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This Massive Robot Could Soon Join Marines on the Battlefield
Defense One ^ | November 21, 2013 | Alexis Madrigal

Posted on 11/24/2013 7:22:48 AM PST by Star Traveler

The future doesn't always arrive with a gasp and a boom like Skynet inTerminator. No, sometimes it's more like Office Space.

At least that's the idea I get watching this video of the Marines' testing the Legged Squad Support System. DARPA built the LS3 to act as an autonomous pack horse that "can carry 400 lbs of a squad’s load, follow squad members through rugged terrain and interact with troops in a natural way, similar to a trained animal and its handler."

And yet, in the hands of real Marines, it sounds like they're testing a new network printer out, or maybe putting the office fob system through its paces.

(Excerpt) Read more at defenseone.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; darpa; ls3; marines; robots; skynet
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Is "Skynet" on its way? ... :-) ...
1 posted on 11/24/2013 7:22:48 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler
Is it Three Laws Safe?

Or will it go Cylon on our Marines?

2 posted on 11/24/2013 7:23:56 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Star Traveler

3 posted on 11/24/2013 7:26:42 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Star Traveler; TADSLOS
It has nothing on Liberty Prime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=298Cw3_qGwE


4 posted on 11/24/2013 7:26:50 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: KC_Lion

I wonder what the Robot-to-mule cost ratio is?


5 posted on 11/24/2013 7:27:50 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: JoeProBono

Seems to me that horses or mules might make more sense in some circumstances.


6 posted on 11/24/2013 7:29:54 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Star Traveler

Maybe they can program it to sing out marching Jodies while on the move.


7 posted on 11/24/2013 7:29:54 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Gaffer

Mules are robust - yes they smell but are much quieter than those headless robots. And if you get stuck you can eat them. Those robots are yukky.


8 posted on 11/24/2013 7:31:18 AM PST by corkoman
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To: JoeProBono

And what does it do when there is a mud hole? Sink!


9 posted on 11/24/2013 7:31:27 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Tastes like Heaven, Burns like Hell! Mmmmmm. What is it?)
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To: Lurker

Yeah, like in the current circumstance where the US is broke and can’t afford a 2 million dollar device to do a job 10% better than a $20 mule. :)


10 posted on 11/24/2013 7:31:48 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: KC_Lion
Cylons aren't all "bad".
11 posted on 11/24/2013 7:32:57 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Star Traveler

until they learn to make these types of things silent — no combat unit is going to want one along.


12 posted on 11/24/2013 7:33:11 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Star Traveler
Two key things mentioned in the video are using these to evacuate casualties, leaving, "more Marines in the fight," and taking weight off the backs of Marines.

My questions...how many Marines will be taken out of the fight to maintain and service these, and who's going to pack and resupply the fuel? It looks like it has a gasoline engine, and the walking motion has to be far less fuel efficient than wheels...

...once you add in the logistics chain for fuel, spare parts, and maintenance, I question how much of a gain this really would be over an actual pack mule that can pretty much graze its own fuel in many operating environments.

13 posted on 11/24/2013 7:33:50 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: EEGator

Marvelous structure...


14 posted on 11/24/2013 7:34:33 AM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: EEGator

Oh, that one was bad. Very bad.....in a very good sort of way.


15 posted on 11/24/2013 7:34:34 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: corkoman

............would have got a lot more Nam Vets killed because patrols demanded absolute silence, in some cases hand signals. Plus, it could not have made it through the jungles.

I’n Afghanistan too, I think “silence” and “stealth” are much in demand. I’m no expert. Maybe we have a vet with some combat experience that is?


16 posted on 11/24/2013 7:35:38 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: KC_Lion; Revolting cat!
Flying cars and robuts. Someday. Maybe.


17 posted on 11/24/2013 7:36:39 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: EEGator; nascarnation
:)


18 posted on 11/24/2013 7:37:10 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: a fool in paradise

I really have to LOL at the locations of the tear gas outlets and the engine exhaust....


19 posted on 11/24/2013 7:38:37 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: a fool in paradise
I call it... A "Securitrion"


20 posted on 11/24/2013 7:39:02 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Star Traveler

You are all forgetting the most important questions.

What’s their carbon footprint?

Are they “green”? (I don’t mean olive drab, either.)

Can they use fryer grease to operate?

Were any spotted owls or darter snails killed in the construction of these things.

Have they “chosen” a gender for themselves?

Is there any chance they will become “self-aware” and, heaven forbid, begin having religious stirrings deep within?

Are they eligible for family or maternity leave?

Will they retire and automatically become a “person of interest” to the Overlords?


21 posted on 11/24/2013 7:40:09 AM PST by moovova
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To: Gaffer

Exactly my thought.

Why spend a couple hundred dollars on a real mule when the government can spend a million for a fake mule?


22 posted on 11/24/2013 7:41:04 AM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: corkoman

I’d go with mules as well.

My grandfather used mules to pull logs for his mills.
I’m used to them and they are easy to work.

That robot thing is pretty creepy!


23 posted on 11/24/2013 7:41:24 AM PST by Bobalu (Ted Cruz was right and his star now shines bright)
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To: Star Traveler
The military had something very similar to this as recently as WWII. They were called mules. Not always user friendly, but much lower tech and a damn sight cheaper, I daresay. More complicated does not automatically equal better. I am reminded of the differences between the American and Soviet approaches to writing implements used aboard spaceships. The Americans spent $2 million + in coming up with an ink pen that would write in extremes of heat and cold and would still write in zero gee. The Soviets used a pencil.

CC

24 posted on 11/24/2013 7:41:53 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: KC_Lion

how about a name?


