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High court ends Liberty University lawsuit over health law
Fox News Online ^ | 12/2 | AP

Posted on 12/02/2013 9:12:49 AM PST by TheBigB

Edited on 12/02/2013 9:14:42 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

The Supreme Court on Monday refused to hear a challenge to ObamaCare brought by a Virginia-based Christian university, ending for now one of the biggest remaining legal fights against the health care law.

The justices, in turning away the lawsuit from Liberty University and leaving in place a federal appeals court ruling dismissing it, did not comment on their decision. The decision comes less than a week after the high court agreed to hear a challenge from Hobby Lobby and one other company to the law's so-called contraception mandate -- the requirement on most employers to provide access to contraceptive coverage.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; bhoscotus; christianschools; contraceptionmandate; hobbylobby; lawsuit; libertyu; libertyuniversity; obamacare; religiousfreedom; scotus
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1 posted on 12/02/2013 9:12:49 AM PST by TheBigB
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To: TheBigB

uh oh ...


2 posted on 12/02/2013 9:15:54 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: TheBigB
I'm not surprised that would tyrants are trying to take over this nation from the inside.

What stuns me is how no one ANYWHERE at ANY LEVEL is trying to stop them.
3 posted on 12/02/2013 9:16:05 AM PST by Tzimisce
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To: TheBigB

A. Kennedy must have struck again.


4 posted on 12/02/2013 9:16:33 AM PST by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs are flirting with Christie, but it's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: TheBigB

Maybe the American people truly believe in tyranny. Just so long as they have their football, pizza, and beer


5 posted on 12/02/2013 9:17:23 AM PST by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs are flirting with Christie, but it's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: TheBigB
From the article: "The university had mounted a major challenge to the law, going after the contraception mandate but also the requirement on employers to provide coverage."

Guess SCOTUS sees the challenge on contraception to be a duplicate of the Hobby Lobby case, but the forced employer coverage provision is now 'legal', it would seem.

6 posted on 12/02/2013 9:18:05 AM PST by alancarp
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To: TheBigB
The Supreme Court on Monday refused to hear a challenge to ObamaCare brought by a Virginia-based Christian university, ending for now one of the biggest remaining legal fights against the health care law.

Ping for later

7 posted on 12/02/2013 9:18:22 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: TheBigB

Can I assume Roberts was the deciding justice on this?


8 posted on 12/02/2013 9:19:13 AM PST by rawhide
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To: TheBigB

The Supreme Court is playing with fire on this one. They well could cause a quiet revolution with the wrong decision here. What if people decide that they are simply not going to provide free birth control and abortion pills? What can the government do if a massive resistance arises?


9 posted on 12/02/2013 9:20:21 AM PST by maxwellsmart_agent (F)
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To: Theodore R.

Why not Roberts again?


10 posted on 12/02/2013 9:20:33 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

There should be mass resistance to this crap


11 posted on 12/02/2013 9:21:34 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Theodore R.

Empty Belly... full Mind

Full Belly... Empty Mind....

It is the cycle of History...


12 posted on 12/02/2013 9:22:25 AM PST by GraceG
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To: alancarp

The Roberts’ case earlier was about individuals being forced to buy insurance,
so why would the employer requirement not be ruled in the same way as that abortion of a ruling?


13 posted on 12/02/2013 9:22:50 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: TheBigB

This means they could not even get 4 Justices to agree to hear the case; assume they got three; 6 either said no or abstained. Not good...not good at all.


14 posted on 12/02/2013 9:24:13 AM PST by dan on the right
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To: 5thGenTexan

The sodomites have taken over the country. Slipped in the back door when we weren't looking.

15 posted on 12/02/2013 9:24:26 AM PST by Fido969
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To: maxwellsmart_agent
What can the government do if a massive resistance arises?

Like your thinking and would support massive resistance while this government levies fines, sends out their IRS agents to harass and shutters businesses. For this would be the rulers response (imho). The divide has been crossed and nobody (including myself) relishes where our nation is headed.

