as I usually get responses from my reps and sens. Except hairy screed. Once in a blue moon I get a response from that asshat. You can add comments to be forwarded if you like or just a simple yes or no on a particular issue. Very current on pending legislation.


15 posted on 12/06/2013 11:17:56 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: 1010RD

It’s depressing how often capitulation is called good politics.

It’s my dream that we conservatives and freedom lovers could could operate from a position of strength one day.


16 posted on 12/06/2013 11:18:55 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Democrat_media

My Senators are Rubio and Nelson. Rubio will probably oppose this bill, and Nelson will certainly support it.

The Honorable Nelson was offended the last time I sent him a letter asking nicely to support freedom.


17 posted on 12/06/2013 11:20:25 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: forty_years

All they had to do was let a law expire. In other words, all they had to do was do nothing. But no.


18 posted on 12/06/2013 11:23:02 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: forty_years

Here we go again. Just when ammo and guns were starting to become available again.


19 posted on 12/06/2013 11:24:42 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: driftdiver

It’s been a long time. Starting with the “progressive” Republicans like Teddy Roosevelt then on to his crypto-fascist cousin Franklin D. we’ve been on a road to socialism. Keep in mind that every federal dollar has some recipient, some beneficiary who will fight will all their might to keep that money flowing.

That’s why I argue for a thoughtful, reasoned approach to legislation. Small, consistent, incremental change over time. On occasions when you get broad public support then make the knock-out punch on that issue. Otherwise, we need to be the party of sweet reason.

Most of our fiscal problems are easily solved going forward via compound interest. Just reduce and slow the rate of spending, take the GDP hit and chip away. Obama has given us a gift of unsatisfiable debt. Nobody can pay it as things currently are, but given reductions and changes in the system, including pro-commerce tax and regulatory policies that return the US states to a giant free trade zone and you’ll be surprised at how fast things improve.

On the socially conservative side of the equation people making money will let us move that agenda forward. We have to keep our oaths and maintain our character, but time is on our side. When the government school systems completely dissolves as is now already occurring, the indoctrination camps will end. Americans are still pragmatists.


20 posted on 12/06/2013 11:31:10 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: forty_years
America was built on a core foundation of God and guns. Both are essential for liberty.


21 posted on 12/06/2013 11:34:55 AM PST by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: forty_years
They're "protecting" themselves at the expense of everyone else.
22 posted on 12/06/2013 12:01:23 PM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take everything you own to pay for it.)
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To: driftdiver
The NRA did not oppose this bill.

Yeah. Yeah they did oppose this bill.

23 posted on 12/06/2013 12:09:18 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: forty_years

This is what they did with the healthcare bill. The house passed one thing, the senate stripped it and replaced it with something else and then passed that.


24 posted on 12/06/2013 12:10:33 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Dead Corpse

No.

They said this “The NRA strongly opposes ANY expansion of the Undetectable Firearms Act”

which is not the same as opposing the Act itself.


25 posted on 12/06/2013 12:11:10 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

That sucks.

I need about 2k WSR primers, another 1k CCI 300’s, another #8 jug of Accurate 2230, IMR 800x, and a bunch of projectiles for .223, .30-30, and .38/.357.


26 posted on 12/06/2013 12:13:06 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: forty_years

BookMark


27 posted on 12/06/2013 12:34:21 PM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: Dead Corpse
Following is the entire text at your link:

With the expiration of the so-called Undetectable Firearms Act (UFA) rapidly approaching on December 9th, misinformation over this issue and NRA’s position on it has unfortunately reached a heightened level.

We would like to make our position clear. The NRA strongly opposes ANY expansion of the Undetectable Firearms Act, including applying the UFA to magazines, gun parts, or the development of new technologies. The NRA has been working for months to thwart expansion of the UFA by Senator Chuck Schumer and others. We will continue to aggressively fight any expansion of the UFA or any other proposal that would infringe on our Second Amendment rights.

Unlike the Schumer proposal, the vote today in the U.S. House of Representatives on H.R. 3626, sponsored by Rep. Howard Coble, is a simple 10-year reauthorization -- NOT an expansion -- of current law. Other than extending the sunset date, H.R. 3626 makes no changes whatsoever to the underlying act.

Some groups have been circulating misinformation in order to create confusion over today’s House vote. To be clear, Rep. Coble’s bill DOES NOT expand current law in any way, as Sen. Schumer’s proposal would do.

Again, the NRA strongly opposes any expansion of the Undetectable Firearms Act. By simply reauthorizing current law, however, H.R. 3626 does not expand the UFA in any way.

Apparently, NRA has no objection to EXTENDING the idiotic, worthless, and unconstitutional "Undetectable Firearms Act". The NRA does not represent me or my views on this matter. The act should be allowed to sunset; it should NOT be extended. NRA is wrong.

28 posted on 12/06/2013 12:41:35 PM PST by NorthMountain
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To: forty_years

Is there a scheduled mass shooting this weekend?


29 posted on 12/06/2013 12:45:28 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Yo-Yo

It doesn’t have zero Republican votes if it passed the house.


30 posted on 12/06/2013 12:46:19 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL
PopVox is fine, but I've already provided a link to find and contact your senators easily -- directly through the Senate website. I've also provided the easiest method to contact your Senators using the Gun Owners of America tool. I've used their contact forms many times and my messages have always been delivered because I get responses from my reps/senators. GOA is one of our country's oldest and staunchest gun advocacy groups. These links are at the top of the post.
31 posted on 12/06/2013 12:57:37 PM PST by forty_years
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To: GeronL
Is there a scheduled mass shooting this weekend?