25 posted on 11/24/2013 7:43:03 AM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: Joe 6-pack
With Obama's Brave New Military, 10% of all robot soldiers will have to be gay.


26 posted on 11/24/2013 7:44:16 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: corkoman

I remember seeing movies of Merrill’s Marauders trekking through the jungles, swamps and over mountains in Burma.

The things the mules and men had to contend with would short out that robot mule in a heartbeat.

I think a big problem with these things is going to be noise.


27 posted on 11/24/2013 7:44:53 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: School of Rational Thought
The military won't have to worry about PETA lawsuits if they use robot pack mules.

Just sayin'.

28 posted on 11/24/2013 7:45:31 AM PST by Bratch
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To: KC_Lion

The increased dependence on electronics in warfare will mean that forces reliant on these will make themselves vulnerable to electronic hijack by competent militaries like that of China’s, turning the machines into destroying its own side.


29 posted on 11/24/2013 7:46:02 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: School of Rational Thought
That is Tricia Helfer AKA Number 6 form Battlestar Galactica

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tricia_Helfer

Or if you prefer her OTHER Robot form that is fine too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7aU0sLAcs8


30 posted on 11/24/2013 7:47:00 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: James C. Bennett
Yep, so they are not Three Laws Safe.

China little Electronic Back Door so to speak.

31 posted on 11/24/2013 7:48:09 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Star Traveler

So...this solves the problem of women in combat not having enough physical strength?


32 posted on 11/24/2013 7:51:16 AM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: James C. Bennett

Yep, Kenyan is already outfitting one to escape to Chineeeese, with full documentation on chip.


33 posted on 11/24/2013 8:00:24 AM PST by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: KC_Lion

She makes me happy. :)


34 posted on 11/24/2013 8:01:43 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Star Traveler

One word comes to mind..

PANZERFAUST!


35 posted on 11/24/2013 8:11:22 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: BenLurkin

Interesting how they edited the sound to emphasize the leaves crunching in the woods. I bet nobody there could hear anything but the sound of the motor exhaust. These things are loud as hell. They better be working on a serious muffler system for this thing to be of any practical use.


36 posted on 11/24/2013 8:12:25 AM PST by servo1969
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To: Star Traveler
Video of a prototype. (Hilarious!)
37 posted on 11/24/2013 8:15:59 AM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: JoeProBono

Smaal Star Wars walkers. The Ewoks could take these down with a single slingshot.


38 posted on 11/24/2013 8:24:45 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: EEGator

That robot can be in my squad any day she wants. I doubt we would get much work done though. :=D


39 posted on 11/24/2013 8:25:01 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: Star Traveler

in an unexpected discovery, enemy troops are disabled for at least 5 minutes due to laughter.


40 posted on 11/24/2013 8:26:39 AM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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To: Star Traveler

Evolution of the “Big Dog” robot. It’s a lot more agile than most here think, probably equivalent to a pack mule at least. Go back and look at the footage of Big Dog dealing with ice and rubble.

Also, although it’s loud (for now), and needs gas (more expensive than fodder), it does have several advantages over mules:

It can be armored, and is less likely to be injured (and can be repaired onsite if it is).

It will not be frightened by gunfire.

It can operate unhindered in an NBC environment.

It can run on ordinary fuel which can be siphoned from other military vehicles in a pinch, and so does not need a separate supply chain.

It will never get tired; as long as it has gas it will keep moving.

In an emergency, it can navigate autonomously, such as evacuating a casualty. To go even further, in that capacity it can be equipped to transmit vitals to the waiting medics so they can treat/triage more effectively.

It can be ordered into a fire zone, either as a distraction or a shield, if need be.


41 posted on 11/24/2013 8:26:59 AM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Engine exhaust is methane.


42 posted on 11/24/2013 8:27:07 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: Star Traveler

Looks like a single well-placed AK round could disable this REALLY expensive toy.


43 posted on 11/24/2013 8:27:24 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: NTHockey

44 posted on 11/24/2013 8:30:54 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Star Traveler
Back in my day these were Marine mules:

 photo MarineMules_zps4aca63fc.jpg

45 posted on 11/24/2013 8:37:42 AM PST by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: Star Traveler

It will be assigned to carry gear for Marines who weigh less than 125 lbs.


46 posted on 11/24/2013 8:38:36 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: Star Traveler

I agree with the posts on this thread that this is a noisy, expensive, logistical headache of a nightmare. Why don’t they mount a red rotating beacon on the thing atop a 20’ mast? That way even the deaf know it’s coming.

Just so stupid, why on God’s earth would a premier fighting force want a noise maker like this? Whatever is pushing this idiocy is not related to common sense.

When the VC wanted to move heavy supplies, I believe they were loaded on bicycles and pushed. No noise, and easier than carrying.

And like others mentions, mules, noiseless, easy to feed, and can be eaten.


47 posted on 11/24/2013 8:39:42 AM PST by redfreedom (All it takes for evil to win is for good people to do nothing - that's how the left took over.)
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To: Star Traveler

48 posted on 11/24/2013 8:43:23 AM PST by Evil Slayer ((Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war....))
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To: SC_Pete

Too late. That position is already delegated. Starting from every E-1 through at least E-3, we have been doing that for decades. The truly sad part is, the females just take it as a given, and you are viewed as an arse’ole if you try to make any noise about it.


49 posted on 11/24/2013 8:45:36 AM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: 3Fingas

That depends on how you define work.

W = F * d [work = force times distance]

I’ll let you figure out how to use force and distance with her...


50 posted on 11/24/2013 8:50:59 AM PST by EEGator
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