16 posted on 12/02/2013 9:26:11 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: MrB
Ignoring for just a minute the illogic of the Supreme Court, there's actually a bunch of reasons why employers shouldn't have to be forced into offering coverage (which I'm sure we're aware of, but there's still cause to repeat this):

1. Companies aren't the beneficiary of the purchase. They are effectively forced to buy something they don't use. What's more, they don't have much discretion on the converage options to purchase, which will raise rates way high in this one-size-fits-all new world order.
2. Even if you somehow create a linguistic monster to call THIS a tax, it truly isn't since it doesn't apply to every companies. It doesn't even apply to most companies.
3. This creates a forced employee benefit. It used to be simply a perk of some jobs. Now it's a mandate.
4. I don't recall this power being called out in the Constitution (oh snap - we threw that out years ago).

18 posted on 12/02/2013 9:42:28 AM PST by alancarp
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To: TheBigB

Garbage. Garbage justice.

Freedom of religion? The federal government doesn’t give a damn.


19 posted on 12/02/2013 9:52:11 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Theodore R.

And welfare, foodstamps, Medicaid, government housing, etc.


20 posted on 12/02/2013 9:52:25 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Tzimisce
What stuns me is how no one ANYWHERE at ANY LEVEL is trying to stop them.

Uh... the people who filed the lawsuit and millions of others tried to stop them.

They just don't have the support of any of the Parties in charge.

21 posted on 12/02/2013 9:53:50 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: TheBigB

The AIA requires that if the law imposes a tax, the tax must first be paid before the suit can be filed, which in this case would have been after 2014. However, Liberty Counsel petitioned the U.S. Supreme Court, and the first of the three days of oral arguments dealt with their case, Liberty University v. Geithner.


22 posted on 12/02/2013 9:54:13 AM PST by wmap
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To: TheBigB

it is up to Congress to act to repeal. If the Senate won’t take it up, the house should keep passing bills, one after another to make the public understand the importance of the 2014 election and a veto proof Congress.


23 posted on 12/02/2013 9:55:42 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Tzimisce
"What stuns me is how no one ANYWHERE at ANY LEVEL is trying to stop them."

Ted Cruz and a smattering of other Patriots in Government - not nearly enough.
It just makes it harder to know if we have one or two more elections left before it's too late (or none)....

24 posted on 12/02/2013 9:56:35 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: dan on the right

This is the tactic of the Left; overwhelm the system with so many of their Marxist programs at one time that at least a few of them are bound to stick just by virtue of the weight of the case load being so unmanageable.

And once one sticks, they use it as a foothold for the next attack against freedom.


25 posted on 12/02/2013 9:58:07 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: TheBigB

Traitors.


26 posted on 12/02/2013 9:59:17 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: TheBigB

Why take Hobby Lobby and not this one? Hobby Lobby is a probably easier for them to rule on and say suck it up Hobby Lobby.

But Liberty being a Christian University was tougher for them to explain their reasoning so just avoid it.


27 posted on 12/02/2013 10:01:21 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: TheBigB

Could it be that the NWO puppet in the WH has the mob’s enforcers delivering messages (threats) to any and all who appose their agenda? Justice Roberts apparently got his message a couple of years ago.


28 posted on 12/02/2013 10:01:31 AM PST by drypowder
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To: TheBigB

Didn’t the appeals court rule in favor of hobby lobby? If so it’s over...they will rule against them no doubt.


29 posted on 12/02/2013 10:03:06 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Theodore R.

And flat screen televisions.


30 posted on 12/02/2013 10:04:48 AM PST by Bridesheadfan
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To: Theodore R.

Well the tyrants are going after football in a BIG way now.


31 posted on 12/02/2013 10:07:58 AM PST by golas1964
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To: for-q-clinton

my prediction 5-4 against Hobby Lobby.


32 posted on 12/02/2013 10:08:02 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: TheBigB

This does not seem so dire to me. They agreed to hear the case that dealt with the conscience issue alone. They can’t be expected to judge on the entire law all over again.

The argument is going to be whether the first amendment covers this kind of situation. Since we already have Citizens United, it could turn out OK.

Also, since it is a conscience issue, people are going to obey their conscience, so even if the Court looks at it politically, as they have been known to do, it would not be wise to rule against Hobby Lobby. For Hobby Lobby’s sake, and the sake of all the other corporations that are in this situation (there were over 60 lawsuits started on this issue), and for our precious rights, I am asking for a good outcome on this.