Hold on..... (typing).... Yes. Got it right here. Seventeen fatalities, twenty-two injuries, scheduled in a mall in North Carolina, perp will have a Glock. Should begin Saturday morning, unless our handlers can't get the guy riled-up enough tonight. He will -- as is always our custom -- shoot himself.

32 posted on 12/06/2013 1:00:09 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz

That is good comrade


33 posted on 12/06/2013 1:05:46 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Black Agnes

But then Obamacare had to go back to the House, where it was passed by the then Dem majority under Speaker Pelosi.

There’s definitely a ramp up underway. Couple anti gun troupes are hitting the airwaves with new ads in major buys.


34 posted on 12/06/2013 1:07:15 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: NorthMountain

Unlike the Schumer proposal, the vote today in the U.S. House of Representatives on H.R. 3626, sponsored by Rep. Howard Coble, is a simple 10-year reauthorization — NOT an expansion — of current law. Other than extending the sunset date, H.R. 3626 makes no changes whatsoever to the underlying act. “

Come on Texans, How do you let this 82 year old fossil stay in the House? Looks as though he needs a drool cup!


35 posted on 12/06/2013 1:07:32 PM PST by vette6387
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To: tanknetter

Boehner will let it come up for a vote, bet on it. Even if most of the votes it gets are dims.

He’s bought or blackmailed. Maybe both.


36 posted on 12/06/2013 1:12:44 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: forty_years

Does an undetectable gun fire an undetectable bullet? If no, then it’s just a nice looking paperweight.


37 posted on 12/06/2013 1:15:31 PM PST by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: petro45acp

“...The government we deserve?...”

No.

But the one we’re willing to put up with, for sure.


38 posted on 12/06/2013 1:37:47 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: GeronL
It doesn’t have zero Republican votes if it passed the house.

In the SENATE.

39 posted on 12/06/2013 1:45:42 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Yo-Yo

If the Senate changes the House bill and then passes it, would the House have to vote on the bill again, because it was changed by the Senate?


40 posted on 12/06/2013 1:52:21 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (The Second Amendment makes all the other amendments possible)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
If the Senate changes the House bill and then passes it, would the House have to vote on the bill again, because it was changed by the Senate?

If the Senate changes the House bill, the bill will go to conference, and the bill that comes out of conference will be voted on by both houses.

Since the bill passed the house on a simple voice vote, there is no record of who voted 'yea' and who voted 'nay.'

In the Senate, it will take 60 votes to end debate (cloture,) and there will have to be some Republican votes to vote for cloture because unlike when Obamacare was passed, the Democrats don't have 60 members in the Senate.

Then, once debate is ended, those same turn-coat slimy Republican Senators that voted to end debate are then free vote 'nay' to the actual bill, knowing that there are 51 Democratic votes to actually pass the bill. So those RINOs can then say "I'm on the record as voting against the bill" when in fact it was their cloture vote that allowed the bill to pass.

41 posted on 12/06/2013 2:05:15 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: forty_years
But there is an even bigger danger: Chuck Schumer held a press conference the same day to indicate that he will use the House-passed bill as a vehicle to pass even more gun control. We don't expect to know Schumer's bill number or language before he actually offers it, but it will purport to deal with guns from 3-D printers, while actually being much broader.

The same thing Schumer and McCain want to do with immigration reform.

42 posted on 12/06/2013 2:17:46 PM PST by kabar
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To: 1010RD
It’s a very narrow bill out of the House covering one issue. If the Dems load it up it will die.

Says who? There are enough RINOs in the Senate to pass a gun bill. And once it goes to conference, a different bill will result.

43 posted on 12/06/2013 2:19:49 PM PST by kabar
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To: forty_years

Well, yeaahh...We just signed the UN small arms treaty. I almost forgot. Too much aluminum and barium in my head, but at least the global quit warming.


44 posted on 12/06/2013 2:30:31 PM PST by SisterK (would Satan be considered the first shapeshifter?)
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To: forty_years
This is the GOP wanting to appear 'moderate' and 'reasonable' and the Democrats using it against them.

There can be no attempts at compromise with Democrats.

45 posted on 12/06/2013 2:42:36 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: forty_years
The Senate,as currently populated,is a lost cause.At this moment all efforts to ruin Osama Obama’s day must be focused on the House.
46 posted on 12/06/2013 3:07:34 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: edpc; forty_years

And of what material is the barrel of an “undetectable gun” made?


47 posted on 12/06/2013 4:39:19 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: forty_years

“HOUSE SAYS YES TO ONE GUN BILL — Plastic gun ban only firearm legislation to pass since November.”

Completely ignorant of the fact that those donkey-holes on the Hill shouldn’t even be discussing firearms on the floor while In Session, USA Today’s headline of “HOW ON EARTH COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED?!?” the day after the first shots of the Second Civil War ring out, will be doubly infuriating.

Hopefully, I will have passed away before then.


48 posted on 12/06/2013 4:48:44 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: forty_years

Only the blind would not recognize that gun control is being pushed by Russian commies that have infiltrated the USA government.


49 posted on 12/06/2013 4:58:25 PM PST by apoliticalone
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To: GeronL

Touche’!!!


50 posted on 12/06/2013 5:35:42 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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