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The Fracking Fight Goes Way Left
Townhall.com ^ | November 17, 2013 | Marita Noon

Posted on 11/17/2013 10:59:43 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 11/17/2013 10:59:43 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

We must save Mother Earth! You did not get the memo?

/s


2 posted on 11/17/2013 11:12:20 AM PST by hadaclueonce (dont worry about Mexico, put the fence around kalifornia.)
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To: Kaslin

People are really getting fracking crazy out there.


3 posted on 11/17/2013 11:13:17 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Kaslin

Compare.
Mora-poor.
Farmington NM- Rich.
Roswell-Rich
Carlsbad-Rich.
Guymon OK rich
Woodward OK-Rich.
All because of fracking and gas extraction.

Central Oklahoma is now going gangbusters because of oil drilling.

Now compare Van Buren county Arkansas -Poor, but not any more now that gas extraction is taking place.

Of course, when the boom is over, things may change as I’ve seen happen many times.

Mora will still be poor, but the other areas will also be poor for those who don’t have mineral rights.


4 posted on 11/17/2013 11:16:50 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Kaslin

The efficacity of an engineering solution has never been determined by popular vote. Either the system works, or it does not. When the system does not work, or is ineffective, then the shortcomings are determined and overcome.

Prohibiting any course of action altogether, especially on flimsy arguments against it, is denial of the ingenuity of the human mind. All the Luddites that railed against the introduction of weaving machinery for cloth, were proved to be obstacles in the growth of prosperity through industrial development. Ned Ludd, a 18th century Leicestershire workman who destroyed a knitting frame, was the spiritual leader of a widespread movement among the guilds of manual workers, who wrongly though their livelihoods were being destroyed by the new technology.


5 posted on 11/17/2013 11:24:44 AM PST by alloysteel (Men may not always be capable of evil, but they are always capable of incompetence.)
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To: Kaslin

blah blah blah dispite the fact that fracs have never polluted anything, they are bad.
ethanol production is good. nevermind it takes a gallon and a half of gas to produce one gallon of ethanol, nevermind that our ground water is being polluted with chemical fertilizers.


6 posted on 11/17/2013 11:24:58 AM PST by South Dakota (shut up and build a bakken pipe line)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Even those with no mineral rights will get jobs in the oil fields the ancillary industries and other industries that grow around a booming economy. This is what the Leftist morons refuse to understand. The wealthy, old or new, do not put their money under the mattress. They invest it, they spend it and they use it all over the economy and that generates even more income and wealth for the broader society.

The fact that my neighbor becomes wealthy has no negative effect on my circumstances, as a matter of fact, it probably only helps as said neighbor may spend his money on a business or service I provide or support a charity that I believe in.

7 posted on 11/17/2013 11:30:21 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Kaslin

LOL, How much Fracking do they do in Towns ? LOL


8 posted on 11/17/2013 11:34:44 AM PST by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: Kaslin
Minds of mush.
I bet those liberal collage yoots don't even give it a 2nd thought about where the fuel comes from for their eco cars or where the plastics come from for their I phones.
9 posted on 11/17/2013 11:37:37 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: alloysteel
How about Thomas Edison's deliberate use of animals of proving that the AC current was some how inherently dangerous to humans ?
However cooler minds prevealed and now we enjoy the use of the AC current.
10 posted on 11/17/2013 11:40:46 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: South Dakota
Never mind also that it takes away from human’s feed stock in which that is their agenda anyway.... to starve the sheeple.
11 posted on 11/17/2013 11:42:47 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

never mind that ethanol eats fuel lines, you need to hire people to mow your yard. They are professionals.


12 posted on 11/17/2013 11:54:22 AM PST by hadaclueonce (dont worry about Mexico, put the fence around kalifornia.)
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To: Kaslin

We older ones have seen this before. Back in the 70’s with the anti-nuclear power ‘Clamshell Alliance’ types (and Hollywood of course with The China Syndrome).


13 posted on 11/17/2013 12:10:50 PM PST by VR-21 (Next Stop, Willoughby.)
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To: hadaclueonce

never mind that I get 20% less mpg with an ethanol blend because no matter how much you wish it were so, ethanol does not have the energy density of octane.


14 posted on 11/17/2013 12:12:46 PM PST by seowulf (Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum. Cogito.---Ambrose Bierce)
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To: American Constitutionalist

The yoots have not got the memo that enviro nazi’s want to eliminate 95% of the human population.


15 posted on 11/17/2013 12:23:39 PM PST by dancusa (Molon Labe)
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To: seowulf
never mind that I get 20% less mpg with an ethanol blend because no matter how much you wish it were so, ethanol does not have the energy density of octane.

A blend of 90% gasoline and 10% ethanol has more than 95% as much energy as pure gasoline, and yet it seems that the reduction in fuel economy is far more severe than caloric content would suggest. I can imagine a variety of factors which could cause a vehicle to travel less far on 1oz of ethanol mixed with 9oz of gasoline than it would travel on 9oz of gasoline mixed with nothing, but I don't know to what extent such factors apply. It would be interesting to know what such research would show, though given its extreme political-incorrectness I'm not sure who would conduct it. Certainly it shouldn't be difficult to have some test subjects in a double-blind test receive all their gasoline for some period of time from the entity running the test, and measure how the fuel economy when using pure gasoline compares to the fuel economy when using ethanol blend.

16 posted on 11/17/2013 12:26:27 PM PST by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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I would suspect that some of the loss in mileage is because the engine is not optimized to the blend.

The corrosivity of ethanol is probably also a factor, making it necessary to perform regular maintenance more frequently. If that’s not done, mileage goes down.


17 posted on 11/17/2013 12:37:39 PM PST by seowulf (Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum. Cogito.---Ambrose Bierce)
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To: supercat

Ethanol is diluted gasoline, so it means I have to buy more of it than plain old gasoline.
The feds and states tax fuel consumption at the pump “by the gallon”.
Do you wonder where their vested interest lies?


18 posted on 11/17/2013 12:39:04 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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Thanks Kaslin.


19 posted on 11/17/2013 1:21:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: seowulf

Yep. Me too. I dropped from 20 mpg to 17. Thanks Big government. I ‘d go protest, but I have to go to work!


20 posted on 11/17/2013 1:32:41 PM PST by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (Where are we going from here?)
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