33 posted on 12/02/2013 10:09:50 AM PST by firebrand
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To: TheBigB

34 posted on 12/02/2013 10:11:02 AM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: firebrand

Prayers said.


35 posted on 12/02/2013 10:12:12 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: for-q-clinton

There were two cases that reached the district court level, and the decisions varied, so SCOTUS steps in.


36 posted on 12/02/2013 10:12:24 AM PST by firebrand
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To: Theodore R.

How in the world Kennedy, Mr Libertarian individual rights, can’t see that a Christian University has a faith to practice and uphold is totally beyond me.

It’s a clear 1st amendment violation to require such an institution to go against the religion that they are a fundamental PART of, no less than a church building.

This is explained only by vehement anti-Christian sentiment.


37 posted on 12/02/2013 10:14:49 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Theodore R.
Maybe the American people truly believe in tyranny. Just so long as they have their football, pizza, and beer

But of course! Like this Jabba the Hut:

Shameless Load Boasts On-Air: She Lives GREAT on Welfare, 'Working is Stupid'- 'Taxpayers are Fools'

A recent caller to an Austin radio talk show ('Lucy', 32 y.o., Riverside, TX) -just one of the record 91.5M Americans who've left the US work force- bragged to the host that both she AND her husband 'don't see the need' for working these days... even though they have three young daughters. She said she prefers to live on welfare and 'benefits' so she can 'visit friends and smoke weed all day'...


38 posted on 12/02/2013 10:15:37 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: xzins
is simply the next step ... homo marriage forced upon the Church or the doors will be shuttered ... simply the next step (imho). The divide has been crossed (imho).
39 posted on 12/02/2013 10:17:08 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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Each of us runs on fumes and we run to each other ... I Run To You ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEqYsZaaeBI


40 posted on 12/02/2013 10:21:58 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Psalm 73
It just makes it harder to know if we have one or two more elections left before it's too late (or none)….

Go with NONE. We saw our last true honest national elections back in 2008. Cook County went national - the Machine and the Party now rules us.

Elections will simply be a charade, a placebo to placate the masses into thinking they actually have a choice in their rulers.

We don't anymore.

We have no recourse left us within civil means. That's simple fact.

41 posted on 12/02/2013 10:27:23 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

Justice Roberts has rendered his opinion. Now let him enforce it.


42 posted on 12/02/2013 10:30:37 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: TheBigB

Perhaps just as well.

The last time they took a case associated with Rev. Falwell the result was a virtual license to get as loud and lewd as you wanna be, provided it is clearly labeled a “parody” first.


43 posted on 12/02/2013 10:33:27 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TheBigB

This will result in more businesses discontinuing health coverage for employees.


44 posted on 12/02/2013 10:37:07 AM PST by lurk
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To: Tzimisce

I’m trying to stop them. I’m praying that God will stop them. But I know what you mean and feel the same frustration.


45 posted on 12/02/2013 10:38:17 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: for-q-clinton

Maybe that is the answer, BECAUSE they are taking Hobby Lobby’s, it would be a duplication.

The question is shy they aren’t taking Liberty U’s.


46 posted on 12/02/2013 10:39:03 AM PST by Baldwin77
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To: no-to-illegals

LEXINGTON AND CONCORD


47 posted on 12/02/2013 10:44:29 AM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: INVAR
(imho) INVAR ... President Reagan's Presidency was probably the brief rest between the Kennedy Assassination and present day or perhaps there was one more and his name was Nixon. Everything since and perhaps including the removal of Nixon was preplanned. (imho) Americans are simply on the tail end of the Tiger or Dragon waiting for the next big shake. Is easy to see the Tiger or Dragon is working openly to shake off the last vestige of Freedom and the rulers, desiring their payola, are more than happy to comply while our Pravda shouts out their well paid ... All is Well.
48 posted on 12/02/2013 10:45:56 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: ealgeone

you forget ... homeland security bought up all the ammo.


49 posted on 12/02/2013 10:46:46 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: RedMDer


50 posted on 12/02/2013 10:47:15 AM PST by drpix
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